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 Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-22 20:49:53
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Sad to think... In the time they've been "working" on FFXI, I could have finished lvling my WHM to 49 and be back to lvling THF now...
Psh /whm is so yesterday now that /sch gets pretty much all that minus the cool jas and um teles I guess. Or /rdm for converts and ***
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:50:23
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
It's not the "configuring" that takes time, it's merging the data. You need to snapshot the old servers after they come down (which likely takes hours), transfer the data to the new ones, (likely hours more, given how much there is), and then merge all the data back together again, likely one by one to make sure you don't have collisions in names, etc.

Then you have to run through the entire combined set again for verification, comparing the result with the two original sums to make sure you aren't missing anything, probably wipe a bunch of caches, and only then bring things up. The last thing you want is to come back up from the merge and have Little Johnny putting in GM pages saying he lost his Excalibur.

If at any point you notice a discrepancy, you have to stop the presses and start over. And you have to do this for each server you're merging. 12 hours is actually pretty impressive, considering.

Wish that didn't make so much sense. >< lol.[/quote]


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By Garuda.Feifongwong 2010-03-22 20:51:01
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Gilgamesh.Xarchangel said:
they should open the servers that are not merging...


There are other updates being made too... not just a server merge lol
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 Lakshmi.Jaerik
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-03-22 20:52:15
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Garuda.Feifongwong said:
Gilgamesh.Xarchangel said:
they should open the servers that are not merging...


There are other updates being made too... not just a server merge lol

They probably can't. I imagine the front-end of the login system which routes people to the appropriate server cannot be globally re-enabled until the merge is complete.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:52:40
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Garuda.Feifongwong said:
Gilgamesh.Xarchangel said:
they should open the servers that are not merging...


There are other updates being made too... not just a server merge lol

But you'd think ours would be done hours earlier ya?
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:53:11
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Garuda.Feifongwong said:
Gilgamesh.Xarchangel said:
they should open the servers that are not merging...


There are other updates being made too... not just a server merge lol

They probably can't. I imagine the front-end of the login system which routes people to the appropriate server cannot be globally re-enabled until the merge is complete.

He looks at things Logically, which isnt in our nature.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-03-22 20:54:48
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Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
He looks at things Logically, which isnt in our nature.

I do this stuff for a living, guys. =)
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:55:28
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
He looks at things Logically, which isnt in our nature.

I do this stuff for a living, guys. =)

If it paid me i would to without a doubt
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-03-22 20:55:58
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yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-03-22 20:56:01
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
He looks at things Logically, which isnt in our nature.

I do this stuff for a living, guys. =)

Don't lie to us, all you do is work out and surf all day!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-22 20:56:21
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Hades.Stefanos said:
/sigh.

Well wherever you are Nightfyre, you called it.
Heh. Was an easy bet to make, updates often run long and with as much as they have to do (see Jaerik's post) something would inevitably take longer than expected. I would have been truly impressed if they got everything done in just 12 hours.

Now who's gonna give me my 5k?!?
Garuda.Feifongwong said:
There are other updates being made too... not just a server merge lol
Yeah... That portion of the update was finished rather early, as evidenced by the speed with which the .datmining threads got started. Jaerik inb4'd me again on the likely reason why those not affected by the merge can't log in.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-03-22 20:56:45
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.

i sry i go hometiem nowz (. . ); kbye

Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said:
Don't lie to us, all you do is work out and surf all day!

Busted.
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By Hades.Neheyiama 2010-03-22 20:57:45
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apparently my friend is playing irght now with ssed
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:58:01
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Sad to think... In the time they've been "working" on FFXI, I could have finished lvling my WHM to 49 and be back to lvling THF now...
Psh /whm is so yesterday now that /sch gets pretty much all that minus the cool jas and um teles I guess. Or /rdm for converts and ***

I prefer /WHM when soloing as RDM.

We regret to inform you that Kojo's sub job levelup time will be extended from March 23 2010, to a to be announced date.


[Affected Jobs]
White Mage/Ninja/Dancer/Scholar

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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:58:07
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.

i sry i go hometiem nowz (. . ); kbye

Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said:
Don't lie to us, all you do is work out and surf all day!

Busted.

He has red lines and font, all he needs is glow-y siggy and he's a GM!
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:59:39
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.

"Now, now, Skeeter, just calm down."
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 21:00:57
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.

"Now, now, Skeeter, just calm down."
Youz BAND!

Er... BANNED!
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 21:02:21
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Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.
"Now, now, Skeeter, just calm down."
Youz BAND! Er... BANNED!

O.O
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By Phoenix.Jile 2010-03-22 21:03:12
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Does SE have to fail at literally EVERYTHING they go to do?

^ this
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 21:03:17
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Always fun to see cross server forum chats go so well...
Carbuncleroxwut?
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By Hades.Neheyiama 2010-03-22 21:03:38
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OiNKKK
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-22 21:03:55
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Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.

"Now, now, Skeeter, just calm down."
Youz BAND!

Er... BANNED!
I is band?

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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 21:04:43
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
yer kind aint wuntd hur, boi.
"Now, now, Skeeter, just calm down."
Youz BAND! Er... BANNED!
I is band?
Lol.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 21:06:10
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Rock band Value pack
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By Hades.Neheyiama 2010-03-22 21:07:29
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Is the extension over yettttttttttt
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 21:08:06
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Hades.Neheyiama said:
Is the extension over yettttttttttt

NO!
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 21:08:54
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3hrs left
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By Hades.Neheyiama 2010-03-22 21:09:25
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Hades.Neheyiama said:
Is the extension over yettttttttttt

NO!
Is it over nowwwwwwww
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By Rojo 2010-03-22 21:09:30
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Please, for the love of everything anyone has ever held dear, the US is on Daylight Savings time now, ergo xDT.

Eastern Daylight Time. - EDT
Central Daylight Time. - CDT
Mountain Daylight Time. - MDT
Pacific Daylight Time. - PDT

That covers the continental US time zones from east (where that big ball of light comes up) to the west (where it goes down) and they are each 1 successive hour apart.

22:00 would be the 22nd hour of a day. A 'day' begins at midnight, right? Right. You've stared at the game clock and noticed that the day changes one game minute after 23:59 right? Right. Same thing. 24-hour time has no AM or PM. If you see a time referenced as anything more than 12 hours, subtract 12 from it and that's your time in Post Meridiem or PM. Otherwise it's AM.

So if you REALLY want to know what time maintenance will now end in CST, even though we're not on Standard Time right now, that would be 11pm or 23:00 CST.

It's not that damned difficult. /sigh


On the server front, I can only assume character data is stored in some form of SQL environment which would take a good amount of time to transfer millions upon millions of rows of character data from one database to another. Not only would new rows be added to a destination DB, but name checks would have to flag new additions if there's a conflict. While that process would be completely automated in a lengthy SQL script, it would still take hours to run with the sheer amount of data I'd expect. One hiccup and the script borks, the whole thing gets to be re-run. But this is why they stopped character transfers early, so they could test the server merges with a consistent data set.

Still, I'd love just 10 minutes with the system to see how its structured... maybe 10 more minutes to make a few small modifications.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 21:11:56
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Playing FFXI made me memorize Time zones, if it wasn't for FFXI i wouldnt know wtf EST/CST/MDT was....

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