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 Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:30:58
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Gilgamesh.Xarchangel said:
they should open the servers that are not merging...

Agreed.
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By Unicorn.Nymphadora 2010-03-22 20:31:35
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Gilgamesh.Xarchangel said:
they should open the servers that are not merging...

Agreed.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:32:11
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Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
I'm ready to go after some of this new stuff. SE fail. And you know they knew weeks ago how many characters they were gonna have to transfer and whatnot. ; ;

They're amazing how Fast they can do what they do in a short amount of time. It took me days to config a simple server for a simple game...

SE aint no joke...
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:34:13
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Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
I'm ready to go after some of this new stuff. SE fail. And you know they knew weeks ago how many characters they were gonna have to transfer and whatnot. ; ;
They're amazing how Fast they can do what they do in a short amount of time. It took me days to config a simple server for a simple game... SE aint no joke...

You cofigured a server YOURSELF? SE has an entire crew. I give you more credit.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:34:51
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
I'm ready to go after some of this new stuff. SE fail. And you know they knew weeks ago how many characters they were gonna have to transfer and whatnot. ; ;
They're amazing how Fast they can do what they do in a short amount of time. It took me days to config a simple server for a simple game... SE aint no joke...

You cofigured a server YOURSELF? SE has an entire crew. I give you more credit.

It wasn't FFXI server lol

Maple story, it's a trillion times easier. Still takes a bit tho.
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By Pandemonium.Liquidz 2010-03-22 20:35:24
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Phoenix.Kojo said:

I'm gonna bet they extend it again.

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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:36:03
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Hope you guys dont need to register anything


The registration server maintenance which was originally scheduled to occur today from 20:00 to 21:00 (PDT) has been changed to the following time due to the FINAL FANTASY XI maintenance extension.

Thank you for your patience in this matter.

[Date&Time]
Mar. 22, 2010 from 22:00 to 23:00 (PDT)
* Maintenance completion time may be subject to change.

[Affected Services]
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2010-03-22 20:36:16
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Game has been down from 3pm UK time, and will be down to 5am at the earliest. You think you all have something to whine about? By the time I got home it was offline and it'll probably be offline in the morning knowing SE!
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By Hades.Neheyiama 2010-03-22 20:36:30
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Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
I'm ready to go after some of this new stuff. SE fail. And you know they knew weeks ago how many characters they were gonna have to transfer and whatnot. ; ;
They're amazing how Fast they can do what they do in a short amount of time. It took me days to config a simple server for a simple game... SE aint no joke...

You cofigured a server YOURSELF? SE has an entire crew. I give you more credit.

It wasn't FFXI server lol

Maple story, it's a trillion times easier. Still takes a bit tho.

Sell you a level 18x bishop :)
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:36:53
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Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
I'm ready to go after some of this new stuff. SE fail. And you know they knew weeks ago how many characters they were gonna have to transfer and whatnot. ; ;
They're amazing how Fast they can do what they do in a short amount of time. It took me days to config a simple server for a simple game... SE aint no joke...
You cofigured a server YOURSELF? SE has an entire crew. I give you more credit.
It wasn't FFXI server lol Maple story, it's a trillion times easier. Still takes a bit tho.

Still. If I got 20 people to do something, I can guarantee it wouldn't take 12 hours unless it was building a house or something to that effect.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:37:14
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Sell me? Pservers bro. Rebornpls
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-03-22 20:37:47
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two and a half hours roughly....

ah well sleeping is overestimated anyway.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:37:48
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
I'm ready to go after some of this new stuff. SE fail. And you know they knew weeks ago how many characters they were gonna have to transfer and whatnot. ; ;
They're amazing how Fast they can do what they do in a short amount of time. It took me days to config a simple server for a simple game... SE aint no joke...
You cofigured a server YOURSELF? SE has an entire crew. I give you more credit.
It wasn't FFXI server lol Maple story, it's a trillion times easier. Still takes a bit tho.

Still. If I got 20 people to do something, I can guarantee it wouldn't take 12 hours unless it was building a house or something to that effect.

It only took 1 person to make the matrix~!
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By Asura.Xenophire 2010-03-22 20:37:54
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Hades.Neheyiama said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Carbuncle.Rinomaru said:
Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
I'm ready to go after some of this new stuff. SE fail. And you know they knew weeks ago how many characters they were gonna have to transfer and whatnot. ; ;
They're amazing how Fast they can do what they do in a short amount of time. It took me days to config a simple server for a simple game... SE aint no joke...

You cofigured a server YOURSELF? SE has an entire crew. I give you more credit.

It wasn't FFXI server lol

Maple story, it's a trillion times easier. Still takes a bit tho.

Sell you a level 18x bishop :)

Oh god. Khainian 136 Bishop here. Going on 4 years of being retired.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:40:12
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Reminds me of an episode of The Guild. Their game had server maintenance, so they actually met up and had a party IRL.
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By Hades.Neheyiama 2010-03-22 20:41:36
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Soo time of extension ending in EST? apparently im hearing ppl are playing right now
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:42:25
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Hades.Neheyiama said:
Soo time of extension ending in EST? apparently im hearing ppl are playing right now

Still down
and it's gunna end 1AM EST

as far as we know
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:42:30
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Hades.Neheyiama said:
Soo time of extension ending in EST? apparently im hearing ppl are playing right now

Servers aren't open for another like.. 3 hours.
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By Fenrir.Vacian 2010-03-22 20:42:48
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Hades.Neheyiama said:
Soo time of extension ending in EST? apparently im hearing ppl are playing right now



1am
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By Unicorn.Stormyfox 2010-03-22 20:43:01
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If SE extend for another 2 hours instead of 10am to midnight but to 2 am, I'll just say *** this and play in the morning XD
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By Hades.Neheyiama 2010-03-22 20:45:47
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Where is the info for the extension?
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:46:28
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http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/info/info_top.shtml
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-03-22 20:46:34
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It's not the "configuring" that takes time, it's merging the data. You need to snapshot the old servers after they come down (which likely takes hours), transfer the data to the new ones, (likely hours more, given how much there is), and then merge all the data back together again, likely one by one to make sure you don't have collisions in names, etc.

Then you have to run through the entire combined set again for verification, comparing the result with the two original sums to make sure you aren't missing anything, probably wipe a bunch of caches, and only then bring things up. The last thing you want is to come back up from the merge and have Little Johnny putting in GM pages saying he lost his Excalibur.

If at any point you notice a discrepancy, you have to stop the presses and start over. And you have to do this for each server you're merging. 12 hours is actually pretty impressive, considering.

Edit: It also amuses me that people blow off the 12 (15 now?) hours thing as a major inconvenience, but would likely *** loudly if someone told them to randomly work a 15 hour day with no additional pay or overtime. There are plenty of things to be pissed off at SE for, guys. Let's give 'em a pass on this one.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:47:07
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Sad to think... In the time they've been "working" on FFXI, I could have finished lvling my WHM to 49 and be back to lvling THF now...
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-03-22 20:48:09
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
And you have to do this for each server you're merging. 12 hours is actually pretty impressive, considering.
I was hoping it'd be something as simple as Copy-pastega D=
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-22 20:48:26
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Maybe they got the ffxiv team helping out for the day...? Also couldn't it be possible they did some prep work of some sort?
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-22 20:48:43
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What amazes me is FFXIah has the uber bandwidth to handle 100's of forum changes a minute.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-03-22 20:48:54
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As jaerik said we have to give them a mulligan because of the sheer amount of data to transfer... and there is no room for error unless you'd like to be randomly selected to log in missing your character and/or gear completely lol.

14 hours is impressive for a transfer PLUS update.
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By Sylph.Sindri 2010-03-22 20:48:59
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Seriously, WTF are they doing? Honestly, Close servers, implement patch, initiate update, open servers. I'd imagine this could have been done like 7 hours ago, if SE didn't take their sweet *** time..

They have to make sure that they get all the glitches in before they set it up :P
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-22 20:49:02
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
It's not the "configuring" that takes time, it's merging the data. You need to snapshot the old servers after they come down (which likely takes hours), transfer the data to the new ones, (likely hours more, given how much there is), and then merge all the data back together again, likely one by one to make sure you don't have collisions in names, etc.

Then you have to run through the entire combined set again for verification, comparing the result with the two original sums to make sure you aren't missing anything, probably wipe a bunch of caches, and only then bring things up. The last thing you want is to come back up from the merge and have Little Johnny putting in GM pages saying he lost his Excalibur.

If at any point you notice a discrepancy, you have to stop the presses and start over. And you have to do this for each server you're merging. 12 hours is actually pretty impressive, considering.

Wish that didn't make so much sense. >< lol.
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