Future Of DRK

Giving it to a bunch of people would be cool, but I think you'd still run into the same problems (area hate + multiple mobs shouldn't have TP in most endgame scenarios)

they should give us absorb buff you know if a mob does warcry let us absorb the buff or like when Jol uses boost if you absorb that its a massive buff to att ect if u put drk on him but i think they should let last resort last like hasso i mean hasso all in 1 is str speed boost and the only downside is the casting/recast so for drk just give us the defence down ***not like a drk would really care but yea absorb mobs enhancment or however they could name it

Meh, you make a good point, I was just trying to think of ANYTHING that would be cool, it all really depends on how they would implement it.

JUst throwing in
En-Dark EnDarkII,DrainIII,Aspir II,Darkstorm or DarkVoid, Fastcast, MaxmpBoost,MagicAttackBonus, ABsorb attack,Absorb Defense, PoisonIII+IV,BioIII+IV, SpikeII Spells

And you can connect two swings in the time you're casting ABS-TP, more or less, giving you 100% TP and about 300~ extra DoT damage. If your Absorb-TP has a freak resist, or the mob TPs unpredictably, or dies before you can finish casting, etc etc - you have just gained 0 damage. With swinging, you will always gain at least some.

EDIT: Before you mention, I know that melee swings can also miss. However, we have far more tools to reduce the likelihood of this than reducing the likelihood of dark magic resisting.

Also Kat, your avatar is sexy :(

Ruin would be cool.. not sure what it should do, but it's go a cool name :)

Reading through this...the only time I bother casting spells in a merit party is dread spikes in between pulls when I know I'll have hate longer than expected. The other being Drain 2 for a quick Souleater weaponskill. If the PT is really that good, an extra Cure IV shouldn't be a problem.

One thing I want to see DRK get......Auto-Refresh. ( > _>)
The other ideas can be trashed and thrown away for all I care as long as we get this.

Seriously go Level sch if you want to buff your party or whm.
LOL @AspirII ***

Duration wise LR is perfect how it is.



50% HP loss on each swing of SE would mean you're also absorbing less HP on BP = SHITBOX


Weapon Bash HI2U

One minute Blood Weapon , One minute on Last resort , less recast on drain II/Spikes is all you need if we want to put it a zerg mode subject.
Drk is really a stable job with the right combo of gears for dark magic and haste set up and whatnot.
I'm sorry to say it but if you can't keep up with a sam in a meripo just quit drk.
Dark Knight IS NOT A MAGE IS A DD , if you feel the necessity of nuking go lvl blm or sch.

@Raenryong
What weapon are you using that you get 2 swings in during an absorb spell cast? Scythes are freakishly slow o.o

He uses Perdu, 501 delay, normal merit PT haste buffs and his gear he swings once every 3.2 Seconds ish, and around 1.9 seconds with Desperate Blows on.

Fair enough. Haven't done a merit party in forever, kinda forgot about the haste :P

Thanks Raenryong. We need some uber, unique JA to get our damage out though. Zerg is nice, if you have weapon required. Maybe some new WS are the answer, I don't know.

/back to campaigning.

Making Guillotine crit would be a step in the right direction, although it's a very powerful WS right now even without critical. Basically we need some comparative JA to Berserk+DA that SAMs or WARs get when /war or /other respectively. 1handers would then need something drastic... like Dual Wield III :D

Either that, or nerf SAM+WAR in some ingenious way to bring 1handers back into the fray that way.

I sense that a lot of QQing will take place when we get T3s as our update.

Drk melee is fine... If you can't keep up, lvl something else.

It's definitely fine, and definitely on the higher end of jobs. What it is not is SAM or WAR. You're not as far behind as people would like to think but there is a difference there.

alot of EXP PT refferences......... you'll never push a job to it's full potential in an EXP situation . and if you are and you arent getting a minimum of 30k/hr then you're doin something wrong IMHO .
and i mean there is more to the game than EXPing , even tho sometimes it doesnt seem that way.
After reading thru the posts i'd think perhaps an ability or out right change to a few Dark Magic Recast timers would change the use of DRK's magic . DRK has an A+(276) Dark Magic , higher than BLM with an A-(269) . With some merits and a little Skill build with gear there really isnt any reason why DRK would be resisted more than BLM . Not to mention Items like Viscious(siclol) Mufflers enhance the Absorb Spells . Since SCs arent really used , and even if they were , MBing a T2 Elemental w/o A staff let alone HQ and the dumb low Ele Skill given to DRKs , you'd need a very dedicated MaB set to come close to a BLM or even RDM Nook DMG wise . It would suit the job better to change Timers to allow more Dark Magic Spammage or enhance the effects there of .
but again DRKs MP pool is fairly low so i mean how much could spam anyway ?

Elemental staves :x

Saint words.

DRK actually has A- Dark magic skill.

Anyway, as you stated, the elemental magics are basically a waste of time, and the only really noteworthy spells for DRK are their dark magic spells.

I find it funny how DRK has higher elemental skill than enfeebling skill yet has Sleep 2, but only tier 2 nukes. Lawl.

DRK is fine just the way it is, except for Blood Weapon. Now, if it increased 2-handed attack speed like Hundred Fists, then we would be talking.

Either that or give us access to Tier 3 spells, or maybe some new job abilities, like our own Hasso or some ***.

SE overpowered SAM and has turned every SAM player into a power hungry douche...

I sense the same fate with DRK.

Being able to absorb and give the stats to the party is an awesome idea, it would really make drk a different type of DD. Blood weapon doesn't work on undead, which confuses me tbh. I understand it due to continuity, but seriously a 2h shouldn't be totally ineffective on a specific enemy type.

A set of armour could be macro'd in for Macc also. Sekkanoki is going to do a lot for drk in certain situations.

It has been announced that drk will be getting more magic options, and that is a good thing.

Edit: I also think Blood Weapon should bestow a bit of haste ONLY when there is no other haste effect on the drk.

DRK: Looking into adjusting dark magic accuracy and cast times. With increased spell usage, will consider new ways to recover MP, as well

From theFFXI Vanafest2010_EN Twitter page.

DRK melee has been the focus of the Dark Knight role. Melee is only selectively useful in Endgame situations, What I am hoping for, is Dark Knight to truly break out into it's original job role as an Attacker-Dark Magic Enfeebler. Or basically anything that gets Dark Knight Casting as part of it's real role anywhere, endgame or Exp party. I'm thinking a new line of Derived stat Absorb Spells would do the trick.
They would also solve another issue, make Liberator a viable weapon, instead of just a useless piece of ***, albeit a very sexy looking piece of ***.

Absorb-ATK (18%stock, 21% 2/Liberator Does not decay over time)
Absorb-DEF (18%stock, 21% w/Liberator, Does not Decay over time)
Absorb-MDF (12%Stock, 15% w/Liberator, Decays over time)
Absorb-MAK (12MATK Stock, 15 w/Liberator Decays over time)
Absorb-SPD (12%Stock 15% w/Liberator, Decays over time, Adds "Flurry" not haste, so does not count to any individual cap, just overall cap)

All those would seem too powerful, yet if one is constantly absorbing, his DPS is going to falter regardless of buffs. Such diversity would force a sense of tactical selection based on the situation. Absorb-SPD in Burns, Absord-DEF before a big zerg, Absorb MDF and INT for a Magic-weak to boost black mage damage. Absorb-MAK for an enemy with dangerously powerful magic. Low Cast time, and a 25% Higher recast than duration (Which could be countered by haste gear/spell) would also help ensure balance.

Of Course, numbers are simply arbitrary to illustrate a point more easily. The real values of any spells like that would need extensive in-game testing to determine how they can be fit in, without collapsing the roles of other jobs.

DRK changes I would like to see:::
Remove bloodweapon and make it a passive ability
so DRK's can drain hp while hitting of a proc rate of as much as warrior's double attack.

Give a new 2hour ability (lasts like 2min) that gives DRK's increased attack ,more tp per hit, and accuracy bonus and a higher percent to drain while hitting the mob

New absorb spells = haste, attack, defence. Maybe a way to weaken a monsters resistance to magic

Increase regular melee damage. B/c I've seen a lot of warriors and samurai hit just as hard as a drk. And I think drk is suppose to be the hardest hitting (slash) damage job in the game.

Increase mp pool
Have a new job ability similar to soul eater but instead of doing physical melee damage, each hit is counted as magic dark damage.

Iono those are my thoughts lol.

Formless Strikes for DRKs, interesting...

Increased MP pool for us DRKs that sometimes /WHM during Campaign

If you guys don't understand the rage that would take place if they changed drk's 2hr then I don't even

I would not mind being able to enhance / augment souleater with T3 merits at 99... Being able to reduce the hp lost or increase the damage delt without increasing hp lost would be fun but not game breaking. Before someone mentions zerg I also have a feeling that we are going to see more and more mobs resistant to souleater burns.