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By Bismarck.Awezomeos 2010-03-15 01:55:15
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Isnt it ? I mean yea its a graet piece of equip, its kinda low level and all Jobs can wear it. But i Dont see it worth near 2 mil Gil. I would say its worth no more then 500k .
Dont make this Debatte into a I have more Gil then u thread.I could easyli buy one.I just dont do because i dont see it worth the Price. Just whats your thoughts on it.
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By Phoenix.Amael 2010-03-15 02:00:57
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How About K.Club. Is it worth 25Mill? It's the drop rate being so horrible and also this being so damn good at such low level that makes it worth so much.
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-15 02:01:52
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Phoenix.Amael said:
How About K.Club. Is it worth 25Mill? It's the drop rate being so horrible and also this being so damn good at such low level that makes it worth so much.

25m? I've seen it sell @ 70+
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-15 02:05:19
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Yes yes it is. Every tp neck that beats it would cost you a bit more and is alot higher lvl. And it's not exactly super duper common. More importantly it sells fairly often so yeah I guess it is worth that much since worth is based on what people are willing to pay
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By Bismarck.Awezomeos 2010-03-15 02:05:55
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Phoenix.Amael said:
How About K.Club. Is it worth 25Mill? It's the drop rate being so horrible and also this being so damn good at such low level that makes it worth so much.
KK is RARE .- But i dont see teh PPC rare anymore tehres allways several on AH, almost anyone wears one , and in bazaars i see them all the time.So you cant call it Rare anymore
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-03-15 02:07:47
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lvl 33. 10 Acc 10 Racc. It isn't to the point where everyone has one, and the drop rate on them isn't exactly awesome. No the piece is worth the amount charged.
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By Bismarck.Awezomeos 2010-03-15 02:10:01
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Ramuh.Urial said:
lvl 33. 10 Acc 10 Racc. It isn't to the point where everyone has one, and the drop rate on them isn't exactly awesome. No the piece is worth the amount charged.
I would say we are at the point where everyone wears one.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2010-03-15 02:11:59
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
lvl 33. 10 Acc 10 Racc. It isn't to the point where everyone has one, and the drop rate on them isn't exactly awesome. No the piece is worth the amount charged.
I would say we are at the point where everyone wears one.
People still pay it. The piece is worth the money for the effort put into getting it and how awesome it is at lvl 33 and beyond.
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By Garuda.Feifongwong 2010-03-15 02:12:12
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Isnt it ? I mean yea its a graet piece of equip, its kinda low level and all Jobs can wear it. But i Dont see it worth near 2 mil Gil. I would say its worth no more then 500k .
Dont make this Debatte into a I have more Gil then u thread.I could easyli buy one.I just dont do because i dont see it worth the Price. Just whats your thoughts on it.

its because A) all jobs can wear it! b) acc+10 is awesome and acc+ improves their over all damage output.

Yes it is worth 2mil... go get some seals if you don't want to pay for it.
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By Seraph.Greyfin 2010-03-15 02:13:53
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Considering its one of the best TP neck pieces in the game, and the fact that you can use it at such a early level are what factor into the price.

It can be used on any DD job from lvl 33+, and i really do mean ANY. The only other options that are better are at lvl 73 and lvl 74. Those options are rather difficult to get too and not cheap either.
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By Garuda.Feifongwong 2010-03-15 02:16:22
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Oh also I'll throw in, unfortunately I do not have one. I've spent my money on other pieces attempting to get one by BCNM. As it is on of the few buy able things left i want I will get it soon and pay 2m for it. It is definitely worth that.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-15 02:18:04
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
lvl 33. 10 Acc 10 Racc. It isn't to the point where everyone has one, and the drop rate on them isn't exactly awesome. No the piece is worth the amount charged.
I would say we are at the point where everyone wears one.
Well seeing as since feb 14 2010 25 have sold on my server and there is only like 1-2 names repeated of someone buying then selling and since I know that guy I'm pretty sure he got something better and sold it for that reason... yeah pretty sure not everyone wears them. Not by a long shot.
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By Sylph.Sindri 2010-03-15 02:26:59
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It's not
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By Asura.Shamaya 2010-03-15 02:32:46
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Nothing is heavily overpriced.

No, I'm serious.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2010-03-15 03:22:51
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Camping Argus is free. :P

(Aside from that little "time-is-gil" thingy.)
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-15 03:34:02
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Isnt it ?

No. No it's not.

Asura.Shamaya said:
Nothing is heavily overpriced.

No, I'm serious.

this, exactly

kind of how a free-market economy works, see

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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-15 03:34:56
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Ragnarok.Anye said:
Camping Argus is free. :P

(Aside from that little "time-is-gil" thingy.)


but that time-is-gil thing is a pretty big catch.

i could make a lot more than 2 mil gil in the time it would take to camp
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-03-15 03:44:29
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
lvl 33. 10 Acc 10 Racc. It isn't to the point where everyone has one, and the drop rate on them isn't exactly awesome. No the piece is worth the amount charged.
I would say we are at the point where everyone wears one.

I don't have one, and would certainly wear it if I could afford it, but I can't so I don't. Make due with what you have or really...stop complaining.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2010-03-15 03:44:35
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ragnarok.Anye said:
Camping Argus is free. :P

(Aside from that little "time-is-gil" thingy.)


but that time-is-gil thing is a pretty big catch.

i could make a lot more than 2 mil gil in the time it would take to camp
hahaha, don't worry. I was being half sarcastic; I've had this "argument" before with a friend in 'shell. :) I agree, but technically speaking you're not spending gil, you're just giving up the chance to make gil.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2010-03-15 03:46:52
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Shiva.Gylfie said:
Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
lvl 33. 10 Acc 10 Racc. It isn't to the point where everyone has one, and the drop rate on them isn't exactly awesome. No the piece is worth the amount charged.
I would say we are at the point where everyone wears one.

I don't have one, and would certainly wear it if I could afford it, but I can't so I don't. Make due with what you have or really...stop complaining.
This is true. As far as I'm aware, Spectacles offer Acc+7/RAcc+7, and there's always Chivalrous Chain for less accuracy but STR and STP.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-03-15 03:49:48
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Isnt it ? I mean yea its a graet piece of equip, its kinda low level and all Jobs can wear it. But i Dont see it worth near 2 mil Gil. I would say its worth no more then 500k .
Dont make this Debatte into a I have more Gil then u thread.I could easyli buy one.I just dont do because i dont see it worth the Price. Just whats your thoughts on it.

It's def worth it's price. For anyone who dont think PCC is worth 2 mil there's always Spectacles

I know some ppl have gone 2/2 on PCC bcnm and such, I myself are more like 0/80.

As Anye said too, if you really cant farm up 2 mil, you can always camp the free one.

Edit: Anye beat me to it D:, type slower Anye! lol
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By Bismarck.Awezomeos 2010-03-15 04:01:26
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Asura.Shamaya said:

this, exactly

kind of how a free-market economy works, see
Free economic??
Yea what about people jacking up the price on certain items?
I could jackup the price on Windcrystals but that woulod not make them worth it
Shiva.Gylfie said:

I don't have one, and would certainly wear it if I could afford it, but I can't so I don't. Make due with what you have or really...stop complaining.
Stop complain about people complaining! btw i didnt complain i asked for everyones oppinion
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Camping Argus is free. :P

(Aside from that little "time-is-gil" thingy.)
I did not ask about PCA i asked about PCC
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By Shiva.Gylfie 2010-03-15 04:05:48
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Stop complain about people complaining! btw i didnt complain i asked for everyones oppinion
Then I didn't complain about complaining, now did I?
Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Ragnarok.Anye said:
Camping Argus is free. :P

(Aside from that little "time-is-gil" thingy.)
I did not ask about PCA i asked about PCC
Clearly you didn't get what she was saying but...thats cool too bro.
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By Pandemonium.Rida 2010-03-15 04:06:01
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Isnt it ? I mean yea its a graet piece of equip, its kinda low level and all Jobs can wear it. But i Dont see it worth near 2 mil Gil. I would say its worth no more then 500k .
Dont make this Debatte into a I have more Gil then u thread.I could easyli buy one.I just dont do because i dont see it worth the Price. Just whats your thoughts on it.
Business 101: Something is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-15 04:11:23
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Pandemonium.Rida said:
Business 101: Something is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

Wait, this isn't "Economics: Supply, Demand, the Market, and You?"

Prof's gonna beat my *** again! ; ;
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By Bismarck.Awezomeos 2010-03-15 04:12:40
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Pandemonium.Rida said:
Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Isnt it ? I mean yea its a graet piece of equip, its kinda low level and all Jobs can wear it. But i Dont see it worth near 2 mil Gil. I would say its worth no more then 500k .
Dont make this Debatte into a I have more Gil then u thread.I could easyli buy one.I just dont do because i dont see it worth the Price. Just whats your thoughts on it.
Business 101: Something is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

YEA Or Has to pay for whatever reason there is.

So it seems most people think its worth 2 mil.Mostly i think because you got some and selled them or you payed it allready.Maybe i just have to pay 2 mil then. NOT.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-15 04:18:33
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Asura.Shamaya said:

this, exactly

kind of how a free-market economy works, see
Free economic??
Yea what about people jacking up the price on certain items?
I could jackup the price on Windcrystals but that woulod not make them worth it


uh yeah, last time i checked i wasn't shamaya and i wasn't on asura

yes, absolutely. in a free market economy, you can sell your goods for as much as you like

it's getting people to buy them that's the trouble
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By Bismarck.Awezomeos 2010-03-15 04:24:19
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
Asura.Shamaya said:

this, exactly

kind of how a free-market economy works, see
Free economic??
Yea what about people jacking up the price on certain items?
I could jackup the price on Windcrystals but that woulod not make them worth it


uh yeah, last time i checked i wasn't shamaya and i wasn't on asura

yes, absolutely. in a free market economy, you can sell your goods for as much as you like

it's getting people to buy them that's the trouble
SOrry quote fail
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-15 04:34:27
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Bismarck.Awezomeos said:
So it seems most people think its worth 2 mil.Mostly i think because you got some and selled them or you payed it allready.Maybe i just have to pay 2 mil then. NOT.

0/?? on UO for both Ni and PCC

Also, Day 20:



I've done neither of your accusations and understand why its cost floats around ~2mil

You wanted thoughts on it, but don't like the thoughts that disagree? I don't quite understand...

Anyway, PCC (And PCA) give you a whopping +10 to your Acc and RAcc. That's as early as Lv33. Not to mention that one of these are able to hold you to 75 on every job you'll be using it for.

So let's see:

Massive Bonus
Relative Rarity
BCNM: Meaning unless you get lucky, you've got to get more seals, plus the cost of items/Drinks/ etc.
All Jobs
Early Access
"The best Neck piece" with a few exceptions or conditions

So, why do you think it shouldn't be ~2mil?

inb4 "Everybody has it" : Supply and Demand, my friend... Supply and Demand.
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By Fairy.Darkei 2010-03-15 04:34:59
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"baw baw I don't have money for pay PCC because the bad people overprice"

the drop no is easy, many PCC you see in AH is old PCC of HL people who got a Torque, PCA, "farm" PCC, drop in BC and have already, etc.

Supply and demand in AH. etc

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