Can't Trade Alabaster Matter To Furnace

Can't trade Alabaster Matter to the Temenos Furnace

-I have Temenenos verification key
-I have done several full runs including opening the chest at the end
-I click on the furnace and it says "You are authorized to use Temenos Units"

Anything I am missing?

The alabaster matter you have is from login, or is it from the chest? The first time you open the chest you are guaranteed one alabaster matter, and unlocks the ability to make the gear.

from login points

Do you have both items already? Are you trading it with an item?

Just Alabaster Matter. Trading Alabaster Matter by itself. I have to do a new full climb to obtain from the chest before I can trade to the furnace?

Yep, you have to obtain it from the chest before you can make one. It was in the patch notes from a recent update.

Didn't he say he did full runs and opened chest?

Someone is lying.

I meant to say I have done full runs in the past and opened the chest, I have NOT done a full run and open a chest and getting Alabaster Matter. Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

You get a matter 100% on first full clear.

...So the trigger to get the gear or upgrade it from the furnace is you have to have obtained a matter from the chest at the end of a run and not login points? Seems kind of weird (interesting) to make that game event a requirement before the furnace gives you the dialogue, given that they are now offering it for free. The logical thing a new player who has never done any climbs would would do would be to trade the matter to the furnace to get the items.

They are really quadrupling down on opening those damn chests...

Only if he opened it after the matter was added to climbs

Damn SE for making us play the game!

But why would you not farm chests. Even if you arent doing 10x a week, are you just sitting at 30k cap and botfarming units to upgrade af/relic you dont use???


Theres gonna be a lot of pissy people when the ugly white AA sets costs more than the 30k cap they have available to them.

Because the content is boring as ***.

Units from the ???, not from bot farming. It's free.

30k (or realistically, 33-45k), is a more than high enough cap. If you're actively upgrading armor, you'll never get remotely close to cap anyway (unless doing a body, and even then the cap is not an issue).


Maybe. Or maybe not.

Players with a 30k unit cap won't be upgrading accessories beyond rank 21, and I think we can reasonably assume that the augments for the armor will follow a similar unit cost system. I've seen these kinds of excuses being made for all the new content that we've received in the past ~6 years. The playerbase ignores it for a long time because they hate change/don't enjoy the content/don't have interest in the rewards/etc, then all of a sudden the gear is "best in slot" or becomes desirable in some way, and now they exclaim that they can't ignore the content anymore and are frustrated because they are now behind.

Yeah and uh...you have 21 ranks of accessories (or armor) to increase your cap from 30k.

So like...2 chest upgrades and you can upgrade it to 25?

The cap won't be a problem, for anyone, unless they make it like 50k to uncurse a piece of armor. It's just dreaming and hoping from people who are proud of their unit caps.

And yeah...there are plenty of people who don't do content that isn't rewarding or fun, because it's not rewarding. I don't think it's an unreasonable position to hold. Frankly, I've done very few Limbus climbs because I already have all the armor I need, most of the armor I want, and the accessories augments are largely irrelevant.

You aren't upgrading accessories to anything unless you're opening chests for the matter, so it doesn't really matter. The one or two freebies a year from logins aren't getting you near rank 21 anytime in the near future.

I said this under the assumption a newer player might get the matter from login points and be completely new to Limbus. There's probably zero chance they'd qualify for climb groups at 119, but if the matter is free, they get an easy piece of gear for no effort to help them get geared up. Just find it awfully strange there's a game event connected to opening your first chest and getting a matter from there, before the npc even accepts it. It's a precedent that's very rarely followed in quests (having to trigger an event to actually use it turn in an item if you obtain it outside of the normal means).

You have how many Primes again?


Anyways, relaxed "boring easy" content with minimal job restrictions that you can net ~80kEP/hr (atleast that what my pointwatch was reporting with 6 ML50 chars before they call capped out), isnt that one of the biggest gripes with other content? That you cant get *** all for EP?

If you actually try ranking up one of the accessories, you'll find one of the problems is if you start with too low of a cap you wont be able to save up enough for the later ranks and it will slow you down a lot. This is why so many are running around point capped or throwing points into +4 items.

Thankfully once you've finished one item in a zone your cap should never be an issue there again.

The scaling on the accessories was too *** up, it started way too low. Im also essentially a month behind since my server had zero percent matter drop rate one month. If it wasnt for some bad luck on some of my chars, id be botting units with the rest of the 30-40k cap scrubs to hit my weekly limits. But some chars are sitting on 30k with matters, some are nearly capped with nothing to spend on.

Sortie and Limbus aren't even remotely comparable in terms of how boring the content is.

Limbus is: kill 4 enemies, zone up. Kill 4 enemies, zone up. Kill 5 enemies, zone up. Rinse and repeat for 2 hours. There's literally no variety, the enemies aren't remotely threatening (unless you intentionally aggro like 20 of them, AND they're horrible types, AND you don't have the right jobs...), and they fall apart in seconds.

Now let's look at Sortie: I only ever do Sortie with friends, so we've got jokes and banter, we're telling stories and chatting. There are bosses which are legitimately challenging. We have to adjust the run literally every run, to try to pick up extra muffins, decide which paths we're gonna take, if we want to risk XYZ to gain more muffins, etc. Sometimes (often) there are mistakes which actually cost us time/muffins. If a mob aggros at the wrong time, or the Bitzer is in a horrible spot, we have to do things differently. You have to do skillchains, magic bursts, have to react to what the enemies are doing.

It's like 1000x more engaging, and I would rather put a bullet in my brain than grind 4 unthreatening enemies 38 times in a row.

"I do limbus with my multibox, its boring and lonely"
"I do sortie with friends, we tell jokes and its fun"

I think you might've missed a couple details I mentioned in there. Might want to read a little more closely next time.

Even a step beyond all the most important details you skipped over: who TF wants to do boring, mindless, easy ***with 5 other people? By design, there's very little, if any, reason to do it together.

Who wants to do ZNM together, guys?!

Oh no, I read it.

Why cant you tell jokes and banter during Limbus? Why is it taking you 2 hours? I'm left to assume its because youre doing Limbus alone and not with others.



Sortie is running around for 40 minutes and to spend 20 minutes kill the same 9 mobs and some trash.

You're using external factors to justify why Sortie isnt boring when you could apply those same external factors to Limbus.

Because you're not reading, or ignoring, all the reasons that are internal.




Sortie: solo you get ~20k muffins and can't possibly kill Aminon. With a group you get 80k+ muffins, guaranteed old case+1, and Mesosiderites.
Limbus: solo you get ~8k units in an hour. With a group you get ~8k units in 30 minutes. There are no unique rewards for going as a group, at all. It's not any more interesting or different.

Do I need to bust out my crayons?

edit: Going back to the reason this came up in the first place...if you have never done Limbus before in your entire life and your limit for units is 30k, but you want to augment an Alabaster Earring from R29 to R30 (somehow), you'd need to do 8 climbs (less than 2 weeks' worth). Keeping in mind that you'd need 30 Alabaster Matter, which is (at least) 29 climbs.

...Yeah...people are really going to regret not raising their caps. It's super important. Until/unless they add another way to get Matters, it's literally impossible to have the cap of units prevent you from adding RP to your item. You can't even get remotely close.

I'd love you to, I'd even lend you mine!