Which Weapon Should I Get I'm Too Stupid To Pick!

Idk, if you're in a 6 boss run then you're looking at the difference between:

MC only: victory march, madrigal, 2 minuets
Vs
Full REMA (excluding lough): honor march, madrigal, 3 minuets

So, a difference of 58 acc & 429 attack, per member of the team, which is further multiplied by chaos and/or fury. Double all of those if you're under the effects of soul voice.

Assuming +8 lucky, non-crooked chaos, that's another 50%, with a non-bolster, non-idris indi-fury you're at another 50%, so...you're losing a thousand attack on 5 party members. Again, double that if you have SV.

Not a big sacrifice.

I'm not saying you can't, or shouldn't, play BRD before you get marsyas and/or daurdabla, but i think it's good to be realistic about what the differences are. Each of them makes a massive difference, especially in party play when you're buffing a whole group of people.

You're not doing any sortie, 6 boss or no, as a 3 song brd, get real.

How Asura of you.

It was suggested on the previous page that the commenter could do 6 boss sortie if he slapped together a BRD with MC. I'm not saying that he could find a PUG to accept him, but I can guarantee that with a supportive, competent, decently-geared party, a BRD with only MC could do 6 boss Sortie. Probably even 8, so long as the other players are solid and the plan is good.

That said, going from "i just have a MC" to full REMA makes a big difference, which was my original point.

Side note but even if you don't need the REMA, you still "need" a moonbow whistle+1 which is no joke price-wise, and should probably pick up some kind dynamis neck...and a bunch of other stuff that isn't a REMA. It's not for the faint of heart (wallet).

Anyway...tangents aside, we really need to shift the narrative from "nobody will ever love you unless you have Idris, epeo, 5 REMAs, and R20 ody gear" to "it's fine, just approach the content at your level and gradually progress through it".

Ody, sortie, limbus, dynamis, ambu, etc. Are all purpose-built to allow people to select the challenge level they're geared and experienced enough for. IMO people should be jumping straight into all that ***. Solo, with 1 friend, with linkshell mates, with PUGs, whatever. Get going.

1,000,000% this.
It's wild how picky people are these days about groups, especially when, if you remove the multiboxers and bots, most servers likely don't even hit 100 real individual players.
I don't remember people, in my 21 years of experience, ever being this picky even back when the population was a lot bigger. The majority of linkshells and pugs I was in (75 cap, aby, adoulin, RoV) just took whatever they could get and made it work.
I recently came back to the game after taking a break when Sortie came out and it's baffling to me that I've seen people want r20 ody, m40+ and other ***... for stuff my old linkshell and I completed fine pre-mlvls.

I get it, they want to do it the most efficient way possible. But if 80% of the server is in the same linkshell, you don't really have options to be picky with and I would honestly rather go into content with a non-meta setup and just make some progress. Because any progress is better than no progress.

Yeah, ok. No group is going to be okay with missing a song. Is it okay to grab MC and get 15min songs while working on daurdabla? Of course, and your group will wait and do 6 boss or w/e while everyone gears up.

Eventually you will need that 4th song because it's a massive boost that cannot be compensated.

If you don't care about progressing why do you need to do sortie. If you want to do sortie and progress, you need certain things. Like 4 songs if you want to play brd.

Would you take a dd with no remas nor a damn naegling to do melee sortie? *** no you wouldn't. Stop pretending.

Has nothing to do with Pugs or servers. You want to do certain content, you need to be prepared and progress to it.

I wholeheartedly support that, at least in theory.
BRD specifically is probably the worst job to try to fit into that model because of how intense it is in terms of "mandatory" stuff you need to get and how big of a difference they make.

The original concept by Maletaru still stands strong for me, just maybe... a bit less than for a plethora of other jobs?
But at the end of the day yes, it stands. Especially if you're in a group of likely-minded people who are aware what their limits are, I see no problem ultimately with that. Things can only improve from that point onward!

The RDM without a crocea, geo without idris, brd without marsyas/daurdabla, pld without burtgang, cor without rostam, and dnc without mpu/twashtar team up. Together they kill all the ground floor bosses.
Then they do E
Then they do G
Then they do F
Then they do H
Then they do aminon.

Rinse and repeat for all the content i listed above. Maybe along the way they get those REMA and achieve amazing things. Nobody has to wait to do content until they have every REMA in the game, just don't expect to go straight to the end. Work your way up from the bottom, with your peers. Or get carried, IDGAF. But I think we need to stop promoting the idea of finishing your character FIRST, then doing content.

Not rocket surgery.

Yeah, I agree with you. I would take your point a step further. I'll try to explain.

FFXI is a game that is 90% preparation and 10% execution. You will spend a huge chunk of your time, reforging gear and making incremental improvements to your character. Then, you enter a fight and you/your group will get curb-stomped. Or perhaps, you win, barely, by the skin of your teeth. Eventually, you'll dust yourself off and try to figure out why/how/what went wrong.

In one situation, where a DD is taking too much damage, it's easy to insist that he/she wear more DT/MDB/Magic Evasion gear. It's also possible that the Healer doesn't have capped cure potency, healing magic skill, enmity-, etc. So, these two options for improvement can pull on each other like a tug-of-war.

Let's say Aminon manages to get a TP move off and cause a wipe. You now have a 5/6-way tug of war between everyone in the party to figure how he got a TP move off. It could be that someone's Absorb-TP Magic Accuracy is too low, or maybe their Absorb-TP recast timers aren't at 12-seconds. It's possible that the PLD's stoneskin drops too quickly and they need to be faster about re-applying it maybe they too need to make some upgrades.

So these are small examples, and certainly belabor your point: We don't need REMAs to do everything. (FYI: I don't believe Fujito when he says they test content without any REMAs). But, we certainly need to be on the same page with the group of people that we play with. I don't think it's too much to ask to pay it forward and help the people you play with accomplish their goals, too.

I have good friends in my Sortie static who've dropped millions of gil and gallimaufry to improve their characters and performance, so we can make the most out of our sortie runs. They certainly did not do this by themselves.

If everyone is committed to helping their group improve, then it's no problem and everyone gets better. But if someone wants to be a passenger princess, who just shows up, and doesn't contribute anything back to the group, it just builds resentment over time.

So, I think "you must have a REMA" is a byproduct of too many people saying "you don't need X" and trying to justify doing as little as possible to get ahead.

It's such a double-edged sword too. I try to help people all the time, and I find that many people will mis-represent a character to get an invite. (Looking at you, 50% of all ML50 WHMs with 0% enhancing-duration duration).

We need a better way to vet characters and that would help *** if someone is worth the time to help, I guess. If it were up to me, FFXIAH would have all of your merits/skills/etc up to date, for easy reference.

Does Miracle Cheer offer anything that is unique or crucial to the job, like if I ever remotely consider to pick up BRD and do the REMAs will I need MC?

I don't know anything about BRD but from how I understand it MC is primarily for convenience and for a new BRD to get a quick potency boost, right?

MC on a REMA BRD is basically for ballading the mages for 15 minutes on lower potency instead of ~12 minutes with higher potency, correct?

And there is still the chance that they add more BRD duration gear later so the duration advantage of MC could shrink in the future.