Destiny's Device - A New/Updated Rune Fencer Guide

If its a short fight/you want more hate tools then /drk(stun, se, wb as hate tools, and poisonga for quick tags) anything long term like ep farming /sams gonna push ahead with the whole 2 mins of 0 job haste with /drk

How important is JSE neck +2? New Run here just got Epeo thinking to slowly gear up the job. I have got the Moonlight neck from another job just thinking if i should invest in jse+2 neck.

Also is there any change in 2026 for the required AF/Relic/Empy armor? And in what sequence are the important of the armor?

Thank you

Personal Choice but given the amount of options you have nowadays I wouldn't say it's vital for anything?
I mean it's good for tank/idle for sure, just not something I would define mandatory.
Moonlight if anything is better for enmity specifically (and for SirD too of course, until you reach the cap)

Guide is down?

I've dm'd one of the mods to pass on the message, I can't do anything to fix it from my side. I apologise. I think something happened with one of the recent site updates.

It's back :)

On the Taeon phalanx pieces, what should the other 2 augment slots be used for?

Sird is what i go for, with the snows being def since theres not mucg better for that slot

For leaf, enemy crit rate if you don't have a use for spell interrupt.

For snow, magic evasion or defense.

Thanks :)

Hi all, new RUN here. Going to be getting Epeo soon...seeing the discussion on the previous pages about Sworn gear changing RUN a bit from a DD perspective, and talking about Lionheart/Helheim...realistically should I be looking to make those too?

I haven't done much endgame at all yet, just want to get an idea of what to expect when I get there. Epeo and dimidiation spamming is still basically the main go-to?

Lionheart/Helheim isn't something you should be considering as part of RUN's primary focus, which is just tanking. If you want to make a fun DD set that nobody will ever ask you to play as, go for it. I only mentioned some of that because Sworn set (with Hoxne) is pretty busted, and was interested in seeing if RUN DD could make a comeback like the Escha days. With so much meva bloat and the insane amount of DPS the two handers can put out now, RUN DD is merely a fun side role you can switch to occasionally just for shingles. Not something of serious consideration unless you're into that kind of thing.

Now with that said, there are some unique role RUN can fill, especially in a Sortie Magic Boss strat setup. And if you wanted to play RUN DD in Sortie or Limbus you certainly could.

Run is not a DD.

no longer a DD*

Instructions unclear, RUN/drk still feels DDesque.
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This is the dilemma. RUN has so much access to phenomenal TP gear, it can absolutely throw on some gear and go to town. The problem with RUN is the job did not age well with gear creep.

The biggest advantage of a RUN DD back in the day was running with a GEO w/ Vex/Attune or Full Attack buffs and just Battuta/OFA/Valiance/Shell through everything with Dimidation or Resolution spam. You didn't need a quality healer or a tank, because RUN walked through most or all status enfeebles and just chunked damage with minimal effort. I distinctly recall doing this for a few Reisenjima HELMs like Albumen. Even some Ambuscades it was better to just bring 2-3 RUN DDs (Meebles Ambu) and just power through any mechanics vs tanking and dealing with it. Now that prime DDs are dropping all 9s in full meva gearsets, bringing a hybrid tank/dd fell out of the meta. Having a RUN also DD was unnecessary. It also gained nearly no modern PDL gear besides the few (Ephramad's Ring, Prime GS, Sroda Ring). Add the fact that is struggles to cap attack most of the time and has to rely on Last Resort for attack speed, it's a bit behind in terms of pure damage potential.

From time to time, I come to a random Ambu or whatever as RUN/DRK and tank while DDing (just rocked full STP build with Hoxne ampulla), which saved a slot in the party instead of having a pure tank spot and DDs. But Ambuscade is old content. Probably could get away with doing it in Sortie, but you don't need a tank there either, so it's kinda moot. Probably could drop the tank spot in Segs, but meh. Already full clearing it with no-tank setups. RUN just got outclassed by ultra powerful defensive DDs, and can't compete for a spot vs PLD (unless it's a specific magical strategy or niche fight like Arebati).

--I use above TP set but instead do Ashera Harness and Dampening Tam w/ Capped QA (but the STP from Turban is more consistent). And Anu Torque vs Null (think your set is +5 STP vs mine).

Yes, I had a lot of fun on RUN DD back when Aeonics and unnerfed GEO Ambuscades were the main content. Being able to make yourself highly resistant to ***like Amnesia, Stun and Petrify was huge, and Lionheart Reso damage wasn't bad either (55kish with DA procs from Temper). Now everyone's resistant to that stuff through MEva gear.

Geo can dd about as well as Run can these days, and full time Nyame while doing it.

Does that make Geo a dd?

On what planet?
RUNDD gear blows GEO out of the water, and even without Hoxne it has access to Temper and better Weapon and TP generation. There's not a single scenario GEO could outperform a RUN. Neither has native attack/DPS tools, but RUN has far superior options. Even without prime or Lionheart, RUN can also use Savage Blade, which is stronger than Black Halo by far.

Nyame is all jobs.

Was exaggerating, but no one is taking Run to Sortie to dd with, lets be real.

Run is magic tank and it's great at it. Let it be.

Old content is old content. I've done full Aeonic climbs with no tank, just a single dd tanking. Same with Omen.

Oh yeah, Run can dd those. And every other dd can tank them and dd better than Run can. What's the point being made here.

The point was the guy above asked if he she invest in a DD run build, I told him not really unless he wanted to have fun DDing, and you strawmanned about how RUN isn't a DD worth bringing anywhere, which nobody debated and we initially established several posts ago

The talking points in the last couple posts were all saying "back in the good ol' days", not in present tense.
Nobody's arguing RUN can match real DDs in 2026.

I was answering the question.

No. Do not make limbus armor for "Run DD". Run is not a DD.

thanks all, appreciate it.

Kind of sad to read that even from a tanking perspective RUN isn't that important or even needed nowadays.

I'll probably keep playing it though, I do enjoy the class regardless. May have to look into an actual DPS job for other endgame content though, I don't want to be rejected from groups just for running a RUN!!

False. In an 8 boss, tank or RUN is not needed or as mentioned some seg groups. Everywhere else in the game that requires a tank, RUN can do the job, and sometimes preferred.

If you're doing a Mage setup for 8-boss, RUN is definitely in the meta for it. You can even extend skillchains for SCHs to make the bursting window more effective with Rayke. Can even MB with Lunge/Swipe.

I've been in a very efficient 8boss run using a Helheim RUN, and he did the entire Fomor 4-step objective solo with only Regen to support him. Battuta just gives you so much flexibility to go full TP set for self SC. I could be misremembering, but it was something like Fimbulvetr > Resolution > Fimbulvetr x2. The SCHs came and nuked the rest of them down (In job order) after he did objective on 3 or 6 of them, and it resulted in like 2-3 chests.

For bosses, they would do Monk's Roll and Auspice to cap SB, and none of the bosses ever used a TP move. It was a nice change of pace and interesting to see a Helheim RUN being quite handy, despite not being your traditional setup. Since you don't really need physical defense in Sortie on RUN, it was a perfect showcase for it and the skillchain properties on the Prime GS was a nifty application IMO. Very efficient group.

So I wouldn't put RUN at the top of the meta list at all, but it does still have a spot in 8-boss if you want to go that route. I even joined a 9B that used RUN tank instead of PLD.

Don't need Prime GS for 4 step, I did it with Epeolatry just fine.
Haste1, Adloquium, Full STP gear, AM3 up and that's it.
Granted I couldn't always seamlessly do it, but with STP Roll it was 100%.

I don't remember the SC, I think it was Freezebite > Hardslash > Freezbite > Hardslash or something like that.

Can also extend Gravi into Darkness on B and F bosses, thunder hand.

On any boss where you use Liquefaction > Fusion > you can turn that into light with Exenterator (from the COR) and then you can make double light with Dimidiation.
Not always realistic given how some bosses strip you of your TP, but I've done it plenty of time.
We were using Regain roll while walking around (and I had a regain idle set and/or was asking for adloquium to always have TP ready on each boss).

Lotsa fun!

Btw it's possible to do 9bosses with Mage setup. Mischief did it! Altough I think it's the only group I've ever heard doing that.
In my group we were all noobs and we would've had the time for 9boss only once or twice, in all or runs. (but we were going with 8boss setup and subjobs anyway).

Mage setup is way more relaxing than Melee if you ask me, way more space for errors and ways to recover from them because of the regenga and the sleepga/bindga/breakga I guess. You don't really get that luxury on Melee setup.

There's a JP group that uploads their runs to youtube that does mage 9 boss Normal mode, but I think they switch to PLD DNC for hard mode.

Yeah but without buffs, this SC does like 10 damage. Fimb > Reso > Fimb (x4) is a lot more if you're looking for efficiency. I was on GEO and just did Indi Haste, so the RUN was capped on attack speed, and he also may have had Sam roll from Corsair

I've seen their videos, they do it but it's tiiiight. Normal mode Aminon mage setup yes, with rdm instead of 2nd sch or 2nd blm. HM with pld and dnc melee.

All vanilla too. They seem to have all the run down to a T, and don't use voice chat at all, all in game. /p for timings of when each group finishes objectives, going downstairs and everything.

The 6 of them are a long time static it seems.