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By fonewear 2018-07-19 18:01:50
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The problem is that Donald Trump supporters now see the world in a mental vacuum where they can only ever compare the actual outcome to the potential outcome of Hilary Clinton winning, but are oblivious to how sad it is that the choices were so bad. It's like rather than be outraged, disappointed and shocked that their choice of politicians got so pathetic they put all their support behind Donald Trump as a band aid to acknowledging and coming to terms with the reality of the situation.
Supporting Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton is understandable, but pretending that he is a competent human being, let alone a qualified or competent political leader is what is concerning to everyone whose mind is not trapped in the "BUT CLINTON WOULD BE WORSE!!" mindset.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-19 18:14:03
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DirectX said: »
The problem is that Donald Trump supporters now see the world in a mental vacuum where they can only ever compare the actual outcome to the potential outcome of Hilary Clinton winning, but are oblivious to how sad it is that the choices were so bad. It's like rather than be outraged, disappointed and shocked that their choice of politicians got so pathetic they put all their support behind Donald Trump as a band aid to acknowledging and coming to terms with the reality of the situation.
Supporting Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton is understandable, but pretending that he is a competent human being, let alone a qualified or competent political leader is what is concerning to everyone whose mind is not trapped in the "BUT CLINTON WOULD BE WORSE!!" mindset.

everyone sees the world from their own perspective... except us crazy people... your vacuum is sealed just as tightly as everyone else's.

we made the bed and now we'e going to lie in it.

or if you prefer... we made the ***sandwich and now we're all taking a bite.

the endless moronic bitching about trump hasn't changed a single person's feels

and if it did what do you imagine that would accomplish?

what's done is done. trump is president. hillary and the dnc can howl like coon hounds passing a peach pit until the end of days. but the truth is Alexis de Tocqueville was right

In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-19 18:23:53
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he also said "As for me, I am deeply a democrat; this is why I am in no way a socialist. Democracy and socialism cannot go together. You can't have it both ways."
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By fonewear 2018-07-19 18:26:24
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Old but good:

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-19 18:40:45
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Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime. Simply put, the collective is simply too stupid to pull it off. And before the smug Europeans try and agree with me, your leaders are crap too.

The establishments of both parties in the U.S. are just flat out awful. I would have elected a literal middle finger if I could have just to make them run around like the sky was falling. Trump was a serviceable substitute, and in spite of the sheer panic (which is hilarious, btw), my quality of life is up and WWIII isn't any closer to happening as a result of his election. In other words, you can't make me care about "unpresidential behavior" when the people who have been groomed to act presidential are the very people that needed to be taken down a notch and shown their place.
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By fonewear 2018-07-19 18:53:20
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Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime. Simply put, the collective is simply too stupid to pull it off. And before the smug Europeans try and agree with me, your leaders are crap too.

The establishments of both parties in the U.S. are just flat out awful. I would have elected a literal middle finger if I could have just to make them run around like the sky was falling. Trump was a serviceable substitute, and in spite of the sheer panic (which is hilarious, btw), my quality of life is up and WWIII isn't any closer to happening as a result of his election. In other words, you can't make me care about "unpresidential behavior" when the people who have been groomed to act presidential are the very people that needed to be taken down a notch and shown their place.

Just wait till the Dems roll out

Bernie

Biden

And a bunch of Democrats most people never heard of.

2020 is going to be HUUUUUUGE.

Actually according to the Amazon Post Bernie is the number 1 candidate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/07/06/the-top-15-democratic-presidential-candidates-for-2020-ranked-3/?utm_term=.ef4488f805f6
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By fonewear 2018-07-19 18:55:58
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Also putting money down for Hillary to come out of the "woods" and run again.

At least 50/50 chance.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-19 19:31:10
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fonewear said: »
Also putting money down for Hillary to come out of the "woods" and run again.

At least 50/50 chance.

no way in hell we are that lucky
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-07-19 19:34:01
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime. Simply put, the collective is simply too stupid to pull it off. And before the smug Europeans try and agree with me, your leaders are crap too.

The establishments of both parties in the U.S. are just flat out awful. I would have elected a literal middle finger if I could have just to make them run around like the sky was falling. Trump was a serviceable substitute, and in spite of the sheer panic (which is hilarious, btw), my quality of life is up and WWIII isn't any closer to happening as a result of his election. In other words, you can't make me care about "unpresidential behavior" when the people who have been groomed to act presidential are the very people that needed to be taken down a notch and shown their place.

That's why I said

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I would say a majority of the swing votes Trump got was because of how arrogantly vile the left was during the 2016 election.

Republicans voted for him to keep Clinton out of the White House, Republicans loath President Trump. When Trump won the Republican primary he already locked in the Republican votes or at the very least ensured they wouldn't vote for Clinton. All he had to do was win the portion of the US population not beholden to a political religion and who normally don't care about whats going on. He did that by appearing human, sometimes Homer Simpson level human, but still vastly more reliable then the liberal elites the Democrats were demanding we all support or we're deplorable racist misogynists. All he had to do was win over Joe Sixpack and Frank Office Space. Contrary to what the socialists would say, most Americans are neither Democrats nor Republicans but instead this fuzzy grayish place called "I don't give a ***". Both parties have largely ignored them because they don't give a *** and rarely vote because they don't give a *** about either horrible elite candidate. Then someone like Trump comes along and straight up trolls both parties causing indignation and outrage far better then any reality TV show could. Now you got all those "I don't give a ***" laughing and enjoying the show. Then the Democrats wade in and call all those *** bad words, which pretty much solidifies their support of the guy doing all the trolling.

basically this is how it went

Trump trolls the Democrats
The Audience Laughs
The Democrats insult the Audience
The Audience gets pissed at the Democrats
Trump wins the election
The Audience cheers
The Democrats continue insulting the Audience
Trump continues trolling the Democrats
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-07-19 22:33:17
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Viciouss said: »
resuming their restoration of their nuclear facilities
I'd be interested in seeing this confirmed by any source outside of ffxiah.

Is North Korea secretly continuing its nuclear programme?
Will BBC do?
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-07-20 00:54:02
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Who are the "norks" again? They sound like a Dr. Seuss villain.
I hear this every time that nickname is used
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-20 07:57:42
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Devin Nunes is in trouble. Caught abusing taxpayer money and a pic of him together with Russian spy Maria Butina has surfaced.

From what I've read, his use of the money is shady but not necessarily illegal. As for the spy picture, I can't find that anywhere. Clearly it's not as big a deal as you're making it.

But yeah, "Hurr Durr I'm CJ, treason and hanging from trees and KKK and Putin! Arrrgh!"
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-07-20 08:58:06
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Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime....
Don't hold your breath Rav, IMHO the last truly great president we had was FDR.

Many of the presidents of my lifetime had great moments, or great promise, but none achieved greatness. Nor did most even have an opportunity.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-07-20 09:04:04
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he's a republican rav. so he is obviously guilty before proven even more guilty and obviously he is evil....duh.

and he boinked a russian chick since there is a picture of the two of them in the same room and she is clearly a spy since whatever cj assumes is obviously true... which means devin likes borscht... which is clearly the line that connects all the dots between putin and trump. so hillarity lost because... treasonous bananas.

it's all right there in black and white crayon and pizza grease and yellow #5 from Doritos and what we can only hope isn't poop...but it probably is so please wash your hands

c'mon man DEVIN that's like one letter off from DEVIL it's so obvious
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By Viciouss 2018-07-20 09:16:00
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15k on Celtics tickets, that's a lot of games in Boston for a guy from So Cal.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-20 09:19:25
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
he's a republican rav. so he is obviously guilty before proven even more guilty and obviously he is evil....duh.

and he boinked a russian chick since there is a picture of the two of them in the same room and she is clearly a spy since whatever cj assumes is obviously true... which means devin likes borscht... which is clearly the line that connects all the dots between putin and trump. so hillarity lost because... treasonous bananas.

it's all right there in black and white crayon and pizza grease and yellow #5 from Doritos and what we can only hope isn't poop...but it probably is so please wash your hands

c'mon man DEVIN that's like one letter off from DEVIL it's so obvious

Wow. It all makes so much more sense when you say it. You are a gentlemen and a scholar. Or whatever the evil version of that is....

You're a scoundrel and an evil mastermind?
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By Siren.Mosin 2018-07-20 09:35:03
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
the endless moronic bitching about trump hasn't changed a single person's feels

It's actually pushed me towards trump a little.
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By Siren.Mosin 2018-07-20 09:38:18
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Will BBC do?

Don't get snippy with me grandma chanti! Vic's links were fine. I wasn't calling the guy a liar, I've been busy as fak at work and haven't had time to read a ton of news.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-20 09:46:01
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Siren.Mosin said: »
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the endless moronic bitching about trump hasn't changed a single person's feels

It's actually pushed me towards trump a little.

Which is why I'm always harping about backfire. There are serious sociological consequences that the Left simply hasn't been able to recognize nor grasp.

The galvanization is real. You have to stop firing long enough for people to come out of their bunkers. After a while, people don't know what the point of the fighting is anymore, they just know that you're making a ton of racket and they just want you to shut up.
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By fonewear 2018-07-20 10:06:42
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Devin Nunes is in trouble. Caught abusing taxpayer money and a pic of him together with Russian spy Maria Butina has surfaced.

From what I've read, his use of the money is shady but not necessarily illegal. As for the spy picture, I can't find that anywhere. Clearly it's not as big a deal as you're making it.

But yeah, "Hurr Durr I'm CJ, treason and hanging from trees and KKK and Putin! Arrrgh!"

KKK USA hip hop hooray ho ! Hey Ho !
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By fonewear 2018-07-20 10:07:44
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When CJ talks I'm going to replace it with a Naughty by Nature song:

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By fonewear 2018-07-20 10:10:00
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I was fortune enough to grow up int he golden era Rap Historians say in started some time in 1991 and end approximately in 1998.

You could argue we will never seen rap that good in a long time.
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By fonewear 2018-07-20 10:13:44
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Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime....
Don't hold your breath Rav, IMHO the last truly great president we had was FDR.

Many of the presidents of my lifetime had great moments, or great promise, but none achieved greatness. Nor did most even have an opportunity.

Nonsense that sum *** couldn't even still owes me a buffalo nickel...with interest that is like 20,000 dollars.
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Candlejack said: »
Devin Nunes is in trouble. Caught abusing taxpayer money and a pic of him together with Russian spy Maria Butina has surfaced.

I have some incriminating pictures of you with at the Vermont Teddy Bear store...let's just say it was quite distributing
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By fonewear 2018-07-20 10:47:27
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Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime. Simply put, the collective is simply too stupid to pull it off. And before the smug Europeans try and agree with me, your leaders are crap too.

The establishments of both parties in the U.S. are just flat out awful. I would have elected a literal middle finger if I could have just to make them run around like the sky was falling. Trump was a serviceable substitute, and in spite of the sheer panic (which is hilarious, btw), my quality of life is up and WWIII isn't any closer to happening as a result of his election. In other words, you can't make me care about "unpresidential behavior" when the people who have been groomed to act presidential are the very people that needed to be taken down a notch and shown their place.

I read this as can we have a benevolent dictator. If that doesn't work out we could always overthrow the government put CJ in charge...what is the worse thing that could happen...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-07-20 11:46:03
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime. Simply put, the collective is simply too stupid to pull it off. And before the smug Europeans try and agree with me, your leaders are crap too.

The establishments of both parties in the U.S. are just flat out awful. I would have elected a literal middle finger if I could have just to make them run around like the sky was falling. Trump was a serviceable substitute, and in spite of the sheer panic (which is hilarious, btw), my quality of life is up and WWIII isn't any closer to happening as a result of his election. In other words, you can't make me care about "unpresidential behavior" when the people who have been groomed to act presidential are the very people that needed to be taken down a notch and shown their place.

I read this as can we have a benevolent dictator. If that doesn't work out we could always overthrow the government put CJ in charge...what is the worse thing that could happen...

He would brand everyone he hates as Nazis, round them up, and execute them. You see, CJ doesn't understand the concept of irony.
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By fonewear 2018-07-20 13:00:50
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Perhaps I'm too young to be a cynic, but I doubt I will see a truly great president in my lifetime. Simply put, the collective is simply too stupid to pull it off. And before the smug Europeans try and agree with me, your leaders are crap too.

The establishments of both parties in the U.S. are just flat out awful. I would have elected a literal middle finger if I could have just to make them run around like the sky was falling. Trump was a serviceable substitute, and in spite of the sheer panic (which is hilarious, btw), my quality of life is up and WWIII isn't any closer to happening as a result of his election. In other words, you can't make me care about "unpresidential behavior" when the people who have been groomed to act presidential are the very people that needed to be taken down a notch and shown their place.

I read this as can we have a benevolent dictator. If that doesn't work out we could always overthrow the government put CJ in charge...what is the worse thing that could happen...

He would brand everyone he hates as Nazis, round them up, and execute them. You see, CJ doesn't understand the concept of irony.

Should bring back the duel instead of voting whoever survives the dual stays in Congress. Whoever survives duel becomes President.
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By fonewear 2018-07-20 13:01:37
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At the choice of the offended party, the duel could be fought to a number of conclusions:

To first blood, in which case the duel would be ended as soon as one man was wounded, even if the wound was minor.
Until one man was so severely wounded as to be physically unable to continue the duel.
To the death (or "à l'outrance"), in which case there would be no satisfaction until one party was mortally wounded.
In the case of pistol duels, each party would fire one shot. If neither man was hit and if the challenger stated that he was satisfied, the duel would be declared over. If the challenger was not satisfied, a pistol duel could continue until one man was wounded or killed, but to have more than three exchanges of fire was considered barbaric and, on the rare occasion that no hits were achieved, somewhat ridiculou
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