Mordus Veritas!

How long till this gets nerfed?

So far is valid. The only way I think of they can Nerf it is by making each SCH's Modus Veritas and Helix unique for the SCH. The modus veritas will only be able to be used by the SCH who did the Helix.

I hope they dont eff this up. My jaw dropped when I saw the UFO video.

***...

...really?

Oh wow.. I wanna try that now.

hurry before they nerf or don' maybe is banstick not like i'd miss you.

I have a feeling if this is overused SE is going to start banning over it (yeah I know, it's a stupid reason but ... that's SE for ya)

Either that or they are going to nerf it like any other good thing people find out.

it won't be "nerfed" but the effect will be reduced on some monsters.....

....like Absolute Virtue (already has to be honest)

Not sure if they'll nerf it before an AV kill, but probably. If people can get it working to start killing AV though, I can see an immediate nerf on either AV or globally. I imagine a global nerf would make more sense considering the tactic can one shot most mobs in the game >.>

true, but it requires so much timing just to get 9 MVs to go all at once.

You basically have to have something close to an old NASA system (where all the characters use the job ability at the same time) in order for it to work. Which is probably the reason of SE's ultimate objective.

See, you could tell if 9 people are using a bot if they all use the same job ability within the same millisecond (which is what the timer for SE's servers run as, thats how they read logs, in case you didn't know) and SE has their proof for bans. This could all just be a clever ploy to bring out the bots on something big like this.

You never know~

I don't see what's wrong with it, just seems like a glitch on SE's part.

And SE clever? No way.

well isnt the problem with glitches that if you dont report them, but use them then its bannable?

is this considered a glitch though?

Seems to be perfectly legit to me.

That's what they said for the other bannings, but this almost doesn't feel like a glitch. I mean, when are you ever gonna get that many sch's together at one time?

I just noticed a GM was there in the vid anyway.
Unless that's a dat mod cause they're naked.

Was gunna say, since when do GM's run around in Earth staffs while naked lol.

This isn't a glitch, nor really a loophole. A group of players found a way to utilize an ability in a mass. While this is not a bannable offense, it won't be long before SE says "wait guys. We need to put a cap on this. Like, now." That's SE for you. Slow to buff/give, quick to nerf/take.

Its not a glitch because you are following the ability itself.

The Salvage thing was a glitch, because you took something and multiplied it by disbanding the party.

This isn't a glitch because you aren't doing anything outside of what is stated by the job ability.

How long until this thread turns into a SCH vs BLM thread.

If this work very well on let's say AV then it will happen often till the nerf, but i doubt it would be enough to one shot AV... Guy who uploaded the video is claiming it can one shot AV, though! Oh well...!

About now:

At least BLMs don't have to rely on ***like this for damage.

Get 18 BLMs together and you can kill more ***in 10 minutes than what 18 SCHs can with this hax.

POIDH!

In theory, it could. If AV does have 66,000 HP.

I've never fought AV, and don't know what sort of damage it takes from nukes and such, but if a ES -Helix could do ~100 damage, then 10 SCH would produce:

2^10=1024
1024 * 100 = 102,400

Effectively overkilling AV by several thousand damage. I'd say a more realistic estimate, based on my assumptions of how badly it's going to resist, would do maybe 50% of that. So, theoretically 18 SCH would be able to drop it with ease. Maybe 1 SCH/BLM in each PT, and 5 SCH/RDM. Popping it like that would be the problem XD

If we used 15 SCH, and added a COR to each PT, then we'd be able to kill JoL and AV, assuming COR can recharge Modus.

2^15 = 32768
32,768 * 50 = 1,638,400

(I'm assuming I got those numbers right >_> I followed a video off the one shown in this thread to one done by Kaeko where he has the "formula" in the description for one of his videos)

lol...as funny as this is, I second this notion. >_>

Unless it's 18 SCH's, I don't see it happening. And even so, the problem being ALL of them have to be *perfectly* synced. In case people do not know, Modus doubles Helix damage while halving the duration time. Now, Helix's do not last long. At all. Yes, having 18 people use something to halve that time means it will wear off instantly. You would have to time it so EVERYONE uses Modus *just* before the DoT would activate in order to get the effect.

This is being thrown around like it will be a common absolute tactic. In case you haven't noticed, people are not as good at this game as they used to be due to spoiling. Find me 18 SCH's who can constantly pull this off, fine. It's possible. But you're not finding a bunch per server, that's for damned sure.

You have no idea how the mechanics even works. 18 SCH isn't -ever- going to work.

It requires 10 SCH, not one more, not one less.

Getting the timing right is the biggest problem.

Why do we have another thread ? http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=5096&lp=1#231651

I made that thread before this one.

I was gonna say ... haven't we had this discussion before??

Good lucking getting 10 good scholars to time it exactly right though. Not to mention just getting the Scholars themselfs. SCH seems to be a job that is rarely played, and even then not many take it past 37 (or at least on my server, there are times when I've been the only SCH online).

The events I've gone to, 4 BLMs can't even time their own nukes correctly so getting 10 people to time Mordus perfectly seems a bit tough. Plus Mordus has a long recast timer. I think a good setup could kill much faster then 10 Scholars who have to wait 15 minutes for Mordus.

Akeda should finish his SCH >.>

This trick has been commonly thought of, at least in theory, for a really long time already, although I've never actually practiced or heard of it practiced yet myself, at least until now. But considering this, if it wasn't working the way it was intended I imagine they would have done something about it already.

As people have said, it's a lot easier said than done to pull this off, and let's face it, it's not very common that you get more than one or two SCH together at once.

One thing I'm wondering, though - if the SCH all have maxed out merits in Modus Veritas the timing might not be so important. Well, something to think about.