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 Asura.Theenabler
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By Asura.Theenabler 2017-06-07 02:28:10
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Starting these to get the discussion out of the version update thread.
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By Carbuncle.Brutalforce 2017-06-07 03:02:03
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Ambuscade Vol.1 VD do you need it? BLMx2 SMN SCH /tell 2/6
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By Asura.Tuvae 2017-06-07 05:34:44
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only tried on VE, tidal wave is a joke against a PLD as expected. Its the benediction everytime he summons levi thats annoying. Curious, if the water elemental dies, would it stop him summoning levi maybe?
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By Phoenix.Darkspawn 2017-06-07 07:03:39
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did one on easy mode as smn, is againt tonberry one @ starts is smn type mob likes to call leviathan about every 10-15% hp taken, then below 50% call other one to join the fight "bozetto monarch" , this one seems like DD type, it used 10k needles on me when he was 75%.
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By Cerberus.Neojuggernaut 2017-06-07 07:15:39
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We attempted on Normal after update. Setup was PLD, GEO, COR, DRK, BLM, WHM. Nothing groundbreaking but we found a few things out as far as experimenting went:

1. You can kill elementals in order to stop Astral Flows from going off but the Bozzetto Rascal will just resummons elementals throughout the fight.

2. Master BLM with Elemental Seal was unable to silence on the pull. Was hoping maybe that would prevent summoning.

3. Lullaby did not land on anything.

4. Was roughly around 75% health when the Rascal Summoned help. Two other tonberries and eventually the Bozzetto Monarch.

We were prodding around with the recently updated status ws's as well, looking to see if we could figure out the gimmick to this month. No avail as of yet. Maybe the JPs have it figured out by now
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By Asura.Tuvae 2017-06-07 08:09:44
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Just done a D aswell, Monarch has monsterous amounts of eva... highest DD we had was 40%, he said he has 1500 ACC aswell so there must be a way to lower it. Next strat is to kill boss before adds, see what happens...
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By Asura.Vdoubleo 2017-06-07 08:10:04
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Just did D, had an extra mob spawn that seeemed to keep summoning but nothing appeared? killed it after rascal. after all adds went to monarch and acc on my THF was 67%. My THF had 1540 acc at the time, along with feint on... and it wasn't PD so theres an evasion mechanic in play somewhere i think
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By Phoenix.Kinghippo 2017-06-07 11:01:39
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HP warp to Den of Rancor is a good place to farm tonberries for KI, and some worms there for Volume 2.
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By Asura.Theenabler 2017-06-07 11:30:48
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Just to be clear, 10k needles is a battlemod bug that has happened in the past. Battlemod will sometimes show names of TP moves from the prior month in place of the new TP moves. I'm pretty sure Everyone's Rancor = 10k needles.
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By Asura.Neufko 2017-06-07 11:32:53
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I think it's already been fixed. Just reload windower
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By Shiva.Arislan 2017-06-07 12:39:18
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Kinda depressed that a visit to the Tonberry Priest is probably mandatory for this month's Vol 1. T_T
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By eliroo 2017-06-07 13:25:53
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Is the target always the tank?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-07 13:36:03
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Laevus said: »
varify
Verify.

/heil Merriam-Webster!
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-07 13:44:15
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Laevus said: »
Well, not being a native has its flaws.
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By Yandaime 2017-06-07 14:36:48
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So... V1 has Rancor? I guess it's not terrible just a pain that to participate without risk of oblivion, I need to get my hate reset which is a pain because I use my Ring..

And.. V2 is some sorta thing that has an Equip-Lock Aura??? I kinda feel like I might skip this month's Ambu idk. Both of these fights seem very.. Annoying lol. I want to build more +2 Armors, monies and Capes x infinity but jeez lol
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By Shiloh 2017-06-07 17:25:01
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Went in VE solo as SMN(Nirvana). I called August, Zeid II, Adelheid, Koru and Apururu. I used Zeid and Adelheid to possibly help with Stunning moves and Zeid can rock out some Ground Strikes. However, after reviewing chatlog it doesn't appear that either trusts attempted to use stun.

I buffed RR(Cait Sith), EW(Titan), HastegaII and AA(Garuda) and fough with Ramuh. I didn't bother with elementals. My first Shock Squall on the Monarch was resisted however all the others landed. All trusts survived the first Astral Flow, but 1 trust didn't survive the 2nd(Adelheid I believe).
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By Asura.Aoryu 2017-06-07 17:25:42
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Laevus said: »
Theory: Please verify

A)The Monarch casts Bind on a Target. After that, the shadow appears and they skillchain on the target.

>>> Erase Bind on the Target, the player moves away >> negate damage from the potential SC?

B) The Monarch takes additional damage when his shadow is present.

monarch will use light of judgement (bind + gravity), then follow with vertical slash and the shadow monarch will close for darkness. damage is variable, sometimes it does nothing and others it can 1 shot. we tried whm sacrifice and then tank running away from shadow, but couldn't tell if it made any difference. everyone's wrath shouldn't kill if hate has been reset fairly recently, but is aoe grudge.

edit: corrections below, i must have been hit with the defense down from lateral slash when it 1-shot.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2017-06-07 17:55:07
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VD Intense :
Rascal : SMN
Chaser x2 :THF
Defilier : BLM
Slicer : NIN
Monarch : DRK/MNK/WAR/THF/?
Stun works on all mobs.
Monarch randomly selects one SP.

Light of Judgment : Gravity+Bind+reset TP, always followed by Vertical Slash (acc down) or Lateral Slash (very potent def down) for Distortion SC then an attack from the shadow clone for Darkness SC.
Fetters : AoE low magic damage+Bind+Paralyze
Vital Strike : Throat Stab attack
Sigh : Big evasion boost, must be dispelled
Everyone's Wrath (single target) / Everyone's Revenge (AoE 25'+) : Damage is 100x the amount of Tonberries slain. EA/Scherzo and Migawari don't work for these moves.

We zerg the Rascal with Shock Squall and kill it everytime before Astral Flow. It's also possible to survive the double AF with a mix of Fend, Sacrosanctity, One For All, Rampart etc.
Mijin Gakure can deal up to 3,5k dmg without EA/Scherzo or Sacrosanctity.
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-06-07 19:10:02
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Do the Tonberries in the fight raise Tonberry hate as well?
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2017-06-07 19:38:16
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Yeah, in VD the moves will do 500 damage once you have killed the five tonberries before Monarch then on the second run they will do 1400 (don't forget you need to kill 3 tonberries for a new KI), 2300 on the third run... Unless there is a secret method to prevent these attacks you have to reset your hate every 2~ runs.
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By clearlyamule 2017-06-07 19:45:07
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Just when you thought SE couldn't make ambuscade even more annoying and a time sink they one up themselves
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-06-07 19:48:12
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clearlyamule said: »
Just when you thought SE couldn't make ambuscade even more annoying and a time sink they one up themselves

At least you can spam #2 easily... OH WAIT !


18 min clear posted on Youtube:

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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-06-07 20:24:39
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KG is a good player, but there's got to be a better solution than double geo, brd, blu to kill that quickly.
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By Staleyx 2017-06-07 20:34:14
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Check out rua's vid/ 4:44 clear on VD

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By Ruaumoko 2017-06-07 20:40:27
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
KG is a good player, but there's got to be a better solution than double geo, brd, blu to kill that quickly.

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RUN/WHM/GEO/BRD/COR/BLU
Intense VD won in roughly 4:30, including time taken buffing.

Crucial thing in this fight is to keep your Tonberry hate low (Everyone's Revenge is AoE) and for your tank to have good reflexes. Lateral Slash is used as the 2nd step in a 3-step Darkness and if it's Defense Down isn't removed (Papesse is right, it is VERY strong) your tank is going to die. You can't wait for a WHM to remove it, use a Panacea quickly.

A few errors in the video.

  • Light of Penance should be Light of Judgement.

  • Everyone's Wrath is not AoE, but it might be conal?

  • Everyone's Revenge is AoE.

  • I'm not sure the Tonberry Wraith's attack even has a name, if it does I didn't see it in my log. It's called 'Wraith Stab' instead.

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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-06-07 20:41:07
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nvm
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-06-07 21:21:26
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What element is defense down? Might it be possible for a RUN to pflug it?
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By clearlyamule 2017-06-07 21:24:51
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generally it's wind
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