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 Asura.Cevlina
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By Asura.Cevlina 2015-03-19 02:57:52
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Well, that's over with now...



With all the suffering and despair from this Press Conference, I should have been using my Gen Urobuchi Bingo Page.
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By Heimdel 2015-03-19 02:58:05
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Asura.Dakenx said: »
Is this officially FFXI "Jumping the Shark?"
No, that's already happened.

Heimdel said: »
Nexon has a bad rep as a developer?
That would be an understatement.

Oh in what way then?

Honestly this whole thing sounds a little like they are getting desperate to generate new cash flows. Very misguided ways all be it. Though that is how the company has been run for years now and getting it into trouble.
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By Sylph.Elwynbelwyn 2015-03-19 02:58:24
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FFXIV debuts... it's the end of FFXI!
Mobile ***debuts... it's the end of FFXI!

Prediction: die-hard PC players will still be paying SE's bills as the mobile ***flops hard.
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By Shiva.Kingmancat 2015-03-19 02:59:09
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Asura.Roczilla said: »
With rocket boots. Straight to space.

The high heeled ones from Smash?
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By Carbuncle.Rasalgethi 2015-03-19 02:59:14
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Full Summary

New Add-On Scenarios and Major Updates

In May, August, and November there will be 3 major updates entitled "Vanadiel's Song of the Stars".

These will be grand, major updates including new areas, battle content, and battle systems including dynamic events (think RIFTs, FATEs).

Following these updates, there will be no more major content updates for FFXI, but the game will continue to be supported with minor patches and the servers will not be closing down.


Console Support

Playstation 2 and Xbox 360 support will be dropped in March 2016.


MMMRPG

Massively Multiplayer Mobile Role Playing Game. It will include a sort of version of FFXI that will allow you to do some things directly to your FFXI character while incorporating new features not available on the PC. They're looking for ways to "make people want to log in every day".

Best summary.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Arcaron 2015-03-19 02:59:21
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/46414-Conference-Digest Full English Version
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By Sylph.Kuwoobie 2015-03-19 02:59:22
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Hopefully the new addons will be as much better than the last three as Abyssea was of the first three... at least.

I'm really a bit heartbroken that there won't be at least one more real expansion. There is so much more to the world of Vana'diel that we haven't seen, namely the homeland of Tenzen and Gessho, the "Far East" and the homeland of the orcs/gigas and the far southern lands.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2015-03-19 03:00:00
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Nevermind, it's already up:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/46414-Conference-Digest?p=543880#post543880
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By Bismarck.Lizk 2015-03-19 03:00:58
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Hahahaha it's over

It's really over

Now that everyone know this, is there any reason to keep playing?
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By Fenrir.Celdwn 2015-03-19 03:01:05
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please remember, this is a Japanese game for Japanese players in Japan, all the rest of us are (not really wanted) guests.
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By mortontony1 2015-03-19 03:01:19
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Quetzalcoatl.Arcaron said: »

Well that was fast.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2015-03-19 03:01:43
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They won't change their sub policy until maybe at least 1yr from now since we are getting mini expansions and the usual type updates till november.
I think they also didnt server merge because they could see a bump in (re)subs for the 3 mini expansions and possible +subs from the mobile client and grandmasters.
It would have been bad to merge and have more people come back to XI and then not have the infrastructure room to accomodate.
Trusts are going to get buffed up again and the trend is to pretty much allow them everywhere in all battle content. This mitigates server/timezone low population problem and also allows people that want to solo everything.
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By Lyncath 2015-03-19 03:01:45
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Bismarck.Lizk said: »
Hahahaha it's over

It's really over

Now that everyone know this, is there any reason to keep playing?
Until the final addon is completed.

Then, if the sub fee doesn't go down, yeah. End of the road.
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By Leviathan.Vienne 2015-03-19 03:01:55
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Carbuncle.Jashin said: »
Aaaaaand it's over. Now to go to bed and wake up in the morning to full translations. Then I can go to the store to find a sweet grey blazer and beige slacks like that one guy so i too can look like my wife dressed me.

Glad i'm not only one impressed with the dresscode XD
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By Mookies 2015-03-19 03:02:31
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Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Full Summary

New Add-On Scenarios and Major Updates

In May, August, and November there will be 3 major updates entitled "Vanadiel's Song of the Stars".

These will be grand, major updates including new areas, battle content, and battle systems including dynamic events (think RIFTs, FATEs).

Following these updates, there will be no more major content updates for FFXI, but the game will continue to be supported with minor patches and the servers will not be closing down.


Console Support

Playstation 2 and Xbox 360 support will be dropped in March 2016.


MMMRPG

Massively Multiplayer Mobile Role Playing Game. It will include a sort of version of FFXI that will allow you to do some things directly to your FFXI character while incorporating new features not available on the PC. They're looking for ways to "make people want to log in every day".

Best summary.


My question is. Do they consider the monthly updates they have been doing minor updates? I'm fine with that if so.
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By mortontony1 2015-03-19 03:03:40
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Quote:
We are pleased to welcome as our partner NEXON, Co., Ltd., a company that boasts a variety of experiences and a world class track record in both developing and operating MMORPGs on mobile platforms.

Also this

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We plan to extend service to Japan, Korea, and North America, as well as Europe and the rest of Asia, with an eye toward release in 2016.
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By Shiva.Kasaioni 2015-03-19 03:04:02
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Sure, I'll play XI on a mobile devise. Why not? As long as it actually runs well. But I guess this means we are going from PS2 limitations, to mobile limitations.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Bloodpool 2015-03-19 03:05:03
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I'm still baffled lol...
OVER/UNDER What happens first?
PS2/360 lose support in MAR 2016 or
Servers shutdown in NOV/DEC 2015 cuz the story is finished and everyone cancels?
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2015-03-19 03:05:30
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Carbuncle.Kurosawa said: »
Fenrir.Schutz said: »
It's because they host some really nasty F2P cash-transaction games like Maple Story and Mabinogi, both of which have bad reputations for gouging players with cash-transactions and cash-sink style game features.

I did wonder if that would have been a lead-in introduction into an FFXI F2P business model, but it wasn't brought up.

So are the games themselves bad? Do they run badly? I'm just curious if they were doing just a mobile port of XI, then the gouging they do in their own games wouldn't apply.

Yes, honestly unless they actually hand over things from SE to Nexon, I wouldn't think much of it (at this point.)

However, if the "future" of FFXI is both a MMMRPG version of FFXI along with Grandmasters mobile app, then a cash-shop F2P system will likely be the implemented model to facilitate them, just as a guess.

But yes, certain devs (like Codemasters in the UK or Turbine or Level Up Games in the PI) license out from original developers to host certain localised versions of IP's (that's why they showed the various 'locations' for Nexon, I would think, to show which regions it currently hosts) so I get the impression that is the direction the mobile SE properties will go (with Nexon hosting those servers and running those localised versions of whatever apps.)
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By Carbuncle.Kurosawa 2015-03-19 03:06:48
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Well, I'll keep playing through the add-ons at least. I play on a 360 because I'd rather use my laptop to play music and it's kind of a piece of crap. So I'll stick around until next March, then I'll decide.
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By Bahamut.Aquatic 2015-03-19 03:07:38
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Ps2 + Xbox360

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By Shiva.Siviard 2015-03-19 03:08:01
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I really don't know what to think of all this.

FFXI on mobile? Nexon? I literally went from optimism to BLEGH as soon as I saw Nexon.
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By Cerberus.Onvasquez 2015-03-19 03:09:49
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Ok so I am seeing on http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/46414-Conference-Digest that * At present, the game is scheduled for release in Japan only. If i go to Japan can I download the game? Or how does it all work?
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By Heimdel 2015-03-19 03:09:54
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Sylph.Elwynbelwyn said: »
FFXIV debuts... it's the end of FFXI!
Mobile ***debuts... it's the end of FFXI!

Prediction: die-hard PC players will still be paying SE's bills as the mobile ***flops hard.

Thing is people don't realize how much 14 did put 11 at risk. Not because being a new game but because the company took such a blow financially from it. It essentially knocked it from being basically a billion dollar company to being not much farther than some smaller/indie developers for a while. They just can't seem get their heads right on how to run the company. Some say it has been that way since square and enix merged because square took a really bad deal for it giving up almost all say.
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By Asura.Twillin 2015-03-19 03:10:12
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I had hoped to find something in that announcement that would get me excited to play more than just a few hours a week... Instead it kinda talked me into just quitting
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2015-03-19 03:10:20
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Nexon is just doing the mobile client that will talk to the XI servers and be a way to remotely play the game, people need to calm down. Nexon is not touching the game design/balanace.
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By mortontony1 2015-03-19 03:10:23
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I feel like botting/duping/w/e will become more widespread and fewer if any bans after the 'main updates' stop in 2016.
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By Fenrir.Celdwn 2015-03-19 03:12:18
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will cheats work on mobile devices? woops there goes the NA player base.
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By Mookies 2015-03-19 03:14:52
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I hope the last 3 battle addons have abyssea level content otherwise it's going to be a lackluster ending to a great game.
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