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By Cerberus.Warviper 2014-10-07 04:28:42
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Bismarck.Stanislav said: »
Ifrit hits hard as *** lol. Doesn't help I went in on firesday. Cleared it but no drops on Normal. Going to attempt D now.

Stanislav did you solo it / dualbox it on N? or went with team?
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By Odin.Phunkism 2014-10-07 04:30:08
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Summoned a few pets to see what the acc difference was before and after patch.

Generous Arthur

ilvl 119 before: 783
ilvl 119 after: 867

Rhyming Shizuna

ilvl 119 before: 783
ilvl 119 after: 867

Warlike patrick

ilvl 119 before: 796
ilvl 119 after: 880

Amiable Roche

ilvl 119 before: 793
ilvl 119 after: 877

Looks like an increase of 84 acc.
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By Areayea 2014-10-07 04:33:05
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just did atomos fight he's not too bad it's a dragon and gallu type mob, the dragon dooms but I went in with a party of 4. not too bad and got both rewards at once.
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By Crevox 2014-10-07 04:33:56
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I'll paste from the summoner thread, cause the info is being compiled here...

Avatar's Favor still drops tiers when you use Blood Pacts, and it still has to build up over time. There is no penalty on avatar stats, and the potency is the same as before. There doesn't seem to be any increase in perp cost? In -14 perp gear, nothing changes when I turn it on and off, despite the in-game description being updated to state there is an increase.

Apogee increases Blood Pact MP cost by 50% in exchange for making the recast for the next Blood Pact zero. Recast is, as stated, 5 minutes.

Avatar base accuracy with 119 Sachet (Seraphicaller) and no other equipment is now 875.

As for unlocking Atomos, just go to Walk of Echoes in Xarcabard. You will be directed to the Walk of Echoes in Grauberg. There, you have to do a fight against a dragon and a gallu. I duo'd it with another summoner with no trouble at all.

Atomos takes the regular amount of time to cast, requires a target, costs 50 MP, and cannot be summoned with any other avatar already out. His recast is affected by the standard things. Upon appearing, after his initial animation, he will instant cast an ability called "Deconstruction" on the target, and will actually aggro mobs if they currently have no target (if you pull with him). After a short animation, he will use Chronoshift, which will give that effect to everyone nearby, and then disappear. If you are too far, you will not receive the effect he stole.
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By Bismarck.Stanislav 2014-10-07 05:14:50
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Cerberus.Warviper said: »
Bismarck.Stanislav said: »
Ifrit hits hard as *** lol. Doesn't help I went in on firesday. Cleared it but no drops on Normal. Going to attempt D now.

Stanislav did you solo it / dualbox it on N? or went with team?

SAM SAM WHM BRD
March March Scherzo Carol2
Barfira Shellra5 Protectra5 Boost-STR

Had to fulltime Hybrid set on SAM. Flaming crushes were rocking me (multi hit so scherzo don't do shiet if first hit doesn't do over 1k)

JAs were procing Blue !!, Spells were procing Yellow !!, WS were procing red !!. It was all random and I've proc'd several within seconds. The system is pretty *** imo.
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By Santi 2014-10-07 05:19:22
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New Happo Shuriken uses Waktza Rostrum to make 33~ have fun ninja's~ Smithing

What's the recipe?
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By Crevox 2014-10-07 05:24:36
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Entrust allows a second indi on a party member, allowing you to run:

Indi, Entrust-Indi, GEO

...all at the same time. Also, you can use Entrust, pop an indi on someone, and then leave party. They will keep it.

I can only imagine the fun out of party strats people are going to do like they already do with bard.
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By TheRealGoat 2014-10-07 06:01:39
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inc. indi haste for the pt from an outside Geo mule for every BC fight
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-10-07 06:05:47
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Garuda hits hard as hell too. 300-400 with 300-400 enwind.

THF+WHM, all the usual buffs + gelusx2 put me at 245 wind resistance, all but one magic attack did 100 or less. Need about 1000acc for N. Would have been cake if her melee attacks weren't wrecking my face.
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By Bismarck.Stanislav 2014-10-07 06:12:05
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Ok so I tried difficult Ifrit 4boxing SAM, WHM, COR, THF, and BRD friend.
Buffs were March March Scherzo Carol 2 Magus Roll and Chaos Roll(should've went with Hunters). Used mid-hybrid set fulltime and was doing fine.
Whenever it was casting I casted dia or friend casted Elegy and it seemed to proc yellow everytime which caused it to stop casting. As it's health went down it seemed that his evasion was going up. It was hard to get it down from 50,% but I was lacking buffs. Seems doable with melee, but I can see PLD/RNG strat being the easy way out. Having proper MDT/PDT sets would be key if you're going melee route. You have more than enough time to switch to PDT/MDT from normal TP gear. Too tired now to get more merits and try it some more. Will try later today.
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By Crevox 2014-10-07 06:12:33
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Sounds like you either go PLD or bring a GEO with Indi-Wilt and good to go.
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By Bismarck.Stanislav 2014-10-07 06:14:42
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Crevox said: »
Sounds like you either go PLD or bring a GEO with Indi-Wilt and good to go.

A good group can melt it down melee style no problem I would assume. Just have the proper buffs. Oh and elevation won't work.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-10-07 06:44:19
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Not a fan of the single KI that can be used for any of the new avatar battles.
Would have liked a KI per battlefield so I could have 1 KI for each avatar stored, and be sitting on capped merits to do x2 more of whatever one.
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-10-07 06:54:54
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Doesn't seem like any must have items. Not a big fan of doing 10 -20 fights and end up with nothing like ouryu. back to tree spamming for Gil to make daurabla 99.
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By Odin.Ceas 2014-10-07 07:28:57
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Looks like we're not getting any Exp/CP from WoE... hope it's just a bug...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-07 07:32:21
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Anyone doing any .dat mining?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2014-10-07 07:45:26
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Chimerawizard said: »
Absolutely loving Entrust.
Entrust a DD some indi.
Thow up normal indi & geo spells.
watch the enemy melt.

So, entrust is exactly as I described in the last thread? Great! 2/2 on GEO predictions. Be back in two weeks to have some fun!
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By Skjalfeirdotter 2014-10-07 07:47:54
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Coalrake sabots dropped off Ifrit on Normal.
We got lots of procs including white proc.




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By Ragnarok.Garota 2014-10-07 07:55:32
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Anyone doing any .dat mining?
What I found in BG 10/7/2014 Update! Findings/Discussion. Details seem incomplete so far, but info is taken from a Japanese site.

Mantle Rare,Ex,DEF13 STR+5 DA+4%/Fire Weather:ATK+20 WAR MNK RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC RUN

Gloves Rare,Ex,DEF89 HP+45 MP+20 STR+11 DEX+35/VIT+32 AGI+5 INT+12 MND+30 CHR+17/ATK+15 MATK+15 EVA+24 MEVA+37 MDEF+2/Haste+5% Enmity+5 DA+2% MNK THF BST RNG NIN BLU COR PUP DNC RUN

Cuisses Rare,Ex,DEF125 HP+112 STR+35 VIT+21 AGI+16/INT+25 MND+12 CHR+10 ACC+17 EVA+22/MEVA+64 MDEF+3 Haste+5% Enmity+7/Counter+3 WAR PLD DRK

Sabots Rare,Ex,DEF64 HP+13 MP+14 STR+10 DEX+11/VIT+10 AGI+33 INT+17 MND+19 CHR+38/EVA+55 MEVA+107 MDEF+5 Haste+3%/Song Casttime-8% Song Recast-5 Regen+1 WHM BLM RDM BRD SMN BLU SCH GEO

Greaves Rare,Ex,DEF83 HP+15 STR+14 DEX+16 VIT+15/AGI+38 MND+11 CHR+28 ACC+20 EVA+52/MEVA+80 MDEF+3 Haste+4% DA+2%/Jump TP Bonus+40 WAR PLD DRK BST DRG

Torque Rare,Ex,MP+20 ACC+5 MACC+7 Fast Cast+4% ALLJOBS

Sash Rare,Ex,Automaton:ACC+15 RACC+15 MACC+15/Haste+5% Fast Cast+5% PUP

Sash Rare,Ex,STR+4 AGI+9 RATK+15 Rapid Shot+3 RNG COR

Earring Rare,Ex,AGI+2 RATK+4 STP+4 ALLJOBS

Earring Rare,Ex,CHR+4/Pet:Haste+3% Enmity+5 Damage Taken-1% ALLJOBS

Ring Rare,Ex,HP+30 MP+30 VIT+5 ACC+7 Enmity+5 ALLJOBS

Ring Rare,Ex,MP+40 Enmity-5 Cure Potency+3%/Quick Magic+2% ALLJOBS

Claws 99 119 Rare Ex D+100 De+60 DEX+12 INT+12 R.Ice+25 Acc+20 H2HSkill+242 GuardSkill+242 MaccSkill+188 SC Bonus+5 Addaralyze WAR MNK RDM THF DRK BST NIN PUP DNC

Dagger 99 119 Rare Ex D95 De183 AGI+15 ACC+27 ATK+15 EVA+27 DagSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 WindAtk+15 SubtleBlow+8 Add:Silence WAR BLM RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG SMN SCH GEO

Sword 99 119 Rare Ex D110 De236 STR+15 R.Fire+25 Acc+20 SwordSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 FireAtk+15 Add:FireDam WAR THF DRK BST RNG SAM BLU

Flueret 99 119 Rare Ex D119 De224 ACC+27 MACC+15 MDAM+90 EVA+13 SwordSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 EnhMagSkill+10 EnfMagSkill+10 MaccSkill+188 OccultAcumen+30 WAR RDM PLD BRD DRG COR DNC

Sword 99 119 Rare Ex D273 De504 VIT+8 INT+13 ACC+15 ATK+26 GSwordSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 Spinning Slash:Damage+35% PLD DRK RUN

Axe 99 119 Rare Ex D156 De288 AGI+15 ACC+15 AxeSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 DA+2% Crit+1% WAR DRK BST RUN

Amood 99 119 Rare Ex D274 De504 STR+10 MND+15 ATK+15 GAXSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 Zanshin+5 WAR

Fork 99 119 Rare Ex D275 De507 Acc+15 PolearmSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 SpiritLink+30 Wyvern:Regen+2 PDT-3% DRG

GKT 99 119 Rare Ex D258 De480 STR+15 ATK+25 GKTSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 Firesday:DA+5% SAM

Cudgel 99 119 Rare Ex D142 De278 VIT+15 INT+6 MND+6 ACC+27 ClubSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 Enmity+6 PDT-10% Add:EarthDam ALLJOBS

Rod 99 119 Rare Ex D156 De288 INT+6 MND+21 MATK+16 MDam+124 ClubSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+215 CurePot+16% Aquaveil+1 CureCastTime-5% WHM BLM SMN SCH GEO

Staff 99 119 Rare Ex D198 De366 DEX+20 INT+22 MND+12 MATK+28 MDam+200 StaffSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+228 ConserveMP+3 Add:LightningDam WAR MNK WHM BLM RDM BST BRD SMN SCH GEO

Staff 99 119 Rare Ex D190 De366 MP+100 StaffSkill+242 ParrySkill+242 MaccSkill+188 Avatar:Macc+20 Matk+120 Enmity+10 SMN

Gun 99 119 Rare Ex D103 De548 DEX+5 AGI+5 RACC+27 MarksSkill+228 Enmity-3 Recycle+10% LightningDam+15 THF RNG NIN COR

Bolt 99 115 D100 De192 RACC+10 Add:DEFDown WAR THF DRK RNG

Bullet 99 115 D220 De240 RACC+10 RATK+5 THF RNG NIN COR

Fuma Shuriken 60 0 D72 De192

Iga Shurken 80 0 D80 De192 RACC+10

Roppo Shuriken 99 107 D71 De192 ATK+12 RACC+3 ThrowSkill+81

Roppo Shuriken+1 99 108 D72 De188 ATK+13 RACC+4 ThrowSkill+94

Happo Shuriken 99 117 D98 De192 ACC+5 ATK+5 RACC+10 ThrowSkill+215 Crit+1%

Happo Shuriken+1 99 118 D99 De188 ACC+6 ATK+6 RACC+11 ThrowSkill+228 Crit+2%

Hachiya Shuriken 99 117 Ex D90 De192 RACC+5 ThrowSkill+215

Suppa Shuriken 99 117 Ex D92 De192 HP+30 ThrowSkill+215

Togakushi Shuriken 99 119 Ex D104 De192 VIT+3 AGI+3 ACC+5 ATK+5 RACC+10 ThrowSkill+242

Sachet 99 0 Rare Ex HP+15 MACC+5 Enmity-2 ALLJOBS

Stone 99 0 Rare Ex STR+3 INT+5 ATK+10 ALLJOBS

Grip 99 0 Rare Ex MP+10 INT+3 MND+3 CHR+3 MACC+5 ALLJOBS

Grip 99 0 Rare Ex STR+6 VIT+3 STP+3 ALLJOBS
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-10-07 07:57:52
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Lakshmi.Treyenma said: »
Well Trust: Lilisette is worse than the other two Dancer trusts. It's a shame, but she's basically just a melee trust like so many other mostly useless trusts.

Probably okay for low levels, but no value for roaming around at 99+.

Figures. The most wanted Trust, and probably the most disappointing. Is it really so hard to just make her like the Lilisette from the WotG battlefields?
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-10-07 07:58:39
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those are kinda cool boots if you are fan of /brd for lowman voidwatch or lolabyssea proccing
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2014-10-07 08:05:22
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Thinking about this step update, with Terpsichore I can generate 40 FMs/min while building steps with optimal efficiency (38/min average).

I can spend the most Flourishes/minute by using:
Flourishes I: 4 FM/min (2x Animated)
Flourishes II: 18 FM/min (6x Building)
Flourishes III: 4 FM/min (2x Striking)

What do I do with the extra 12 FM/min? Even without Terpsichore I'd only exactly be able to spend the number of FMs I'd make.

I guess I just have to conclude that SE wants Step recast to be a total non-issue now. They don't want it to be something that limits our playstyle. Other than that, this change is pretty inconsequential.
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By Pantafernando 2014-10-07 08:14:23
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Those gloves with matk supose its mab?

I think we missed a mab gloves for elemental ws? Its a good news.
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By Phoenix.Kaoriasada 2014-10-07 08:17:31
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Have they even acknowledged the glitch with T5 in Yorcia Weald delve in previous updates? It wasn't mentioned in the notes, I know it hasn't been fixed, and it seems like it's a bigger deal than some of the updates that were done or the things that were mentioned as being problematic. /sigh
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By Pantafernando 2014-10-07 08:18:53
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I remember dev saying something about the dificulty of obtaining ormolu ingot, that they wouldnt add more ways to obtain that but they would add recipe to ease a but the skilling process for goldsmith. So, any new recipe for gold was found?
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By Heimdel 2014-10-07 08:21:31
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Cudgel 99 119 Rare Ex D142 De278 VIT+15 INT+6 MND+6 ACC+27 ClubSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 Enmity+6 PDT-10% Add:EarthDam ALLJOBS

I could see using this with genbu shield for front line geo replacing earth staff. Adds soem extra earth stats and maybe even try to mellee some.
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By Bismarck.Herzins 2014-10-07 08:26:37
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Valefor.Sapphire said: »
yeah /Dnc gets 5 second cooldown on steps with this update (just tested with Rdm/dnc).

RIP dynamis ever having enough JA monsters.

Kraken club has never been more awesome now for dyna job combos that can use it since its tp generation capability to keep up with 3x stepping rate is very nice and also tp gen for burst ws'ing.

Dynamis currency prices might go down again XD I'm ok with that haha.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2014-10-07 08:35:36
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Heimdel said: »
Cudgel 99 119 Rare Ex D142 De278 VIT+15 INT+6 MND+6 ACC+27 ClubSkill+228 ParrySkill+228 MaccSkill+188 Enmity+6 PDT-10% Add:EarthDam ALLJOBS I could see using this with genbu shield for front line geo replacing earth staff. Adds soem extra earth stats and maybe even try to mellee some.


Yeah, I thought of this, but wish it was /ex only, so we could dual wield it and /dnc. Would make for a hell of a damage build.

However, for close-up superbuffing (2 Indi/1 GEO), it looks like a great addition to PDT up close set, for the non-Idris GEO. Or if you're just meleeing, its cool too.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-10-07 08:38:55
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Thinking about this step update, with Terpsichore I can generate 40 FMs/min while building steps with optimal efficiency (38/min average).

I can spend the most Flourishes/minute by using:
Flourishes I: 4 FM/min (2x Animated)
Flourishes II: 18 FM/min (6x Building)
Flourishes III: 4 FM/min (2x Striking)

What do I do with the extra 12 FM/min? Even without Terpsichore I'd only exactly be able to spend the number of FMs I'd make.

I guess I just have to conclude that SE wants Step recast to be a total non-issue now. They don't want it to be something that limits our playstyle. Other than that, this change is pretty inconsequential.
What do you feel is worth incurring JA delay for if your group can live without you incurring dps loss to cap steps?
I do alot of bc on Difficult with dancer and buffs are pretty heavy so it feels like anything but boxstep to feed my own FM/Flourish needs to self sc or pull tp for AM3 isnt needed.

For most fight I parse the best when I just focus on maintaining AM3 and don't step/flourish unless my RF is off cooldown to self skillchain.

Sometimes I do a random stacked rudra like this where I bunch up a bunch of JA use at one time:
have 3+ FM's already->Climactic->Presto->Feather Step->Building->Rudra's.
I usually do this before I need to build back to 3k tp to refresh AM3.
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By Asura.Yunamae 2014-10-07 08:46:19
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So is it offical no exp or capacity points from walk of echoes now, as alot of times u can do 10 in row and get crap in all and without even given u some exp for your 1k seems a bit crap....

I was doing the surges for +1 stuff, but mainly to get me blu points to so not much point now if i have a pay 1k a pop and get nothing for it if rubbish in the box.....
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