What's The Top 5 Mythic's?

I'll be the first person to tell you that this game is all about perception, but I do believe you are comparing apples and oranges, with your poor weapon analogy. I also believe the most popular mythics list underscores the "best" mythic. Why? I personally define "best" as the "best" relative augment for its job.

Considering how every single PLD rushed Aegis when there was no reason to and how many PLDs rushed Burtgang when there was no reason to, believing that just because X idiots built Y item a thousand times makes the item good, means that you do not even bother understanding the actual use of the item and blindly build it because "it cannot be wrong, everyone is building it! Though I have no idea why I'm building it". You therefore will not understand when someone will tell you "your gear is utter garbage", because in your mind "omg I have the item that most players build! how can I have a bad build? this dude is jealous!", which is obviously wrong.



All of this just to go back to having a laugh at your initial post and to say that you are a bad player just based on your vision and understanding of the game that you expose in this very thread.



Sure, FFXI has changed in such a way that you'd have to be seriously mentally impaired to build any job wrong so based on nowadays items, people like you have an easy life. However, if we start talking about items that have data mainly based on pre-Adoulin content, you just make a fool out of yourself by following the logic you follow.

I won't respond to anything you've said directly, because you're argument is turning into a biased attack, which serves no credible purpose, only to attempt to damage my credibility.

On to the topic at hand: If the popular mythics list is wrong, maybe there are some hidden use cases for weapons at the bottom of the list? A friend of mine is making a Vajra for SATA augments, will offhand a Twashtar. He expects to do 10k+ Rudra's Storm in this situation.

Even if this is possible, why haven't other THFs attempted this? My answer would be, because the player base has concluded that it is either (a) not worth the effort or (b) probably a terrible weapon.

Now I do believe, every job has a situation where it's mythic can be best utilized. For some jobs, not so much. I think this is visible in the mythics list.

It's probably more viable to look at the CURRENT mythics, not necessarily based on what jobs are the flavor of the month, but moreso to eliminate the 75 versions that were owned by retired players and built in an age of 3K alex when there weren't many other comparable weapons. Burtgang is an amazing piece for PLD, and though atonement hasn't weathered well, it's utility is timeless, for example.

Boy am I glad my wife has yagrush and carn...Im covered! Rest doesnt matter to me!

DAMN BUDDY BREATHE ITS OKAY... If you don't know the best mythic out there just make something you will be proud of after you done, personal experience.... No one knows your pain while doing mythic except you :D Pointless arguments when game about to shut down ^^ Go enjoy summer guys get out those dark basements :P

People sometimes make stupid things, e.g. Claustrums built before Novemberish last year (I think the 119 is okayish? Not going to bother looking into it.)

Also your friend's plan is kind of derpy >_>;

What happened? they found out it still suck, sometime it's better to let people do whatever they want :D Free world boss

A little off topic, but....

I'm not going to lie, I kind of want to see a gastrephetes rng in action.

brd mythic should be the #1 on the list, hands down.

if we're talking about how you want to rank mythics in proportion to the classes that use them get the most out of them, not how you look at the classes themselves, then why is terpsichore not on anyone's list, including byrth's?

have they turned around and made it absolute ***? because last i checked terpsichore did wonders for dnc.

A rank list thread devolving into a pissing contest. Nobody saw that coming.

It may well do, just like I did Burtgang for pld but it still didn't feature on my list of top 5.

You can only play 1 job at a time on 1 character, so doing multiple mythics for jobs that fill the same role makes their benefit to each individual different.

In the case of DNC, its great for the job but the job isn't great.

that was kind of my point, i thought this was a ranking of how well if affected the job, not about how well the job ranks with it.

It is a backward way of looking at things though.

Either you make a mythic for utility of that job with the mythic, if you have multiple it would change based on what you already have.

Or you make a mythic because you enjoy x or y job, in which case it becomes a question of whether that mythic is worth making at all.

Though the effect is a great one, it is far from
Job changing. Mythics gain exponential value when they allow them to fill spots or do things otherwise impossible. Example being yagrush, burtgang, ryu(in that it can dd effectively lol), epeoletry most likely, and so forth.

It depends which list you are making. I enjoy Carnwenhan as much for its DD properties as for the extra minute or two on songs. Boom! Mordant Rime. Bard is very useful, and Bard with Carn is even more useful. It would definitely make a "most useful to your friends" list.

I enjoy Terpsichore too, and it really helps DNC+ DNC is well suited to maintain AM3. Trance, No Foot Rise, Reverse Flourish, Grand Pas. Still, though, the job is not useful with or without it. It would not make a "most useful to your friends" list even though it is very useful to the job.


Now I am making Laev. Given BLM's irrelevance in current content and SCH's kind of all-around superiority, I doubt this mythic will be useful for my friends or myself....but I started as a black mage and played the job for years, dammit!

Lol agreed. Other than unboring ourselves with this game, true discussions on what's best is pointless. The answers are always either a pointless or b obvious. Only true good questions are for the up and comers (in ffxi geekness not really skill).

Making the assumption that the majority of players even realize they could crank out those kind of numbers is your first mistake.

You would not believe how many players sit there and just gear on what they see other people using, they don't even use the stickied guides, or try to see whats current.

When your fiend makes his Rudra combo, let me know, I bet if I get him in a party he will out damage the Bandwagon players by a fair amount because he seems to have put some thought into it.

Further more "most popular mythics list" is a Very flawed basis for you assumption.

Day 1 75 CAP Mythics released.
Everyone makes a KKK - idk just because? (2000 players per server and like 20+ servers?_
Current day
Everyone makes a Ryu (600 players a server and 12 servers ?)

That would in theory put KKK ahead as "best" by your logic when in actual fact, by todays standards KKK is rather useless.

I'm not saying the list is wrong but it is far from a guide for the best because its popular.

What's the most popular job (Assume numbers of employed in said job as that's effectively the same quantification method you just used for best mythic)? Does that mean its the best? Retail Shaop Assistance is the best job in the world? Dear god I hope not.

my apologies then, i was assuming that the ranking was how well it affects the job regardless of how useless the job is anyways.

Idk why everybody has said that the thread isn't about usefulness to the job... that is clearly the OP's question lol

The Top 5 Mythic's of all time are: Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan. Because he spits Hott Fire!

The Mythic I have/Want is the best mythic!

am I doing it right?

I'm sorry Felgarr but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. Kind of the attitude as too why I disagree with most from Asura"Legends" and that's because this is a video game. A form of entertainment. It is fine if you want to treat FFXI as your career and that is your way of entertainment... But if someone likes RDM and wants a Murg, hell they should make that thing and enjoy it! They shouldn't let a bunch of snobs tell them its not as relevant as Yag or w.e.

People should have this attitude...


Anyways in the end I think if someone is asking the question of this thread then they want the kind of answer you are giving them Felgarr.


So true.

I fail to see how the Ls AsuraLegends has anything to do with this discussion and why it was even important to mention in a mythic weapon thread. Everyone has opinions on mythic weapons,fact is the best mythic is the one that makes you happy.

im building the crossbow and there's nothing you can do to stop me tbh

In general, disagreing/discussing about individual subjective opinions/taste is pointless, to not to say dumb.

Hey, people did BLM/SMN Relic staff @75, do what floats your boat, lol