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 Lakshmi.Cledant
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2014-02-24 09:56:22
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I'm pretty sure FFXI is making more money then FFXIV, so ya..
NET income no
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By fonewear 2014-02-24 09:57:19
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I'm no mathematician but I would think XIV would have a larger population.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-02-24 10:11:03
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eslim said: »
I'm pretty sure FFXI is making more money then FFXIV, so ya..
I'm not going to share my source but FFXI is pretty much dead compared to FFXIV, at every single level.

If there is something beyond life support and before death, that's where FFXI is. And it's going deeper and deeper each passing month. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy with 50 characters was easily 20% of the FFXI active population.

As for this thread's question, I would simply drink a glass of mint syrup and browse my screenshot folders before alt tabbing back to FFXIV or LoL.
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By fonewear 2014-02-24 10:12:57
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So you are telling me FFXI is a metaphor for right to life issues ?

At what point should they pull the Windows 95 server power cord.
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By Bismarck.Vasch 2014-02-24 10:21:16
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Hmm... I suppose i'd start chipping away at my 500+ game backlog on Steam.
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By fonewear 2014-02-24 10:23:21
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500 games see you in ten years.
 
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2014-02-24 10:34:33
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Ffxi will do "ok"| when SE merges all those empty servers. But the game is suffering so much atm, because ff14 have a lot of marketing, on top of that the ps4 version is coming out on march?. It will spoil so many japanese and US players, eventually ffxi will end up like lineage2 or tera .ect (dead empty with 1 or 2 servers only). Sooner than expected.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-02-24 10:46:47
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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eslim said: »
I'm pretty sure FFXI is making more money then FFXIV, so ya..
I'm not going to share my source but FFXI is pretty much dead compared to FFXIV, at every single level.

If there is something beyond life support and before death, that's where FFXI is. And it's going deeper and deeper each passing month. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy with 50 characters was easily 20% of the FFXI active population.

As for this thread's question, I would simply drink a glass of mint syrup and browse my screenshot folders before alt tabbing back to FFXIV or LoL.

Pretty sure he meant XI has been pure profit for a while for SE and is also the most profitable final fantasy of all time, while 14 will probably need a decade before they make up for the original launch disaster.
He either cannot make proper sentences or people understanding it this way have reading comprehension issues. He says "FFXI is making more money than FFXIV". "Is making", meaning right now, currently. If we compare the current month or the current day, FFXIV is above in both situations.

FFXIV will most likely take a year at most to pay back the 1.0 fiasco at this pace, if only thanks to the RMT waves. People around here seriously underestimate the actual popularity of the game (I was probably the first surprised, though). It would also be foolish to ignore the potential Asian market that has yet to be exploited (if it is ever exploited, that is).

I'm not going to compare both games' actual quality, that's a matter of opinion.

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Ffxi will do "ok"| when SE merges all those empty servers. But the game is suffering so much atm, because ff14 have a lot of marketing, on top of that the ps4 version is coming out on march?. It will spoil so many japanese and US players, eventually ffxi will end up like lineage2 or tera .ect (dead empty with 1 or 2 servers only). Sooner than expected.
FFXI's main issue when it comes to keeping its playerbase is the fact that it has changed way too much. We went from a sidegrade MMO to a vertical MMO. They lost most of the core (people that would never leave) due to this change alone, but at the same time allowed to keep other people. The only issue is that in the end their bet made them lose more people than they gained.

TERA for example had a change too but it attracted more player than they lost, so it was a win/win at every level.

I do play the 2 others MMOs you talk about from time to time and they're way more populated than FFXI, way more active and this on more servers.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-02-24 11:15:43
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FFXIV will most likely take a year at most to pay back the 1.0 fiasco at this pace

Yes, I'm sure they will be profitable within one year for a game that took 8+ years of development. Japan is a great place where people work for free and servers are powered with magic.

They'll have to work really hard to retain their userbase. MMO market is very harsh right now and something like Elder's scroll online could just completely stop 14's growth.
Instead of using 8 years, why don't you use the exact money spent? Why are you not aware that the money used was what they can make up in one year?

Oh, I know why, and you know why, too. Let's leave it at that, shall we.

Wild Star will hurt FFXIV before ESO ever does. One is overrated and merely a result of "hype", the other is literally solid as a rock and is reaching a level of quality that the other will never reach despite all the money and hype pumped into it.
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By fonewear 2014-02-24 11:21:40
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
Ffxi will do "ok"| when SE merges all those empty servers. But the game is suffering so much atm, because ff14 have a lot of marketing, on top of that the ps4 version is coming out on march?. It will spoil so many japanese and US players, eventually ffxi will end up like lineage2 or tera .ect (dead empty with 1 or 2 servers only). Sooner than expected.

If felt like this before I quit last year. I would log on and the shouts were dead all day until JP prime time. It was at that point I had no desire to watch one of my favorite games slowly die.
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By Sylph.Kawar 2014-02-24 11:38:32
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Asura.Thebatman said: »
What would you do on the last day the servers were up?

Things I would do
- kill big bomb one last time (I farmed it like crazy when it was worth 3m+ a bomblet)
- be on THF in old school 75 armor (homam/turban)
- be in windy (home nation)
- do an old salvage zone
-kill morion worm
- use my cruor on brews (why not?)

Anyone else think of this? What would you do?
I would ether move over to 14 full time by force or 14 and wow full time by force to have something to fill the hours i play on 11


but last day most likely call out of work and spend the last day doing 6 man exp partys all day so i go out with a smile rather then worm partying.
 
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-02-24 11:53:50
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »

Wild Star will hurt FFXIV before ESO ever does. One is overrated and merely a result of "hype", the other is literally solid as a rock and is reaching a level of quality that the other will never reach despite all the money and hype pumped into it.

Said every MMO that has tried to ascend to WoW heights and sputtered its way to F2P. ESO is crap though, you're right there.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-02-24 11:56:15
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Instead of using 8 years, why don't you use the exact money spent? Why are you not aware that the money used was what they can make up in one year?

Go ahead and pull the numbers if you have them, you get all excited over a ~2 million userbase, when it took FFXI multiple years to become profitable with a 3-4 million userbase.
Different times, different niche, different playerbase. Also, you answered my previous question, you do have reading issues. I'm not excited, I'm merely stating a fact. If you have troubles mistaking an excited fanboy with what I have posted, you should probably not post on a forum to begin with.

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You're clueless, just let it go, I don't need any source for it to be obvious.

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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »

Wild Star will hurt FFXIV before ESO ever does. One is overrated and merely a result of "hype", the other is literally solid as a rock and is reaching a level of quality that the other will never reach despite all the money and hype pumped into it.

Said every MMO that has tried to ascend to WoW heights and sputtered its way to F2P. ESO is crap though, you're right there.
Oh yes, I have no doubt that most MMOs will end up the same way, I just don't like things that people masturbate on when they're only made of hype.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-02-24 12:02:03
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I agree with ESO being crap, but crap can be popular to casuals.

People will buy it expecting Skyrim 2 and get a rude awakening.
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By fonewear 2014-02-24 12:25:20
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Let's not forget the greatest MMO of all time Sims Online. (yes I did play it lol)
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-02-24 12:37:04
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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You're clueless, just let it go, I don't need any source for it to be obvious.

Yes I'm clueless, how dare I make comparisons between 2 mmo's which have incredibly similar launches, except one took twice as much development time.
I don't remember FFXI changing director/producer/needing the whole SE employee roster and so on within its first 2 years of existing. Everyone told Sundi that POL was ***, yet they didn't trash it in favor of another client.

And I'm forgetting a lot of stuff. Shiroi, pls.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-02-24 12:45:19
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Such a great way to let things calm down: calling the other person an idiot hours after the conversation stopped.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-02-24 12:46:42
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I agree with ESO being crap, but crap can be popular to casuals.

Clearly, as we've seen lol
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By Anna Ruthven 2014-02-24 13:03:34
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-24 13:04:22
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My roommate who plays WoW said if ESO was good he's quit WoW to play that.

Was hoping we could have converted him to 14 so I could get the BF to play more often, but oh well. D:
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By Sylph.Peldin 2014-02-24 13:07:19
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
FFXI's main issue when it comes to keeping its playerbase is the fact that it has changed way too much.
I disagree. I've watched successful MMO's lose their player base. I think it has more to do with real life changes than with current game design. If it were possible, I would tell you to look at the average age of FFXI players each year the game has been in existence. Many started playing this game back in high school/college. After school is over with, many people stop playing as their attention turns to careers, girls, boys, families, etc.

So I think what really happens to the majority, is that they just move on. They probably still play games, they just don't want to invest the kind of time that they used to in FFXI.

And I'm not saying that's everyone. I just think that's the majority. I know there are a lot of players that leave because they get dissatisfied with the game. And there are plenty of others that leave because they just get bored with the same game.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-02-24 13:20:34
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I thought I would miss the game it has been over a year since I quit. I wouldn't play again. When you are away that long you no longer miss it.
You certainly don't miss hating on XI every opportunity you can get, or [+]'ing anyone that does the same.
You clearly have issues with truly moving on.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-02-24 13:23:21
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You're perfectly right, most of us simply grew up, but what I meant by this comment is that this specific change made the thing much faster (just like Abyssea did or even other expansions for that matter, but less so with Abyssea). Like, I would probably still be playing as much as I used to 2 years ago if they kept it the same way, lots of people would be in the same boat (maybe slightly less as LoL already claimed me, but you get the point).

Instead, they did it suddenly and it pushed people away, huge amount of people, instead of slowly letting them drift away. The numbers before, at and after Adoulin release are so different, it's crazy.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-02-24 13:23:48
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
FFXI's main issue when it comes to keeping its playerbase is the fact that it has changed way too much.

I actually have to agree with this statement. When you go from a slower paced, more in depth game with side grade equipment to a game where it's just vertical progression, it loses the allure it once had with the players who wanted to "fine-tune" their characters.

That was the great thing about FFXI, most of the time not one set could be deemed greater than the others. Different combinations of gear could be more useful than others. It brought a sense of originality and customization that no other games offered with straight vertical progression.

The reasons why people won't play it anymore differ from person to person.. mine was just I didn't have enough time for it anymore to stay on several hours a day.
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