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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-08-15 12:10:26
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Everyday uses for a kraken club? Ones I can think of, I guess ninja in abyssea was good before updates now new weapons cream it, so I'm looking at maybe just proccing?
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By itchi508 2013-08-15 12:17:57
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I would think its turned into a Abysea proc weapon and or skill up tool. Its even usless in dyna as the new weapons are so ridiculously strong it be a loss if you where to use K club. Also since DC camps now are Incredibly easy, you can do large pulls on them w/o any issue.
Poor Kclub lol
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By Quiznor 2013-08-15 12:30:40
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I'm surprised there hasnt been a billion butthurt voices screaming "make it relevant at 99!!!"
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-08-15 12:35:39
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Hasn't it been a rank 1 mog bonanza prize for like 5 years running? I'd say it's about time it was irrelevant.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-08-15 12:38:01
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blue magic learning tp feed, maybe?
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-08-15 12:39:33
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
blue magic learning tp feed, maybe?
Alas, BLU was left off the sea monster club
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By Quiznor 2013-08-15 12:39:35
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
blue magic learning tp feed, maybe?

Ash,why do you try to hurt me so bad?!?!

edit: Beaten by loki-woki-maru one 1 of the 2 reasons I was pointing at
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-08-15 12:52:02
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Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
blue magic learning tp feed, maybe?
Alas, BLU was left off the sea monster club

Well.... that sucks.

Quiznor said: »

Ash,why do you try to hurt me so bad?!?!

The Banshee from Darby O' Gill & The Little People gave me nightmares as a child. I blame the Irish.

I was talking to Mick Zaford in Borderlands 2 last week. I thought of you.
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By Quiznor 2013-08-15 12:54:04
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
blue magic learning tp feed, maybe?
Alas, BLU was left off the sea monster club

Well.... that sucks.

Quiznor said: »

Ash,why do you try to hurt me so bad?!?!

The Banshee from Darby O' Gill & The Little People gave me nightmares as a child. I blame the Irish.

I was talking to Mick Zaford in Borderlands 2 last week. I thought of you.

If I had ever turned on my copy of borderlands 2 and gone passed the video menu to max everything out,I'd probably understand that :(
 
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By sorge74 2013-08-15 13:01:25
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Quiznor said: »
I'm surprised there hasnt been a billion butthurt voices screaming "make it relevant at 99!!!"

I was thinking that the other day. I think its cause the REM people bitching in fact just have lvl85 emps and had spent no money.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-08-15 13:03:07
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Or more because so few people had kclubs that no one gives a ***.
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By Quiznor 2013-08-15 13:04:07
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Or more because so few people had kclubs that no one gives a ***.

Not on ragnarok anyways >_> every 2nd person has one
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-08-15 13:19:15
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Or more because so few people had kclubs that no one gives a ***.

This is precisely the reason. K-clubs are nowhere near as common as relics and empyreans so you have vastly less people feeling "cheated". It's similar to mythics in that sense.
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-08-15 13:49:00
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Kclubs were a joke even when MoT came out. When some jobs could duel wield two four attack weapons.

I owned two Kclubs, but the fact seven jobs couldn't use them. Of thoseblu and geo can't use it. I did sell these for 120 and 140m back in the day.

What would you spam besides proc. Nothing. And now So clubs are out Kclub is worthless.

Goon your whm and tp spam Tojil or any Delve ob. Use it in COl reive and you doso little dmg you wont get bayld for it. But you can have the drk behnd you absorb t300 TP you feed it.

A Kclub comes nowhere to a REM. REM = a weapon skill unlock for a job. Kclub gives you no new weapon skill, no new JA, no magic spell like twilight cloak. It is outdated trash that a few people are willing to pay an overpriced amount of gil for.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-08-15 13:52:41
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Quiznor said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
blue magic learning tp feed, maybe?
Alas, BLU was left off the sea monster club

Well.... that sucks.

Quiznor said: »

Ash,why do you try to hurt me so bad?!?!

The Banshee from Darby O' Gill & The Little People gave me nightmares as a child. I blame the Irish.

I was talking to Mick Zaford in Borderlands 2 last week. I thought of you.

If I had ever turned on my copy of borderlands 2 and gone passed the video menu to max everything out,I'd probably understand that :(

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By Enuyasha 2013-08-15 13:54:30
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Kclubs were a joke even when MoT came out. When some jobs could duel wield two four attack weapons.

I owned two Kclubs, but the fact seven jobs couldn't use them. Of thoseblu and geo can't use it. I did sell these for 120 and 140m back in the day.

What would you spam besides proc. Nothing. And now So clubs are out Kclub is worthless.

Goon your whm and tp spam Tojil or any Delve ob. Use it in COl reive and you doso little dmg you wont get bayld for it. But you can have the drk behnd you absorb t300 TP you feed it.

A Kclub comes nowhere to a REM. REM = a weapon skill unlock for a job. Kclub gives you no new weapon skill, no new JA, no magic spell like twilight cloak. It is outdated trash that a few people are willing to pay an overpriced amount of gil for.
Honestly, i would think a Kclub in the offhand would boost your average DoT evaluations just because of the WS frequency...Joytoy did that for me when i was RDM/DNCering some bayld with Almace :<.

Shi, i've seen PLDs offhanding Kclub mainhanding Almace just wrecking ***in reives :<
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-08-15 14:05:18
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Enuyasha said: »
Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Kclubs were a joke even when MoT came out. When some jobs could duel wield two four attack weapons.

I owned two Kclubs, but the fact seven jobs couldn't use them. Of thoseblu and geo can't use it. I did sell these for 120 and 140m back in the day.

What would you spam besides proc. Nothing. And now So clubs are out Kclub is worthless.

Goon your whm and tp spam Tojil or any Delve ob. Use it in COl reive and you doso little dmg you wont get bayld for it. But you can have the drk behnd you absorb t300 TP you feed it.

A Kclub comes nowhere to a REM. REM = a weapon skill unlock for a job. Kclub gives you no new weapon skill, no new JA, no magic spell like twilight cloak. It is outdated trash that a few people are willing to pay an overpriced amount of gil for.
Honestly, i would think a Kclub in the offhand would boost your average DoT evaluations just because of the WS frequency...Joytoy did that for me when i was RDM/DNCering some bayld with Almace :<.

Shi, i've seen PLDs offhanding Kclub mainhanding Almace just wrecking ***in reives :<

As in real life, so in FFXI: take everything said by Obama with a grain of salt. Never take anything said on the internet as fact.
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By Enuyasha 2013-08-15 14:16:57
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Kclubs were a joke even when MoT came out. When some jobs could duel wield two four attack weapons.

I owned two Kclubs, but the fact seven jobs couldn't use them. Of thoseblu and geo can't use it. I did sell these for 120 and 140m back in the day.

What would you spam besides proc. Nothing. And now So clubs are out Kclub is worthless.

Goon your whm and tp spam Tojil or any Delve ob. Use it in COl reive and you doso little dmg you wont get bayld for it. But you can have the drk behnd you absorb t300 TP you feed it.

A Kclub comes nowhere to a REM. REM = a weapon skill unlock for a job. Kclub gives you no new weapon skill, no new JA, no magic spell like twilight cloak. It is outdated trash that a few people are willing to pay an overpriced amount of gil for.
Honestly, i would think a Kclub in the offhand would boost your average DoT evaluations just because of the WS frequency...Joytoy did that for me when i was RDM/DNCering some bayld with Almace :<.

Shi, i've seen PLDs offhanding Kclub mainhanding Almace just wrecking ***in reives :<

As in real lift, so in FFXI: take everything said by Obama with a grain of salt. Never take anything said on the internet as fact.
well, my opinion of empyreans in reives is a little skewed...i like having the ODD for evals...but then other people burst my bubbble with "BUTLOLYOUHAVEODDWITHTHEBASEDAMAGEOFDELVEWEAPONZLOLZYUSTEWPID" ._.'

Its prolly the same with Kclub...
 
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-15 14:55:34
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An entire page, and nobody mentioned the current, most powerful use of kraken club: RNG. Assuming you can actually hit the mob, kraken club is just as good now as it always was. The biggest issue now is the lack of skill on the club moving forward.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-08-15 15:08:30
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Bismarck.Helel said: »
An entire page, and nobody mentioned the current, most powerful use of kraken club: RNG. Assuming you can actually hit the mob, kraken club is just as good now as it always was. The biggest issue now is the lack of skill on the club moving forward.

You just answered your own question as to why no one mentioned ranger kclub with that bolded part lol.
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By Ragnarok.Ghishlain 2013-08-15 15:14:10
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Bismarck.Helel said: »
The biggest issue now is the lack of skill on the club moving forward.

This. Unfortunately, KClub has now lost its luster on anything relevant. Fun for pure weapon skill ownage for any pre-SoA content now since there is no ridiculous accuracy requirement. If a WHM has accuracy issues in current SoA content, then a RNG will have equally as much issues since the skill divide is something between 104 skill to 120 skill depending on Club merits or not. [EDIT - RNGs do get +60 ACC on their passives, so the divide isn't so bad]

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Goon your whm and tp spam Tojil or any Delve ob. Use it in COl reive and you doso little dmg you wont get bayld for it. But you can have the drk behnd you absorb t300 TP you feed it.

I am fairly certain if I could actually hit anything in Marjarmi with a KClub, I would get much more Bayld then I do now (I'd like to think my current Marjarmi average is about 6-8K a Colonization Reive if theres about 15 people there - don't quote me on that, I've never really took the time to calculate this). The increased WS frequency this weapon provides is immense. Hence why I wish the skill on weapons is a latent effect that provides full Attack + ACC buffs to both hands while its equipped on the main hand. It'd make KClub relevant all over again (Aside from the fact that it would also mean DW classes don't have to farm up TWO skill-weapons to be relevant)

And to be honest, TP spam the boss anyway since the rest of your alliance would be doing the same =p One extra WHM on Tojil isn't gonna make or break that fight for you~~
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By Fenrir.Deno 2013-08-15 15:48:24
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A WHM friend likes it for being able to throw out extra Mystic Boons, when he wants to melee in a party with a bunch of MP sink DD
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-08-16 13:32:24
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I'm glad this post got so much interest I wasn't sure if anybody else thought the same thing... My thing is just like BB this is just as hard to get as it always was and just as expensive. I would love to see something done about this... Like a quest it's used in to get a better one or a augment for skill+ and a little more damage or
Something. Idk the sad part is that would effect so few people like you guys mentioned that they don't really care...
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