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 Asura.Daemonarch
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By Asura.Daemonarch 2013-07-12 07:19:19
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Asura.Daemonarch said: »
if i wanted to play a highly populated game I'd play a newer, more popular game. Would i like to see the servers overflowing again like it was back in the day, yes. But this game is 11 years old...it is naturally gonna loser players because people getting burnt out, players that want a more modern game, or players growing up and having responsibilities in RL that get in the way of playing. People are growing out of/getting sick of this game faster than new players are signing up. Imo this is why you are seeing lower server populations.
You play a MMO to play alone? Your first sentence makes no sense, that's a great start.

In all seriousness, if you play FFXI to play with little to nobody, you should try FFXII instead.

Rest of your post is literally Masteroftheobvious.png.
I'm pretty sure i didn't say anything about playing alone....edited my post anyway though so even you can understand.... Hopefully
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-07-12 07:27:13
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Spiraboo said: »
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Not really relevant, but people still think cheating was needed to get NNI gear?
(if you still can't do it, I'll give you a gold medal.)

My group sometimes gets a pick up DD if one of our static DD didn't turn up, and if you have seen how some of them plays and imagine what happens if there's 6 of those guys in the team, you'd understand why they think you need to cheat to win.

You'd think they understood that they just sucked :<
I've been "on the top" for many years, but I always knew (and accepted) that there's loads of players that were way above me...(and I don't mean gear-wise, I just mean as great players)
You'd think when people struggle to even get to floor 80, they'd start to understand that they just suck >_>
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 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-12 07:47:48
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People rather be delusional.

I was watching some montage of DSP (some let's play guy on Youtube it seems, watch it, it's hilarious, especially if you have played MGS2/3) playing MGS2 and 3, failing at the game very badly in every possible way at every moment of the game and he was just blaming Kojima/the game over and over. At no point did he start doubting himself.

He even kept saying that the game didn't explain anything, when he would actually insult the game/not give a ***when it was explained.

I imagine the average FFXI player to be like this.
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By Sylph.Krsone 2013-07-12 07:49:59
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nibbets said: »
What
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
nibbets said: »
Could be everyone's trying out 14 right now so that's why server's are dead.
>logging off to play more than one game on your computer
>2013

Aqua is still #1 with "Barbie Girl" where you live?

Huh? Are you trying to insult me or something?


Asura.Daemonarch said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Asura.Daemonarch said: »
if i wanted to play a highly populated game I'd play a newer, more popular game. Would i like to see the servers overflowing again like it was back in the day, yes. But this game is 11 years old...it is naturally gonna loser players because people getting burnt out, players that want a more modern game, or players growing up and having responsibilities in RL that get in the way of playing. People are growing out of/getting sick of this game faster than new players are signing up. Imo this is why you are seeing lower server populations.
You play a MMO to play alone? Your first sentence makes no sense, that's a great start.

In all seriousness, if you play FFXI to play with little to nobody, you should try FFXII instead.

Rest of your post is literally Masteroftheobvious.png.
I'm pretty sure i didn't say anything about playing alone....edited my post anyway though so even you can understand.... Hopefully


@Senkyuutai : Why so mean? One person purely suggesting a reason ffxi might be on the supposed decline and you rip into them and the other was just expressing his opinion and you're all ok cpt obvious. You'll scare away new posters.

Id say what I thought on the topic but who really cares I guess.
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By Jepenepe 2013-07-12 15:24:45
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This has sure turned out to be an entertaining thread, thanks for making me laugh during maintenance. :)
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-12 15:31:39
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Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
It's becoming increasingly difficult to find Plasm shouts on Lakshmi the past week, there used to be at least one every hour. Now I see 1-2 a day, and I'm *** bored of sitting in town all day because I can't see Adoulin shouts on ffxiah.

Because once you start farming bosses, the need for plasm farm drops to zero leaving you with derps and herpaderps to group and do things with.

Like I said before, its like SE is intentionally trying to kill FFXI.
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By Siren.Taruina 2013-07-12 16:34:52
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Pretty certain that most NA/EU of Siren are in a constant state of Jimmies being rustled. It's not the most fun.
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By Leviathan.Starcade 2013-07-12 17:38:55
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Not really relevant, but people still think cheating was needed to get NNI gear?
(if you still can't do it, I'll give you a gold medal.)

Before the nerf, absolutely.

After the nerf, depends on the level of bayld/delve gear you got.

And as for the "wut?" person back there, it's Exactly What It Says On The Tim. If cheating to steal gear from Square-Enix is certainly on the up and up to you, what stops one from going to the next step and directly disrupt game/connection/computer/life?
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By somebodyloved 2013-07-12 17:40:05
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just saying....1,523 people on Asura this morning (CST 7 A.M.).

just saying
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-12 17:46:05
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
It's becoming increasingly difficult to find Plasm shouts on Lakshmi the past week, there used to be at least one every hour. Now I see 1-2 a day, and I'm *** bored of sitting in town all day because I can't see Adoulin shouts on ffxiah.

Because once you start farming bosses, the need for plasm farm drops to zero leaving you with derps and herpaderps to group and do things with.

Like I said before, its like SE is intentionally trying to kill FFXI.

Hilarious
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By Leviathan.Starcade 2013-07-12 17:49:30
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You really think, Draylo, that, sans the elite-level cheater players like yourself, that the writing isn't on the wall as far as a lot of people are concerned?

I mean, in another way, you are almost like what most people consider me as...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-12 17:52:31
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SE already stated they are adding content for low man and solo. Why people continue to rant on with their doomsday prophecies, I don't know. It seems they do it just to troll, so I'm laughing at it because that's all their word is worth. This update they just had is part one of two and they introduced a lot in it. Three new zones, two of them are huge and two new Naakuals with really good gear that any scrub can join and get after the mob dies.

I had a lot of fun exploring Yorica and seeing how crazy they made that zone, people are just bitching because they don't have friends to play with or an LS and they won't get off their lazy *** to make them or find one that suits them to join. Next update is only a month away and is going to introduce a lot more, play as a monster will be very interesting and fresh.
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-13 00:44:18
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Eijii said: »
few days ago Carbuncle was @566 for a good few hours.
now that's just extremely low
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 00:46:56
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That sounds like it was right after an emergency maint...
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-13 00:49:18
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
SE already stated they are adding content for low man and solo. Why people continue to rant on with their doomsday prophecies, I don't know. It seems they do it just to troll, so I'm laughing at it because that's all their word is worth. This update they just had is part one of two and they introduced a lot in it. Three new zones, two of them are huge and two new Naakuals with really good gear that any scrub can join and get after the mob dies.

I had a lot of fun exploring Yorica and seeing how crazy they made that zone, people are just bitching because they don't have friends to play with or an LS and they won't get off their lazy *** to make them or find one that suits them to join. Next update is only a month away and is going to introduce a lot more, play as a monster will be very interesting and fresh.
Updating the game with new zones or monsters won't get any players back to ffxi. The problem is that there is no server population to do events
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-07-13 00:50:48
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1625 on Ragnarok right now, only about an hour after maintenance.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 00:51:20
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New players return to ffxi all the time, there are threads here almost every week. This isn't meant to be a hugely populated game like WoW or others.
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-13 00:57:30
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I know but it's a very little that comes back /almost insignificant number, they eventually quit on a few months. But it's SE fault for keeping ps2 support, the game will never evolve, people get tired, Ffxi is still strong . It just need a merge and some marketing.

So many people quit because the new expan, there's no reason to quit just because R/E/M got shadowed
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-07-13 01:08:41
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
I'm still kinda in shock..So many people quit because the new expan, theres no reason to quit just because R/E/M got shadowed

Thats a huge reason to quit actually, which is why its happening. At the very least, deactivate for a while until SE comes through on some of their promises. When I deactivated in May 2012 I did so with the mentality of "I'll wait and see how Limbus 2.0 plays out, and then, at the latest, Salvage 2.0. If neither of those pan out, SOA, and if THAT doesn't pan out, well, quit."
There was no reason for me to pay SE for the 6 months of no content between Limbus 2.0 and Salvage 2.0. Just like there is no reason for those annoyed RME owners to pay SE again until that alleged "update" comes for them.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 01:36:20
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As said above, the truth is, I have seen around 20 new legit players in the past year (between december 2011 and June 2013). People that I met on forums and led to start the game.

Out of the 20, 0 are left. They all left either around lv 50 when AFs start or at lv 99 when they realize that they literally cannot do anything.
8 of them were before Adoulin and all went to 99. The 12 others started because of Adoulin and none of them went past Maat.

That's just an example, but seeing the amount of players going down this significantly, it can only mean that this trend is general.

Loving the game is one thing, being delusional is another. I love FFXI and would love to come back, but I do realize that the game right now has nothing to offer for 99% of the players and adding solo/low man content won't solve this.

Open your eyes.
By volkom 2013-07-13 01:39:10
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would you consider FFXI a hard PvE MMORPG compared to other games out on the market?
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 01:43:52
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Out of all the MMOs I have tried, it's the hardest and the least friendly toward new players (or players, at all).

I'm not much of a MMO hopper so I haven't tried that many, I'm sure some people can give better examples but GW 1/2, Aion, TERA, WoW, PSO and PSO2 were all much better when it comes to actually progress through levels.
You had decent quests, dungeons spam, proper curve all along. Few holes here and there, but nothing major, you would reach max level sooner or later and would be able to join lower difficulty dungeons and enjoy casual stuff on the side, you could enjoy the game without any chains.

FFXI's design can only work when you have a good amount of players, which it had always had issue to provide (even GoV are a chore for a new player, a big one, especially if used to quest/dungeon exping from other games). Endgame is great once you reach it, but reaching it really is far from pleasure nowadays.

And now with Adoulin, not only do people suffer just to reach the end, they suffer because they can't even take part in the endgame. They did a huge mistake toward new players.

1) New players don't know what to do, where to go
2) They have obstacles on the way, obstacles that became very hard to overcome with the advance of the game
3) People cannot grasp the gameplay during leveling and beat things like Maat on a whim
- Getting gud doesn't happen as easily as in the past
4) People cannot play with their old friends if those are doing proper endgame
- in other MMOs I always joined any run without issues rather fast and could help my guilds
5) The amount of people reaching endgame status and having a group for it is a minority, even veterans are so *** that they have to quit the game

This is why, imo, the RME stuff is ***. FFXI is dying because of many reasons, much more than the 5 I just gave here.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 01:44:35
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
As said above, the truth is, I have seen around 20 new legit players in the past year (between december 2011 and June 2013). People that I met on forums and led to start the game.

Out of the 20, 0 are left. They all left either around lv 50 when AFs start or at lv 99 when they realize that they literally cannot do anything.
8 of them were before Adoulin and all went to 99. The 12 others started because of Adoulin and none of them went past Maat.

That's just an example, but seeing the amount of players going down this significantly, it can only mean that this trend is general.

Loving the game is one thing, being delusional is another. I love FFXI and would love to come back, but I do realize that the game right now has nothing to offer for 99% of the players and adding solo/low man content won't solve this.

Open your eyes.

Opens our eyes to what? A lot of people still enjoy this game, no idea what you are trying to prove here. FFXI still has the same thing it always had to offer, nothing has really changed. They will be adding new things, you have to decide for yourself if its worth it. If I was a brand new player to this game, I would be like holy ***there's a TON of things to do in this game. I still feel that way every time I log in actually, there's tons of things I can do to work on and improve my characters.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 01:46:28
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
As said above, the truth is, I have seen around 20 new legit players in the past year (between december 2011 and June 2013). People that I met on forums and led to start the game.

Out of the 20, 0 are left. They all left either around lv 50 when AFs start or at lv 99 when they realize that they literally cannot do anything.
8 of them were before Adoulin and all went to 99. The 12 others started because of Adoulin and none of them went past Maat.

That's just an example, but seeing the amount of players going down this significantly, it can only mean that this trend is general.

Loving the game is one thing, being delusional is another. I love FFXI and would love to come back, but I do realize that the game right now has nothing to offer for 99% of the players and adding solo/low man content won't solve this.

Open your eyes.

Opens our eyes to what? A lot of people still enjoy this game, no idea what you are trying to prove here. FFXI still has the same thing it always had to offer, nothing has really changed. They will be adding new things, you have to decide for yourself if its worth it. If I was a brand new player to this game, I would be like holy ***there's a TON of things to do in this game. I still feel that way every time I log in actually, there's tons of things I can do to work on and improve my characters.
You aren't wrong but your blindness is amazing.

If you were a new player, you wouldn't install the game. That's where your blindness starts. You aren't being objective in the slightest, read my previous post.
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Wouldn't a new player have to have the game installed to play??
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 02:01:36
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That's the thing, the new player if he does some basic research (as they usually do on French forums, at least), will be discouraged because of the way the game is.

Of course, as a niche game, it will attract a certain kind of players such as ourselves, players who will see the challenge and try to conquer it.
These players will then reach the same status as most of us once they reach endgame. The problems do not disappear that easily, unfortunately.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-13 02:06:19
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That new player is reading the wrong material then. This game isn't hard to start up, its just time consuming but then again what MMO isn't.
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By nibbets 2013-07-13 02:49:24
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Sylph.Krsone said: »
nibbets said: »
What
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
nibbets said: »
Could be everyone's trying out 14 right now so that's why server's are dead.
>logging off to play more than one game on your computer
>2013

Aqua is still #1 with "Barbie Girl" where you live?

Huh? Are you trying to insult me or something?


Asura.Daemonarch said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Asura.Daemonarch said: »
if i wanted to play a highly populated game I'd play a newer, more popular game. Would i like to see the servers overflowing again like it was back in the day, yes. But this game is 11 years old...it is naturally gonna loser players because people getting burnt out, players that want a more modern game, or players growing up and having responsibilities in RL that get in the way of playing. People are growing out of/getting sick of this game faster than new players are signing up. Imo this is why you are seeing lower server populations.
You play a MMO to play alone? Your first sentence makes no sense, that's a great start.

In all seriousness, if you play FFXI to play with little to nobody, you should try FFXII instead.

Rest of your post is literally Masteroftheobvious.png.
I'm pretty sure i didn't say anything about playing alone....edited my post anyway though so even you can understand.... Hopefully


@Senkyuutai : Why so mean? One person purely suggesting a reason ffxi might be on the supposed decline and you rip into them and the other was just expressing his opinion and you're all ok cpt obvious. You'll scare away new posters.

Id say what I thought on the topic but who really cares I guess.

That's ok. It looks like his flag shows he's from France. If that's where I was from I'd be an arrogant *** too.
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By Cerberus.Dragonslayerone 2013-07-13 05:02:38
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SoA ruined so much other endgame stuff, most people I know have gone inactive or quit. Many are like me, watching to see if SE will fix this huge imbalance, or continue force feeding Seekers. Even after you blow through getting gear, clearing bosses, etc. Whats left? Theres nowhere else you can go to kill anything thats even a challenge or worth the time. The the variety of old endgame stuff, that was still viable, was what kept many people logging in every night tbh. I hope to have a reason to come back because I've enjoyed ffxi for years. Real ffxi players never quit, they just need time off! lol
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-13 05:04:36
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nibbets said: »
Sylph.Krsone said: »
nibbets said: »
What
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
nibbets said: »
Could be everyone's trying out 14 right now so that's why server's are dead.
>logging off to play more than one game on your computer
>2013

Aqua is still #1 with "Barbie Girl" where you live?

Huh? Are you trying to insult me or something?


Asura.Daemonarch said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Asura.Daemonarch said: »
if i wanted to play a highly populated game I'd play a newer, more popular game. Would i like to see the servers overflowing again like it was back in the day, yes. But this game is 11 years old...it is naturally gonna loser players because people getting burnt out, players that want a more modern game, or players growing up and having responsibilities in RL that get in the way of playing. People are growing out of/getting sick of this game faster than new players are signing up. Imo this is why you are seeing lower server populations.
You play a MMO to play alone? Your first sentence makes no sense, that's a great start.

In all seriousness, if you play FFXI to play with little to nobody, you should try FFXII instead.

Rest of your post is literally Masteroftheobvious.png.
I'm pretty sure i didn't say anything about playing alone....edited my post anyway though so even you can understand.... Hopefully


@Senkyuutai : Why so mean? One person purely suggesting a reason ffxi might be on the supposed decline and you rip into them and the other was just expressing his opinion and you're all ok cpt obvious. You'll scare away new posters.

Id say what I thought on the topic but who really cares I guess.

That's ok. It looks like his flag shows he's from France. If that's where I was from I'd be an arrogant *** too.
You're making your own kind look very smart with such comment, keep it up.
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