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By Dankdragon 2013-07-11 19:27:27
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What do you expect? Square Enix is horrible at managing their playerbase and adding new, sensible, content. When you ban all the players who actually care about your game... guess what? It dies. Just like their company is going to.
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By Leviathan.Starcade 2013-07-11 19:32:26
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Dankdragon said: »
What do you expect? Square Enix is horrible at managing their playerbase and adding new, sensible, content. When you ban all the players who actually care about your game... guess what? It dies. Just like their company is going to.

The problem is that the players/thieves/RMT it IS drawing in are part of the problem too.

They cater the wrong product to the wrong people.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-11 19:33:26
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Dankdragon said: »
What do you expect? Square Enix is horrible at managing their playerbase and adding new, sensible, content. When you ban all the players who actually care about your game... guess what? It dies. Just like their company is going to.

As if the game revolves around clowns like you. Hypocrites like you who accuse others of botting/hacking and then proceed to get themselves banned for the very same thing they accuse others of doing deserve it anyway.
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By Leviathan.Starcade 2013-07-11 19:37:38
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Siren.Knivesz said: »
Dankdragon said: »
What do you expect? Square Enix is horrible at managing their playerbase and adding new, sensible, content. When you ban all the players who actually care about your game... guess what? It dies. Just like their company is going to.

As if the game revolves around clowns like you. Hypocrites like you who accuse others of botting/hacking and then proceed to get themselves banned for the very same thing they accuse others of doing deserve it anyway.

But that's just it. This is why XI was basically put on the shelf and prepared to be taken out back and euthanised after the Salvage bans -- all the meaningful players (in the eyes of the playerbase) were exposed as thieves of the intellectual property of Square-Enix.

The game HAS revolved around *** clowns like that, and, failing action by Square-Enix, taking the law into one's own hands might be the only option left.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-07-11 19:42:38
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I dont think they would waste money on an expansion designed to kill the game. If they wanted to kill the game, they would just shut down the servers.

It's clear while SoA was designed to retain players the radical paradigm shift has scared off alot of people who put stock in the expansion saving FFXI. What has ensued is a confusing approach to balancing the game through shock 'n awe and promises that almost beg the player to desub or go play FFXIV.
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By Leviathan.Starcade 2013-07-11 19:51:09
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »

It's clear while SoA was designed to retain players the radical paradigm shift has scared off alot of people who put stock in the expansion saving FFXI. What has ensued is a confusing approach to balancing the game through shock 'n awe and promises that almost beg the player to desub or go play FFXIV.

Working as intended.
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By Carbuncle.Sterling 2013-07-11 20:20:00
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Person 1: I don't like FFXI anymore, its awful! You are all dumb for playing it! I am going to play FFXIV!

Person 2: I still like FFXI and your comments are dumb! I don't want to play FFXIV but you are here trying to convince me to, but I don't want to!

-Person 1 and Person 2 never change their opinions; continue to argue for eternity-
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-07-11 20:22:29
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Carbuncle.Sterling said: »
Person 1: I don't like FFXI anymore, its awful! You are all dumb for playing it! I am going to play FFXIV!

Person 2: I still like FFXI and your comments are dumb! I don't want to play FFXIV but you are here trying to convince me to, but I don't want to!

-Person 1 and Person 2 never change their opinions; continue to argue for eternity-

Person 3 - I don't play FFXI anymore, but I don't begrudge other people for playing it, and I am going to talk about SE and their business practices on this website until it goes offline.
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-07-11 20:24:36
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Today was the first time I did a /sea all and saw only 500 players. This was a few hours after mant.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-11 20:28:06
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People unable to come to a general consensus on a forum, shocking isn't it? I never would have figured that's for sure.
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By Sylph.Chrisstreb 2013-07-11 20:37:57
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I'd bet 50-75% of all server #s include afk people and bots/RMTs
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-07-11 21:15:46
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Please stop using the ff14 beta as an excuse for the low population.. It have been like that since 2012, it just got worse now. Serve merge needs to be done asap. Ffxi will need to go fp2 eventually, or else the game will dry out, people are tired of paying 13$ monthly for no content/extreme mindless plasm grinding. Doesn't worth it,

I know a lot of players that struggle paying 13$. that could be a big factor too, the game is not attractive atm.
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By Dankdragon 2013-07-12 00:32:56
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Siren.Knivesz said: »
Dankdragon said: »
What do you expect? Square Enix is horrible at managing their playerbase and adding new, sensible, content. When you ban all the players who actually care about your game... guess what? It dies. Just like their company is going to.

As if the game revolves around clowns like you. Hypocrites like you who accuse others of botting/hacking and then proceed to get themselves banned for the very same thing they accuse others of doing deserve it anyway.

Bro don't be a moron. Everybody knows people cheated in nyzul. If you didn't, you didn't get your pixels. So shut up. Stop hating because I did whatever it took to be the best.
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By Leviathan.Kingregg 2013-07-12 00:50:32
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »

I know a lot of players that struggle paying 13$. that could be a big factor too, the game is not attractive atm.
On top of the Comcast 140$ Xbox 10$ Week worth of Mountain Dew 24$
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-07-12 00:53:39
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Struggling to pay 13 dollars? That seems hard to believe...
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-07-12 00:55:33
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Struggling to pay 13 dollars? That seems hard to believe...

Obama.
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By Kimble2013 2013-07-12 00:55:55
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im glad XIV has it so I can pay 12, that extra 2 dollars is going to save me.
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By Kimble2013 2013-07-12 00:56:19
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Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Struggling to pay 13 dollars? That seems hard to believe...

Obama.

This guy gets it.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-12 01:59:57
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Leviathan.Kingregg said: »
Lakshmi.Cledant said: »

I know a lot of players that struggle paying 13$. that could be a big factor too, the game is not attractive atm.
On top of the Comcast 140$ Xbox 10$ Week worth of Mountain Dew 24$

I'd be more worried about diabetes rather than whether or not I can afford to pay $13 dollars a month. $24 dollars worth of mountain dew a week wow.

Dankdragon said: »
Bro don't be a moron. Everybody knows people cheated in nyzul. If you didn't, you didn't get your pixels. So shut up. Stop hating because I did whatever it took to be the best.

Your definition of "best" has always been sub-standard. Putting aside the ridiculous notion that hacking is a prerequisite to beating NNI I couldn't care less whether or not anyone hacked to get the gear. My point was you're a clown for accusing and trying to belittle others cause you "think" they hacked NNI when you yourself actively did it anyway.
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By Asura.Daemonarch 2013-07-12 02:29:18
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If i was worried that much about server population, I'd play a newer, more popular game. But i hardly ever have trouble finding xp parties/end game ls's/end game pugs. If nobody is shouting when I'm looking for plasm farms, i shout myself. (never have problems finding members, actually i get /tell spammed most of the time.) Would i like to see the servers overflowing again like it was back in the day, yes. But this game is 11 years old...it is naturally gonna lose players because people getting burnt out, players that want a more modern game, or players growing up and having responsibilities in RL that get in the way of playing. People are growing out of/getting sick of this game faster than new players are signing up. Imo this is why you are seeing lower server populations. But it doesn't mean the game ifs dying....
Edit: stupid phone....also edited the first couple sentences for anyone that didn't "get" what i was trying say....
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jamiemadrox 2013-07-12 03:40:28
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Asura.Daemonarch said: »
it is naturally gonna loser players
I already know I'm a loser for playing this game, don't remind me!
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-07-12 03:55:41
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It's becoming increasingly difficult to find Plasm shouts on Lakshmi the past week, there used to be at least one every hour. Now I see 1-2 a day, and I'm *** bored of sitting in town all day because I can't see Adoulin shouts on ffxiah.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-12 04:11:57
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Siren.Knivesz said: »
There were 607 people online at 6:07 pm eastern on Siren so you can take that for whatever its worth. This server was never very big anyway as the population always seemed to hover between 1.6 to 1.8k outside JP primetime and north of 2k during said primetime.

Edit: Just noticed that the server population number matched the time I did the search on (607 and 6:07 pm est). How freaky is that.
18h07*

Not so freaky.

Blazed1979 said: »
It looks like they cant afford to keep the game going and can't make it F2P.
In term of ability, they can.

Remember the latest Vanafest, the 2008-2012 goodies that sold rather well (their Japanese only stuff is really nice for a FFXI fan, I recommend it even if moonrunes can make it a bit less appealing), they could easily make us shower them in money. They just choose not to.
I don't know the real reason behind it, one thing is certain though, it's not because of some respect toward the customer or whatever, there is something else.

Asura.Daemonarch said: »
if i wanted to play a highly populated game I'd play a newer, more popular game. Would i like to see the servers overflowing again like it was back in the day, yes. But this game is 11 years old...it is naturally gonna loser players because people getting burnt out, players that want a more modern game, or players growing up and having responsibilities in RL that get in the way of playing. People are growing out of/getting sick of this game faster than new players are signing up. Imo this is why you are seeing lower server populations.
You play a MMO to play alone? Your first sentence makes no sense, that's a great start.

In all seriousness, if you play FFXI to play with little to nobody, you should try FFXII instead.

Rest of your post is literally Masteroftheobvious.png.
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By Eijii 2013-07-12 05:40:58
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few days ago Carbuncle was @566 for a good few hours.
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By Leviathan.Starcade 2013-07-12 05:58:01
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Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
Please stop using the ff14 beta as an excuse for the low population.. It have been like that since 2012, it just got worse now. Serve merge needs to be done asap.

I think it's clear that they wanted to see what would happen after Seekers. It's clear now that they need to go to 12 or even 8 servers.

However, it's apparent that they want all the XI players to go to XIV.

Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
Ffxi will need to go fp2 eventually, or else the game will dry out, people are tired of paying 13$ monthly for no content/extreme mindless plasm grinding. Doesn't worth it,

The only difference right now between FFXI and an F2P game is who's getting paid.

Lakshmi.Cledant said: »
I know a lot of players that struggle paying 13$. that could be a big factor too, the game is not attractive atm.

That would be an interesting problem.

Dankdragon said: »
Bro don't be a moron. Everybody knows people cheated in nyzul. If you didn't, you didn't get your pixels. So shut up. Stop hating because I did whatever it took to be the best.

And what would separate that attitude from the likes of someone coming to your house, smashing your computer, and saying THAT'S what it took to be the best?
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-07-12 06:26:04
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Leviathan.Starcade said: »
Dankdragon said: »
Bro don't be a moron. Everybody knows people cheated in nyzul. If you didn't, you didn't get your pixels. So shut up. Stop hating because I did whatever it took to be the best.

And what would separate that attitude from the likes of someone coming to your house, smashing your computer, and saying THAT'S what it took to be the best?
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-12 06:47:13
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Leviathan.Starcade said: »
And what would separate that attitude from the likes of someone coming to your house, smashing your computer, and saying THAT'S what it took to be the best?

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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-07-12 06:50:24
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Not really relevant, but people still think cheating was needed to get NNI gear?
(if you still can't do it, I'll give you a gold medal.)
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-12 07:06:42
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Some do.

Some guy posted not long ago explaining that after 1/2 years of doing it intensively, he didn't get a single piece.

I remember when my social LS itself used to call me a cheater when my group started to obtain pieces (not that everyone has always been 100% legit but most of it was).
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By Spiraboo 2013-07-12 07:07:06
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Not really relevant, but people still think cheating was needed to get NNI gear?
(if you still can't do it, I'll give you a gold medal.)

My group sometimes gets a pick up DD if one of our static DD didn't turn up, and if you have seen how some of them plays and imagine what happens if there's 6 of those guys in the team, you'd understand why they think you need to cheat to win.
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