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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-08 15:19:45
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I'll never understand the mind of a liberal. You can look real problems right in the eye, completely ignore them and move on to you imaginary ones. How exactly are a failing economy, rapid global climate change, and governments illegally collecting private information about thier citizens imaginary issues? And what would you consider REAL problems if those aren't? Evolution taught to children? Gay's having civil rights? Maybe black people and women not being property? Jassik has gone bye bye.
You're dismissing the issues the Liberals highlight, I highlighted some of the past crusades of the Conservatives. I invite you to name some "real problems" the liberals are overlooking.
By Reapercrew 2013-07-08 15:24:10
WOW!!!! where do i start?
#1 This started about a man who killed a "HOOKER" call her what you want but read the court report she put a add on crigslist sex for hire just in more words, she arrived took the $150 told the guy she had to take it to her ride outside and tired to leave with the money (take the money to her pimp). He demanded his money back she refussed he shot her end of story, i seen where some of you compare this to buying a movie not liking it and killing the store clerk for not taking it back, this is more like calling lawn service to cut your grass they show up take your money and try to leave without even unloading the gear, you demand a refund and shoot them to get it....Now its still murder however if your gonna be a criminal what do you expect.
#2 The whole the south poverty level debate....I live in South GA our Poverty rating in this small town is huge based on a rich greedy government, yes there tax deductions ect for farm owners/works and we still stay below the poverty line and the reason is ARE YOU HIGH AND MIGHTY DC ****TARDS GONNA GET OFF YOUR *** AND GROW YOUR OWN ****? Hell no they force us in the south into a spot where its work on a farm or go without, Yes welfare is out there but who really get's welfare? Women with kids thats who let a single man who cant find a job show up at the welfare office and he will get laughed out the door, and theres nothing wrong with that tbh but our government gives no insensitive for Factory's to move into the south its all about keeping big business at there back door so they can keep a hand in everyone pocket. All that to the side ive lived in atlanta and south GA, in atlanta i made $13.5 a hr in a grocey store manager....in South Ga i make $9.5 a hr as a security guard, I rent a 3 bed room house on an acre of land for $175 less then i payed for a 1 bedroom apartment 8 years ago in atlanta, i also shared a bathroom with others in that apartment complex and that was cheapest place i could find in Atlanta. My light bill runs about the same in both areas however down here in the south my light bill includes water, sewer, garbage pickup, internet and cable...People dont try to get rich off the poor as bad in the south. Landlords dont charge more then a bank would for rent and then provide 0 Service, we may be of a poorer class and you may see us as slow and dumb people who "rape the environment" but the truth is when the zombie apocalypse hits your all gonna be looking for a Southerner to show you how to live off the land and kill that undead dirt bags.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-08 15:25:41
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I'll never understand the mind of a liberal. You can look real problems right in the eye, completely ignore them and move on to you imaginary ones. How exactly are a failing economy, rapid global climate change, and governments illegally collecting private information about thier citizens imaginary issues? And what would you consider REAL problems if those aren't? Evolution taught to children? Gay's having civil rights? Maybe black people and women not being property? Jassik has gone bye bye.
You're dismissing the issues the Liberals highlight, I highlighted some of the past crusades of the Conservatives. I invite you to name some "real problems" the liberals are overlooking.
Ummm HIGH ENERGY COSTS CRIPPLING OUR ECONOMY AND HURTING THE MIDDLE CLASS maybe for starts. Instead ofworrying about the globe heating up 0.0001 degrees over the last 100 years maybe?
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-08 15:25:55
Quoting a previous thread:
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »how did this get to 13 pages Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Why isn't it 26 pages?
Stage 1: Complete.
Stage 2: In Progress.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-08 15:27:02
Topics lead to other topics maybe? It's complicated, I know.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-08 15:27:07
You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-08 15:28:04
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I'll never understand the mind of a liberal. You can look real problems right in the eye, completely ignore them and move on to you imaginary ones. How exactly are a failing economy, rapid global climate change, and governments illegally collecting private information about thier citizens imaginary issues? And what would you consider REAL problems if those aren't? Evolution taught to children? Gay's having civil rights? Maybe black people and women not being property? Jassik has gone bye bye. You're dismissing the issues the Liberals highlight, I highlighted some of the past crusades of the Conservatives. I invite you to name some "real problems" the liberals are overlooking. Ummm HIGH ENERGY COSTS CRIPPLING OUR ECONOMY AND HURTING THE MIDDLE CLASS maybe for starts. Instead ofworrying about the globe heating up 0.0001 degrees over the last 100 years maybe?
The biggest concerns for the future of the middle class is its extinction.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2013-07-08 15:28:10
WOW!!!! where do i start?
#1 This started about a man who killed a "HOOKER" call her what you want but read the court report she put a add on crigslist sex for hire just in more words, she arrived took the $150 told the guy she had to take it to her ride outside and tired to leave with the money (take the money to her pimp). He demanded his money back she refussed he shot her end of story, i seen where some of you compare this to buying a movie not liking it and killing the store clerk for not taking it back, this is more like calling lawn service to cut your grass they show up take your money and try to leave without even unloading the gear, you demand a refund and shoot them to get it....Now its still murder however if your gonna be a criminal what do you expect.
#2 The whole the south poverty level debate....I live in South GA our Poverty rating in this small town is huge based on a rich greedy government, yes there tax deductions ect for farm owners/works and we still stay below the poverty line and the reason is ARE YOU HIGH AND MIGHTY DC ****TARDS GONNA GET OFF YOUR *** AND GROW YOUR OWN ****? Hell no they force us in the south into a spot where its work on a farm or go without, Yes welfare is out there but who really get's welfare? Women with kids thats who let a single man who cant find a job show up at the welfare office and he will get laughed out the door, and theres nothing wrong with that tbh but our government gives no insensitive for Factory's to move into the south its all about keeping big business at there back door so they can keep a hand in everyone pocket. All that to the side ive lived in atlanta and south GA, in atlanta i made $13.5 a hr in a grocey store manager....in South Ga i make $9.5 a hr as a security guard, I rent a 3 bed room house on an acre of land for $175 less then i payed for a 1 bedroom apartment 8 years ago in atlanta, i also shared a bathroom with others in that apartment complex and that was cheapest place i could find in Atlanta. My light bill runs about the same in both areas however down here in the south my light bill includes water, sewer, garbage pickup, internet and cable...People dont try to get rich off the poor as bad in the south. Landlords dont charge more then a bank would for rent and then provide 0 Service, we may be of a poorer class and you may see us as slow and dumb people who "rape the environment" but the truth is when the zombie apocalypse hits your all gonna be looking for a Southerner to show you how to live off the land and kill that undead dirt bags.
What part of GA?
Also please break up your wall of text.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2013-07-08 15:28:49
You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument. He usually just ignores my posts.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-08 15:29:35
You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument. Does he also stick out his tongue at you going "neh neh neh neh neeeh neh" after saying it?
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By Siren.Mosin 2013-07-08 15:30:50
nanny nanny boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-08 15:31:23
You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument.
Giving him every oportunity to invalidate every point he's made. I think my work here is done.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-08 15:31:33
nanny nanny boo boo, stick your head in doo doo. Neener, neener, you're a wiener!
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By Bahamut.Kara 2013-07-08 15:32:10
nanny nanny boo boo, stick your head in doo doo.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-08 15:35:45
You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument.
Giving him every oportunity to invalidate every point he's made. I think my work here is done.
You have done no such thing. I think I'm doing pretty well since Pleebo felt the need to toss you an assist.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-08 15:37:23
You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument. He usually just ignores my posts. Your posts usually go as follows:
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Im in Cairo Ga (grady Co)
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-08 15:39:51
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument. He usually just ignores my posts. Your posts usually go as follows:
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By Bahamut.Kara 2013-07-08 15:42:50
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument. He usually just ignores my posts. Your posts usually go as follows:

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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-08 15:45:15
That's how I picture Pleebo.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2013-07-08 15:47:46
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »I'm sorry. Decent paying jobs should make the employe ineligible for food stamps.
.... I'm talking people who work 40 hrs/week....|
As was I.
There are some people who have two full time earners in the family and are STILL on food stamps.
Doesn't take much, 2 adults & 3 kids, check out the federal poverty level for a family of 5. You can make 125% of that level (and it will differ by city and state) and still be eligible for food stamps.
Some military families are on food stamps too.
Oh... lets not forget that food stamps are also subsidies for farmers and producers.
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Food Stamps should also be limited to necessities instead of being allowed for use with junk food. Milk, Eggs, meats, healthy snacks. Shouldn't be used on Cheetos and other foods excessively high in sodium or sugars....
Why... why... that's UNAMERICAN. Just ask Coke and Frito-Lay. They fight HARD to keep WIC type restrictions off food stamps.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-08 15:48:46
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument. He usually just ignores my posts. Your posts usually go as follows:

Don't mean to quote again, but bringing up Team America, I think this is what people think when you post:
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By Bahamut.Kara 2013-07-08 15:51:54
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument. He usually just ignores my posts. Your posts usually go as follows:

Night all!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-07-08 15:54:18
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument.
Giving him every oportunity to invalidate every point he's made. I think my work here is done.
You have done no such thing. I think I'm doing pretty well since Pleebo felt the need to toss you an assist. It's like you're allergic to citations or something. Take a Benadryl and post a *** fact once in a while.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2013-07-08 15:56:25
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »I'm sorry. Decent paying jobs should make the employe ineligible for food stamps.
.... I'm talking people who work 40 hrs/week....|
As was I.
There are some people who have two full time earners in the family and are STILL on food stamps.
Doesn't take much, 2 adults & 3 kids, check out the federal poverty level for a family of 5. You can make 125% of that level (and it will differ by city and state) and still be eligible for food stamps.
Some military families are on food stamps too.
Oh... lets not forget that food stamps are also subsidies for farmers and producers.
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Food Stamps should also be limited to necessities instead of being allowed for use with junk food. Milk, Eggs, meats, healthy snacks. Shouldn't be used on Cheetos and other foods excessively high in sodium or sugars....
Why... why... that's UNAMERICAN. Just ask Coke and Frito-Lay. They fight HARD to keep WIC type restrictions off food stamps. I think it does vary by state, because in Massachusetts a lot of people who work 40 hours a week aren't eligible. They "make too much money", even with children. This is just Mass. though. I can't speak for anywhere else.
But when you have cases like this:
Michigan woman wins $1-million lottery, still collects welfare
You wonder why the system is still screwed up. :|
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-08 17:14:18
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »You're arguing with a guy that thinks 'nuh-uh' is a logical counterargument.
Giving him every oportunity to invalidate every point he's made. I think my work here is done.
You have done no such thing. I think I'm doing pretty well since Pleebo felt the need to toss you an assist. It's like you're allergic to citations or something. Take a Benadryl and post a *** fact once in a while.
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By Reapercrew 2013-07-08 19:29:55
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Food Stamps should also be limited to necessities instead of being allowed for use with junk food. Milk, Eggs, meats, healthy snacks. Shouldn't be used on Cheetos and other foods excessively high in sodium or sugars....
Quote: Why... why... that's UNAMERICAN. Just ask Coke and Frito-Lay. They fight HARD to keep WIC type restrictions off food stamps.
So Food Stamps should limit people to eating like our government tells us we should eat?
The only thing they need to do on Food Stamps is better checks on what there being used for if someone buys $300 worth of sodas and a case worker comes to that persons house and finds no sodas and beer cans everywhere PUT 2 and 2 together!!!!
Ive seen my fair share of a higher rate of Food Stamp's being used to buy one person grocery in exchange for cigarettes alcohol and even Maryjane....
Also can we get smarter case workers? Even i know that Jane Doe is not the mother of John Doe, Jose Francisco, Bob Li, and Dj Jones when she is only 20 yrs old and never spend a single day in the hospital....Ok extreme but you get the picture lol
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-07-08 20:22:15
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Food Stamps should also be limited to necessities instead of being allowed for use with junk food. Milk, Eggs, meats, healthy snacks. Shouldn't be used on Cheetos and other foods excessively high in sodium or sugars....
Quote: Why... why... that's UNAMERICAN. Just ask Coke and Frito-Lay. They fight HARD to keep WIC type restrictions off food stamps.
So Food Stamps should limit people to eating like our government tells us we should eat?
The only thing they need to do on Food Stamps is better checks on what there being used for if someone buys $300 worth of sodas and a case worker comes to that persons house and finds no sodas and beer cans everywhere PUT 2 and 2 together!!!!
Ive seen my fair share of a higher rate of Food Stamp's being used to buy one person grocery in exchange for cigarettes alcohol and even Maryjane....
Also can we get smarter case workers? Even i know that Jane Doe is not the mother of John Doe, Jose Francisco, Bob Li, and Dj Jones when she is only 20 yrs old and never spend a single day in the hospital....Ok extreme but you get the picture lol
You just explained why, using your first real point, why they shouldn't be allowed to be spent on junk food. Seriously. Robert Downey Jr. Said it best in Tropic Thunder: You never go full retard.
There should be a limit on *what types of food they can buy*, I never specifically mentioned anything about quantity. Keep in mind some younger mothers adopt children, without the means to care for them, without food stamps or welfare, just so these kids have something just as important - a family.
If you're going to swing that wildly, I'd honestly expect you to hit at least on cohesive statement that actually supports your argument, rather than supporting mine. Officially: Worse than Amandarius and Tenshibaby combined.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-07-08 20:34:04
More oversight and stiffer penalties would discourage people from abusing the system, for sure. Another big issue is how cryptic and undefined a lot of these programs are.
The girl who won the lottery but was still entitled to welfare because she technically had no income is a good example. Why does it take that kind of exposure for the gaping holes in these programs to be addressed?
Another example being the young couple I was behind in line at Fred Meyer buying a bunch of groceries with food stamps and a PS3 with cash. I think you should have to submit a full breakdown of your finances and be regularly auditted if you are receiving that kind of aide. That's not to say that people shouldn't be allowed some luxuries even while accepting aide, but they should have to justify thier non-escential expenditures. The 350 bucks they spent on the PS3 would cover the majority of thier food expenses for that month, how is it they can afford that but require assistance for food?
Jury Acquits Texas Man For Murder Of Escort Who Refused Sex
A Texas jury acquitted a man for the murder of a woman he hired as an escort, after his lawyers claimed he was authorized to use deadly force because she refused sex.
Ezekiel Gilbert shot Lenora Ivie Frago in the neck on Christmas Eve, after she denied his requests for sex and wouldn’t return the $150 he had paid her, according to the San Antonio Express-News. Under Texas law, an individual is authorized to use deadly force to “retrieve stolen property at night,” and Gilbert’s lawyers cited that provision as justification for Gilbert’s action, reasoning that Frago had stolen $150 from him by taking his money without delivering sex. In a police interview played for jurors, Gilbert “never mentioned anything about theft,” a detective told the San Antonio Express-News. Frago, who was 21, was critically injured and died several months later.
While the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Florida has generated notoriety for NRA-backed Stand Your Ground laws, which authorize the unfettered use of deadly force without a duty to retreat in defense of one’s person or home, Texas’ exceedingly broad law goes well beyond this, to allow deadly force in protection of any piece of “tangible” or “movable” property.
The Texas provision authorizes deadly force not only to “retrieve stolen property at night” but also during “criminal mischief in the nighttime” and even to prevent someone who is fleeing immediately after a theft during the night or a burglary or robbery, so long as the individual “reasonably” thinks the property cannot be protected by other means.
This shockingly broad statute authorizes individuals to take not just law enforcement, but punishment, into their own hands and impose death for alleged offenses that would never warrant the death penalty even if the person were convicted in court. But even in light of the expansive vigilante justice made legal by the statute, it is difficult to see how Gilbert’s behavior was justified, given that escorts are not entitled to deliver sex under the law, and delivering sex for money is an illegal transaction.
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