[Dev] Matsui: R/M/E/C Follow-up

It sounds to me like they are simply editing the stats of the 99 versions but of course that isn't confirmed since often translations can be a bit quirky with wording.

But really, 99's are already time consuming enough as it is, we don't need to add anything to them. I do kinda wish they would scale it just a bit though. Tiny boost to 85's, small boost to 90's medium boost to 95's and the majority and largest boost to 99's.

Where is the follow-up?

Until Matsui specifically says that they will continue to update update RME dynamically as new Delve weapons are released, I'm not reassured by anything he says one iota. In this new content level based FFXI, updating RME one time and forgetting it is the same as updating RME zero times, and that's looking more and more like what he wants to do. Also I think he may not actually know what the word "option" means in reality.

I think only one person that i have seen on my server still does qilin runs for an attempt at HMP. It would be nice if they included HMP as possible drops in some Adoulin content as well if "Logwatch" is as dead as it has mostly been.

(i base this only on shouts i have seen... maybe there is a lot going on when i am at work...)

meh

VW is basically 95% dead on Phoenix. I see about 1-2 Ig/Akvan/Uptala runs per week. Simply put, unless the boost to 99 empy's are significantly better than the boost to 99 relics, empy weapons will basically die altogether. Getting 99 relic is a lot easier/faster than a 99 empy, even before VW died. Still refuse to toss my Kannagi though, I always enjoyed trophies ^^

150 page thread here we go again!

I don't know how many times people can say the same things over and over.

till "Some"1"" will listen us..

Not everyone agrees with you. That's why there was discussion to begin with.

Well, well, Lib decided to join us. I don't look for them to lessen the HMP requirement, but maybe make them more common.

Thats assuming they keep releasing new weapons and not just boost the rank points higher into like level 30 :<

I do see gear being swept clean and all that work wasted though.

R/M/Es will probably be boosted about the time the final tier of new gear is released, unless he said different before.

I only hope when he says to scrutinise the WoE coin stuff that they will consider the empy ws unlock happen regardless of your empy lvl. As taint posted before make it a quest of some sorts.

people will still do woe for ws they want it just appeases the masses with empys right now, because like some one said, they are essentially rewarding people who couldn't be bothered to make an empy or felt that they couldn't make an empy over people who did actually make one..... I just don't see why you would do this.

All they did was buy items out of peoples bazaar to 99 the weapon...

This is a damn sight easier than farming the kis to make an empy regardless of if your brewing all the mob or not. I am not saying farmin ki is hard. Its just time consuming and requires a bit of effort.

I know some people bought peoples kis but really I don't think thats a lot of people I think most farmed em like normal.

I just hope he sees sense.

Hey i hear you love your REM weapons even if they are only lvl 90 ... be a shame if someone made them .... USELESS!!

That happened like 3 weeks ago. Much longer ago than that if you were in a good enough l/s. Regardless, happy with updates. Now I'm just curious what the weapons from new Naakuals will look like before I get too excited about Ukon again.

This is a damn sight easier than farming the kis to make an empy regardless of if your brewing all the mob or not. I am not saying farmin ki is hard. Its just time consuming and requires a bit of effort.

Sad thing is, that doesn't even matter due to the fact people buy the drops from someone else who farmed the KI's.

apparently they are useless until you cap them out anyway...apparently.

So basically, forget about the hard work you put into previous R/E/M, because now you can waste even more time on these "currently" new amazing weapons. So once everyone obtains a delve weapon the developers are going to come out with even better weapons. With this concept, it means the time and effort you put into the delve weapons will be worth nothing by the time the next set of amazing weapons comes around. Cannot wait for this /toss fest.

What? The weapons you actually put work into, i.e. 99, aren't forgotten. And welcome to games with a subscription fee.

im assuming they will raise the rank points level...and even if they do erase all the effort you put into weapons/gear youll still need a rank 15 delve or a new and improved relic/a rank 15 naakual delve weapon to get the new uber weapon.

Just let them die. Building a weapon once should not be a ticket to having the best weapon in the game 10 years down the line.

New content happens, new gear happens, get over it. If you want your old gear to stay relevant forever, why even continue playing?

because you like everything else about the game, duh? (i am not part of this group)

this is Bullcrap SE. I got this level 1 Onion Sword when I started the game, now it's useless, I don't have money to upgrade it, why can't my Onion sword have 130+ Damage on it? you JERKS

But seriously, Relics and Mythics can cost hundreds of millions of gil to make and can take months if not YEARS to finsh. Why should Empy owners get a free pass?

and it's not like you can't get your 90 weapon to 99, it takes time and effort, if you're serious about the job and weapon you'll be able to do it. I'm basically seeing a lot complaining cause people don't want to spend time or money on the weapons. in that case, do Delve, problem solved.

But they aren't going to die.

All this is doing is delaying their inevitable worthlessness.

It's silly to suggest that a R/M/E at 99 is like Byakkos Haidate. Amazing gear when it come out and useful for years, but is replaceable with something better. Getting Byakko kills when sky came out was very challenging, but it is not even remotely on par with the cost and effort it takes to get a R/M/E to 99.

R/M/E are not even relevant even a little bit anymore. We did a run the other day, and a person without NIN at 99 won lot on Delve katana. Should that person immediately be able to outparse someone with a 90 empy, or 95 relic (lets consider these the easy to get versons like WoE weapons)? Even considering that the game is progressing to new content, that is a stupid concept considering the time and effort the others take to attain. I would get it more if the delve started at a lower tier and worked up to stronger by the end, I really would. But to have a lucky drop and lot beat 9 months worth of effort? Stupid. It isnt like the fights are AV and so stupidly hard that the drop is an amazing reward.

Yes, 99 R/M/E holders should not have gotten kicked in the nuts like that. It's too much effort to reduce them to worthless. I'm okay with new weapons being a little more powerful, I'm not saying they have to be the TOP option, but the gap is way to far apart to make them even remotely worth the effort they took to attain.

That being said, I'm okay leaving 95 and below weapons as they are. Its like having a Dynamis weapon with the WS unlocked only in dynamis until you finish it. Get it to 99, or don't bother.

This should be the post that gets quoted every new page.

As soon as they design another weapon for DRG that can compensate for DRG's inherent job design flaws, and allow it to go toe-to-toe with other top geared heavy DD, I will happily make that new weapon and mannequin Ryunohige^^