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Cerberus.Sephrin
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By Cerberus.Sephrin 2013-04-09 14:47:09
If you went to the police about this girl's death... I don't know. I'm not a cop, but that would sound mighty mysterious to me that YOU were messaging her when you were not her friend.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-09 15:09:04
If you went to the police about this girl's death... I don't know. I'm not a cop, but that would sound mighty mysterious to me that YOU were messaging her when you were not her friend.
you're right, you're not a cop. that kind of thing is incredibly common these days
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2013-04-09 15:19:54
Well, I mean... I messaged her like a year ago. She only replied recently.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2013-04-09 15:49:43
I thought everyone in Texas carried 4 guns?
No, only the Republicans. The Democrats carry a mere 2.
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2013-04-09 16:05:50
I would have called the police or school's psychologist from the drinking and his dealings with the females. We always want to help that one person but it's best to leave it up to the professionals.
If you have any documents that can help with the investigation, I would notify the police. Was it a suicide or murder? I still find it strange that the woman did not seem to communicate with you much.
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2013-04-09 16:27:14
Who's Jake, and why wouldn't your mother sleep with him?
I think he may have accidently given away Ted's real name. :)
Thanks for sharing the story Shinobu. Any news articles about the girl online? As others have suggested, tip the police so that they can at least investigate Ted has a possible suspect. I'm curious to know the status of the investigation. Sorry you had to deal with all that crap, it must have been very stressful.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2013-04-09 16:31:32
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By Odin.Mindinho 2013-04-09 16:31:37
You can contact the police, but they will only take it at face value because anyone can call make allegations. Black out drinking is not a tangible offense...neither is being creepy. If that were the case most men would have a file for consistently starring at women's boobs while intoxicated. Unless the person has actually done something tangible other than wiggle his tongue or stare there's not much the authorities can do and as far as a university...it's a longer process. Look at recent cases...james holden had a file and the school knew he was one rejection away from doing something stupid and the school hand it's hand's tied.
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2013-04-09 16:32:07
Who's Jake, and why wouldn't your mother sleep with him?
I think he may have accidently given away Ted's real name. :)
Thanks for sharing the story Shinobu. Any news articles about the girl online? As others have suggested, tip the police so that they can at least investigate Ted has a possible suspect. I'm curious to know the status of the investigation. Sorry you had to deal with all that crap, it must have been very stressful.
Yeah... Bleh I tried really hard to keep to the pseudonyms.
I don't really wanna release details about it because in the end, this is a pretty big stretch and I don't wanna risk someone from the site contacting her family or something and being like "this guy on the internet thinks some guy names Ted killed her." If something does end up happening I'll let you guys know.
Thanks for the support everyone, I've been kind of freaked out since the e-mail. Especially due to the part where I probably next if I'm not just crazy...
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By Odin.Eikechi 2013-04-09 16:35:15
Dude that was a *** up story. Talk to the police as soon as humanly possible. That's crazy crazy ***and that dude needs to be stopped if it was him. There is no harm in saying "Excuse me officer, I have a really odd story I want you guys to look in to." It's not filing a false police report or anything if they just take a statement.
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By Phoenix.Morier 2013-04-09 16:36:24
Who's Jake, and why wouldn't your mother sleep with him? She probably is not in to magic dogs.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2013-04-09 16:40:49
Let me just say that had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. Wow.
But yes, definitely tell the police of what you think about Ted. Maybe even just show them this description?
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By Sylph.Shinobu 2013-04-09 16:54:32
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »Let me just say that had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. Wow.
But yes, definitely tell the police of what you think about Ted. Maybe even just show them this description?
I'm definitely looking into the whole thing, I'll be making the call when I get home tonight. In the end though, even if I am 100% off, at least whenever I tell people about my old roommate, I have something to show them.
I'm surprised so many people read the entire thing, I was worried it was too much text!
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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-09 16:55:16
Especially due to the part where I probably next if I'm not just crazy... Not that I'm trying to freak you out more or anything but does Ted know about this site from you two being room mates and that you post here? If he is targeting you he might be seeing this...
Regardless as others have said definitely make your statement to the police, if you really are worried for your self do your best to keep in contact with people you know so they know where you are just as a safety net. Could even find someone to stay with if you feel the need. Probably better to be on the paranoid side than it turn out to not be paranoia.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-09 17:03:09
Especially due to the part where I probably next if I'm not just crazy... Not that I'm trying to freak you out more or anything but does Ted know about this site from you two being room mates and that you post here? If he is targeting you he might be seeing this... Regardless as others have said definitely make your statement to the police, if you really are worried for your self do your best to keep in contact with people you know so they know where you are just as a safety net. Could even find someone to stay with if you feel the need. Probably better to be on the paranoid side than it turn out to not be paranoia.
Ya, I definately agree with this, I wouldn't be alone anymore than necessary until you are confident that he is not a threat to you.
And, as said, posting on a public site could trigger something if he is indeed fixated on or targetting you in any way.
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By Lakshmi.Cesil 2013-04-09 17:09:36
Whoa, I'd call the police just to be safe...
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By Odin.Strummer 2013-04-09 17:10:55
Glad to hear you're filing a statement with the police. Better safe than sorry.
You mentioned a memorial service for the girl. If the service is open to the public (or, more likely, open to your campus' student body), you may want to consider going. Assuming her cause of death has been determined, you may find out more about it there.
Be safe, and here's hoping you have better luck with your future roommates!
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2013-04-09 17:18:13
The court of public opinion is amazing and interesting.
I'm really stuck on someone sleeping with a loaded gun under their pillow for safety - irony being a billion times more fun than exaggeration - and virtually no action being taken, contrasted with "someone that was lab partners with someone else (who is creepy as hell, granted) is now dead so it's probably him because I haven't seen his brother around, time to call the police."
Screw it, though: if you're scared, you're scared. If nothing else, it's a good lesson to everyone that if they want their private lives to remain private - illegal or not - don't be creepy, because you never know when you might wake up the subject of a murder investigation.
Seriously, though - do what makes you feel better. I mean that free from sarcasm. If you're right, yay. If you're wrong and nothing happens, whatever. If you're wrong and this guys' life gets flipped upside down, better his personal life than your actual life, I guess. Just remember that he's creepy and it will be easier to forget.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2013-04-09 17:21:24
I think if this happened to me, it would be the one time i actually go out and buy a gun >.>;
good luck man, i honestly don't know what to say other than have some kind of protection for yourself. Cops can only do so much tbh.
By Enuyasha 2013-04-09 17:41:22
Call the police.
Have a meeting with your dean and have them take precautions over people that may have reported "Ted" or complained.
Never go out alone from now on.
Never stay in a location alone.
Be aware of your surroundings etc at all times.
But yes, contact the authorities about your beliefs and definitely see if you can get a detail on your address. Take all the precautionary measures possible.
also: as Ghal said, buy a weapon (but please learn to shoot it >_> I the gun control advocate wouldnt advise this otherwise,but ***is serious)
also, i know this is serious,but someone told you to talk to James Patterson...after this all blows over do it!
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Cerberus.Sephrin
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By Cerberus.Sephrin 2013-04-09 17:43:48
It's still pretty crazy. I can't believe how much you put up with this guy. ><
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2013-04-09 17:48:53
Strange situation, to say the least. I rarely make it past the first few paragraphs but that was a good read. I would commence the book writing now, get the interviews and details while they're fresh. You've found your calling, True Crime, go!
Although as an attempted Journalism major, I'm fairly serious about that but in complete seriousness, you should contact the police. As was said, giving up the FB exchanges with the girl would show a direct link and most likely get the ball rolling.
Also...
Who's Jake, and why wouldn't your mother sleep with him? I read that line a few times and wandered if anyone caught that. lol
I do hope you keep us posted as the events unfold, if you're not crazy that is...
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By Ragnarok.Zohnax 2013-04-09 17:58:04
Before jumping to conclusions about Ted's older brother and the girl though, make sure you find concrete proof that she was actually murdered and not just involved in a freak accident or something.
If you're concerned for your own safety, make sure you take basic proper precautions and whatnot. A small, sturdy, blunt object in your pocket can be used for self-defense. Keep eyes and ears open for now and see if any more evidence points out your concerns to be true.
I'd also advise to tell your roommates who also were involved with Ted while he was there to stay vigilant as well.
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2013-04-09 17:59:32
Welp everyone else has said what I would of said already. Either way, that was a good read and id definitely find someone to look it over and give their opinion on it after this all blows over.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-09 18:01:49
Call the police. You're wrong? So what, maybe they check "Ted" out, perhaps even get him so real professional help. You're right? You may prevent more murders.
To be completely honest, I was expecting a walk the dinosaur/monster mash/fresh prince ending. Turns out you were serious, but I'd definitely call the police, give an anonymous tip if you want. "Mysterious Death" to me seems as though the media just wasn't allowed to disclose what kind of death it was, homicide, suicide, or freak accident.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-09 18:29:55
The Police can actually use any noted behavioral patterns witnessed by Shinobu and his room mates in order to track this creeper down to interrogate him. Granted his behavior is outwardly and inwardly destructive on a whole new scale, and can't be used to indict him on murder charges, they can use it as a reason to put him into a psychiatric ward for his protection, as well as the general public.
There have also been "freak accidents, mysterious mdeaths, and no foul-play" involved events that turn out to be sophisticated, well planned murders. You can argue and say i've watched too much crime drama, but they are high possibilities.
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2013-04-09 18:33:57
Before jumping to conclusions about Ted's older brother and the girl though, make sure you find concrete proof that she was actually murdered and not just involved in a freak accident or something.
If you're concerned for your own safety, make sure you take basic proper precautions and whatnot. A small, sturdy, blunt object in your pocket can be used for self-defense. Keep eyes and ears open for now and see if any more evidence points out your concerns to be true.
I'd also advise to tell your roommates who also were involved with Ted while he was there to stay vigilant as well. I blame being tired but I definitely just read this as "if you're concerned for your own safety, make sure you use proper pronunciation." I was thinking, "wtf that does that have to do with anything?!"
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-09 18:36:52
Proper Pronunciation will save your life, man!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-09 18:47:31
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »The Police can actually use any noted behavioral patterns witnessed by Shinobu and his room mates in order to track this creeper down to interrogate him. Granted his behavior is outwardly and inwardly destructive on a whole new scale, and can't be used to indict him on murder charges, they can use it as a reason to put him into a psychiatric ward for his protection, as well as the general public.
There have also been "freak accidents, mysterious mdeaths, and no foul-play" involved events that turn out to be sophisticated, well planned murders. You can argue and say i've watched too much crime drama, but they are high possibilities. .jpg) ?
So, It all began about three or four years ago. I was sitting in my room and I kept hearing a banging downstairs but I just ignored it for about five minutes, until I got fed up and went to see what it was and I saw my land lady "Your new roommates here!" I had no idea we were getting a new roommate but I'm a very laid back person and just went with it.
Meeting this new roommate gave me an immediate strange vibe, he shook hands like a dead fish and did a lot of staring. I hang out with a lot of strange people, I mean I LARP, so I looked past this. The thing was, everyone else in the house had the same kind of vibe from him. We all were pretty sure he was gay, which was fine with us, and would explain a lot of his awkwardness, he just wasn't out about it or was afraid we would judge him. So, we waited for him to come out to us if he wanted, and left it at that. We accepted his strange behavior as nothing to worry about and moved on.
As time went on, he opened up a little to us, but he kept being... stranger. He would sit in the living room with the lights off, just staring at a book, never turning the page, never doing anything, just sitting there, in the darkness. He ate black beans and noodles in water, no spices, no salt, just boiled the noodles and black beans together and ate it as a soup, he ate this every single day. I mean, okay, a little strange, but who am I to judge what someone eats?
Then it got worse, he started drinking, and suddenly while drunk, he wasn't the reserved ever silent guy we knew him as, but he was loud, obnoxious, kept trying to give everyone back rubs, any girls around, he would ask them to have sex with him straight out and keep pushing. More than once we had to stop people from beating the ever living crap out of him.
It turned out he wasn't gay...
My roommate "blake" (using fake names) had friends over and he let the creepy roommate "Ted" hang out with them in Blake's room. Blake was playing video games and he saw movement out of the corner of his eye, but ignored it for a while. After about two minutes of the movement Blake finally looked over and saw Ted staring one of the girls int he room down, flailing his tongue as hard as he could, just non-stop.
Blake again, we allowing Ted to come and hang with him and his friends, if only because Blake was too nice to kick Ted out. While hanging out for a while, Blake really just had enough of Ted and implied he was going to "watch a movie" with a girl that was over and the other friend (there were 4 people total in the room) was leaving. Finally, Ted got the hint and left. Ten minutes later, Blake went downstairs to get some water. All of the lights were off and when Blake got to the kitchen, he saw Ted, standing there, slouched to the side, staring at Blake and he said "I thought your friend was leaving..."
Ted would do things like ask if you had any family and when you would respond with "what about you?" his response was always "Don't F***ing talk about that!"
I told him he had problems and needed help, I said it sincerely and as helpful as I could, but he told me he had no problems and I was in fact the one with problems and I shouldn't put my problems on him. We didn't talk for two glorious months. I could almost pretend he wasn't there. I only saw him on my mothers birthday when I took her out to see Blakes band preform at a nice restaurant. Ted showed up with my other friends and other roommate because Ted said he was going to drive to the bar if they didn't bring him and he was already hammered (this was already after he signed saying he wouldn't be drunk in the house). Well, they got there and Jake immediately walked up to me and my mother and he began asking my mother to have sex with him (no, she definitely wasn't flattered). Later that night he was banned from another bar (hes probably banned from every bar in town by now).
We were so worried about Ted that Blake slept with a loaded hand-gun under his pillow and I kept a large knife right next to where I slept... Just in case... We all joked that we would be interviewed by discovery channel one day with "so you knew him before he started killing people?"
I could go on and on, but the story doesn't end here so I'm going to move on and just leave the brief description there of him and the things he did.
Finally, we had to kick Ted out, it was just getting so bad, we couldn't have females over whatsoever, Ted got blackout drunk almost nightly even after we had him sign a paper promising to not be drunk in the house anymore because of how absolutely terrible he was, puking up and down the stairs, across the living room, from his room to the bathroom, vomit everywhere (this is all one night) and then when asked to do something about it we were given a firm "Go F*** yourself." That's just the physical aspect of him being drunk, the mental issues went haywire. He was just so belligerent, and out of control, we couldn't handle it anymore. He finally left, but not without one last hurrah of freaking us out. He was going to tell us what his problem was, why he was so messed up. It took him coming into the room 4 times, each time talking, then stopping and making no sense (it's hard to explain, but he had this way of talking almost like yoda, but in a much stranger way) and the 4th time he said he was starting the story, he took his breath to start, then he just stopped and stared directly into my eyes for about three minutes, and then declared "well no you know..." and I told him he said absolutely nothing and he walked away with a soft chuckle and a "yeah..." his response to any question he didn't want to answer.
Anyway, moving on...
I had one class with him after he left, and the entire class he would stare at me, if he saw me waiting outside class int he hallway he would sit across from me and just stare, he kept trying to engage me, but I would have nothing to do with it, I tried to pretend he wasn't there. At the end of the semester, we had a group project and the pairings were random. He got paired up with this very cute girl and I felt terrible for her. So bad that after talking to some friends who knew Ted, I actually messaged the girl on FB warning her. I never got a response but in the message I explained how awkward it probably was and I didn't expect a response.
Later in life, I was working on campus and I saw this guy walking around, acting a little off, almost like Ted, he even looked like Ted a little bit, but it definitely wasn't Ted. I watched him walk by a few times until he finally came to me and asked to barrow a lighter. I asked if he needed it to smoke and I would join him. We began talking and he told me he moved back here to help his little brother, his little brother was having problems. After a few minutes I realized this was Ted's older brother. I told him I had been Ted's roommate and he gasped and said he had no idea and was astounded anyone was able to deal with his little brother for a year. As his older brother, it took everything in him to put up with Ted, to try and help Ted. If he wasn't his older brother, he said he would never stick around, he would have ran. He told me he was working with Ted and hoped to help, but there was something terribly wrong and Ted wouldn't say anything, it took two months to get Ted to admit there as something wrong.
I saw Ted's older brother a few more times through that semester, and once last semester early in the semester, but I had noticed I hadn't seen either of them at all this semester, so I asked some other people I see around the building a lot and I was told this: They had seen Ted's older brother, met him and everyone agreed, he was a little off, but nothing like Ted. Ted would sit outside the building, waiting for his older brother. When Ted's older brother caught him staring, he would slap him upside the head and say "stop it, people are gonna think you're weird!" Well, last semester, an older man who worked on campus going to school, getting his life back together after being sober for 10 years, started showing up to work drunk and ended up getting fired. Ted's older brother proudly declared that it was he who got the man off the wagon. Something Ted liked to do was encourage terrible behavior, not just drinking, but binge drinking, and (attempting) womanizing and generally poor life choices. Then, Ted's older brother started showing up to the work area drunk, walking up behind people and screaming, trying to violently scare people, trying to... Rub their backs... Finally Ted's older brother was kicked out of school after he destroyed a $5000 piece of equipment. All of this happened in the course of two weeks. Ted's older brother seemed fine, then suddenly he went... crazy...
I asked my friends who told me this if they had seen Ted during the
two weeks and nobody could confirm having seen Ted, just his older brother... So I started to jokingly think "what if Ted get jealous of his older brothers 'normal' life and acted on it... They look so similar, what if Ted killed his older brother and tried to take over his life?" Mostly it was a kidding kind of idea, but based loosely on reality, just enough to get some chuckles out of friends who knew Ted.
About a month ago I got a reply from the girl I messaged warning her about Ted, she said FB privacy settings didn't show her the message and she had just seen it. She thanked me for the concern, and confirmed that she too was very creeped out by Ted. I replied saying I was just trying to help and she never responded again.
Today there was a mass e-mail to my school that a student had died mysteriously last week, and there was a memorial service to be held soon. The name looked familiar and I looked back at the old message, it was the same girl. The girl I warned about Ted is dead...
I don't know what to do... I mean, I'm probably connecting dots that aren't there, he probably has nothing to do with her death, he probably didn't kill his older brother... but what if he did? What if I could stop him from killing again? I don't wan't to call the police and be like "so... I have this theory..." But what do I do? How do I confirm someone saw Ted and his brother at the same time? Who would I tell this to to have them at least look a little into it?
I just don't know what to do...
Edited to fix a few of the early spelling mistakes.
Tl;Dr: I think my old roommate killed his older brother and this girl from my school... I'm not joking...
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