IiPunch - Monk Guide

Learn Japanese first and post on the JP forum if you want their attention.

Use Google translate English to Japanese. Use short sentences and simple words and translate. Then paste in JP forums

***, they don't even care about jp anymore for the most part. While it's true they exclusively care about jp feedback, the amount of jp feedback they care about is exceptionally low now too.

This is true. The difference is, on the JP side, it gets significantly more views. I posted some Monk ideas on both forums, and within a week the views on JP side eye tripled with several thumbs up. I highly doubt many NA players regularly use the OF anymore

Anyone intelligent that posts worthwhile stuff on the OF as an NA is banned. literally. They don't tolerate intelligence over there.

Hey guys

First, I understand that this is more than likely a waste of time, but it doesn't hut to try.

I was going to post it in the "Report a bug" section on the SE official JP Forums, and word is something like:

First, treating it like it is a bug and pointing out every other job it activates for, but not Monk. Also pointing out that understanding and appreciating that if it Activated on both hands on a attack round, it would be overpowered, but point out again that it doesn't even work on 1 hand, and ask if they are aware of this/if it is a bug. Also ask, if they are aware of this, if they would consider changing it to activate on at least 1 hand, and also point out how Monk needs a update and is lacing compared to the heavy DD's etc.


I am not familiar with google translate and I'm having a hard time wording this correctly. IF anyone has some free time I would appreciate if they gave it a try putting something together and posting it up on there to see what they say (If they say anything, which as many pointed out it is doubtful)

Thanks guys

Where does Kaja fit in term on non REMA h2h?

It has 15 less damage than Jolt but 5 more Vit and Str with an added 10 dex(raging fist and dragon kick rejoice). 10 more acc and 25 Attack on kaja than jolt. Tho does that make up for the 15 less damage?

Is asuran fist still garbage? I probably already know the answer, but...

Someone posted on the OF that the "asuran fists" +50% wasn't even functioning. So there's that, but I don't know anyone that actually got them yet to prove it... since most of the people that "test" things are functionally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE...

I wouldn't really ask about them until the next update, right now they're meh, but anything could happen in 2 weeks.

I made them, but haven't used them for anything. spharai are afterglowed, and I've been busy building vere. I also play vanilla, so I would need someone to tell me what to do to test them. I was more interested in the final version (whenever that comes along) and I unlocked VS via the WoE route, so asuran fists just haven't been terribly interesting to me atm.

/shrug

That's plain not true. the people getting banned aren't being intelligent. they are throwing persistent, useless tantrums.

"MAKE IT MY WAY!!"

"WHY HAVEN'T YOU FIXED IT YET!"

Repeat Adnauseum

I mean like that happens too, obviously. But way back when it was new, pretty much all the people you look to for info on here (and bg) were banned there.

Testing asuran +50% is pretty simple. It's a large increase (still low damage). Very easy to eyeball. If you do 10k in jolt, you'll do 15k in kaja. if it is working properly. That's very obvious.

And if you want to bring things closer together could use comeuppances or denouements to bring Weapon DMG closer together. Though I doubt that'd be needed with a 50% boost.

I'll check it out when I get some free time.

Given that Asuran Fists generally blows: simply doing one Asuran Fists over 15k is proof enough, since it hits (used to) around 8-12k.

Monk/sam
Engage random apex monster
sekkanoki > asuran fists
Test is done

my gear is mediocre at best so I'll establish a baseline with the spharai first

they seem to work

in TP gear Apex crawlers rank 0 afterglow spharai no buffs

4-6k

same TP gear kaja knuckles no buffs

6-8k

shitty TP gear if I wasn’t clear about that earlier

Man even if asuran fists got +200% I believe it would still be mediocre at this point lol. Maybe even 300%

Next update they will likely take best non-rema spot (still dont use asuran fists!) For right now I would still just use jolt, or comeuppances, if you're lucky/crazy enough to actually have em.

(*) Can't really recommend Su5, just a waste of time and money... they're better but yeah.

How to fix Asuran Fists...multiply dmg for every hit...end result 80k-90k dmg weapon skill.

We can dream right ?

one thing I forget to mention in my drunken haze over the weekend, the weapon model is firetruck red atm, almost screaming to the eyes "LOOK OUT! *** NOOB ALERT!". it's pretty funny.

I kinda wish they would've made them all pure white like the GA. would make the glow effects stand out better.

Pink and reds and whatnot mute the glow. Terrible aesthetics.

But I also hate the yellow +3 boxes and afterglow farts... so...

To glow or to not to glow that is the question...

Wear it with a moogle suit like a proper villain.

I'll finish it for sure. the mnk still needs a ton of work, so I haven't been trying to gear other jobs too seriously yet. that leaves ambu points for the last two pieces of Hachimaru to +2, and gil. no reason not to make em' for shits and giggles over here.

Reposting here, because it might be forgotten fast in Glanz thread where I posted it originally and it took me few hours, so it would be a waste.

All with capped pdif (I'm not a fan of checking everything with capped pdif, but it took me long enough. I might check it again in the future for lower attack, but not soon lol)

Target was Apex Eruca. Def is irrelevant but what is relevant here is

VIT:228
AGI:235

Keep in mind that for stuff with higher VIT and AGI, STR and DEX on Verethragna might have more value for fSTR and dDEX


Impetus Up (all using Victory Smite ASAP):
Veret R15 AM3: 8020 DPS
Glanz R15 AM3: 7286 DPS
Spharai R15 AM: 7001 DPS
Godhands R15: 6773 DPS

Impetus down, Footwork down:
Veret R15 AM3 VSmite ASAP: 5832 DPS
Veret R15 AM3 Raging Fists 2500TP: 5673 DPS
Godhands R15 Raging Fists 1000-2000TP: 5550 DPS
Spharai R15 AM Final Heaven ASAP: 5429 DPS
Glanz R15 AM3 Raging Fists 2500TP: 5380 DPS
Spharai R15 AM Raging Fists 2500TP: 5323
Glanz R15 AM3 VSmite ASAP: 5290 DPS
Spharai R15 AM VSmite ASAP: 5133 DPS

Footwork up, Impetus Down:
Veret R15 AM3 Tornado Kick 2500TP: 6447 DPS
Veret R15 AM3 VSmite ASAP: 6411 DPS
Godhands R15 Tornado Kick ASAP: 6392 DPS
Glanz R15 AM3 Tornado Kick 2500TP: 6180 DPS
Spharai R15 AM Tornado Kick 2500TP: 6131 DPS
Spharai R15 AM Final Heaven ASAP: 6042 DPS


All sets used TP sets with AF3+2 legs and AF+3 Feet. Kendatsuba +1 legs and feet were giving slightly less DPS (Usually something between 50 and 200) so that's still an option if you need MEVA. Also Kendatsuba +1 legs were used for Footwork set with Spharai, because otherwise it would be a lot of wasted Kick Attack rate.

Like you see, surprisingly sweet spot for some builds is to actually WS at 2500TP :O
That being said the difference in DPS for most of this builds between 1500TP and 2500TP is very small, so you can WS slightly earlier.

Tornado kick set?

Knobkierrie
Hesychast head +3
Monk's +2 neck
Sherida
Moonshade AccTP
Herculean body str/wsd/acc/att
Anchorite hands +3
Niqmaddu
Epaminonda's
Segomo str/wsd
Moonbow +1
Hizamaru legs +2
Anchorite feet +3

So Godhands is the worst when Impetus is up? Oh wow.

This reminded me Simon, the focus on White DMG for MNK was brought way back, before updates, when Raging Fists were higher on AVG than VS for Joltz +1, Veret, and GodHands.

I believe it was mentioned somewhere here, and now after seeing your calculations, this incentivizes White DMG even more post update, making the idea of holding WS preferable and borderline more meta for MNK when Impetus is down.

Edit: Page 198, had to look it up..

Hey, just got the Sagitta, tried looking back a few pages but couldn't find anything. Which is the best path? I'm assuming that it's Path A and that they'll out do Godhands?