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By stickyd420 2018-08-21 13:18:38
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who was arguing? lol
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By Leviathan.Andret 2018-08-21 14:32:23
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As a long timer owner of Rag. I recently got Change and Montante NQ. I can tell you that I now only use Rag for Domain Invasion as it's a fantastic weapon to score crits.
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By Dsuza 2018-08-21 21:20:36
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Hey guys, I would really appreciate if someone could post a couple of Full Break WS sets. From my understanding Magic Acc and Acc is the main goal?

Could someone please post a BiS set than maybe 2nd best set for it so I can /toss something together soon.

Thank you very much in advance for your time and help
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-08-21 21:46:47
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Full Flamma +2 basically.
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By stickyd420 2018-08-22 13:24:52
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ya flamma+2 is BIS or near
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By Dsuza 2018-08-22 21:58:53
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Thanks again guys.

How about Rings/Earrings/Waist/Ammo, etc?

Or there is no need to go overboard, and full Flamma +2 enough to make it land/stick on the highest lvl content?
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-08-22 22:02:22
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I use full flamma +2 then

Ammo: Pemphredo tathlum
Neck: Sanctity necklace
Ear1: Dignitary's earring
Ear2: Telos earring
Ring1: Flamma ring
Ring2: Weatherspoon ring +1
Back: Chicol Mantle (STR+30 Acc/Atk 20 WSD 10)
Waist: Eschan stone

Lets me land them normally on most everything I fight.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-08-22 22:07:28
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Etana is a good swap for anyone who didn't pick weatherspoon
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By Dsuza 2018-08-22 22:10:34
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Thank you
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-08-22 22:13:10
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Etana is a good swap for anyone who didn't pick weatherspoon

Yeah I got that ring mostly for my BLU, RNG and RDM, but it helps on other jobs too.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-08-25 10:10:57
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Why would you be using Telos over Brutal unless you had a severe need for Store TP?
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By Bismarck.Gippali 2018-08-25 10:45:10
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But Saevel, you just don't understand...if he could show you the little grid with gear it would all make sense /eyeroll.
 
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-08-25 19:26:52
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Um, Telos has 5 STP, while Brutal has 1.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-08-25 19:35:02
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Bismarck.Vize said: »
telos and brutal have the same store tp ........ i switch between them when i need more accuracy than double attack


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Telos has 1 DA 5 Store TP

Brutal has 5 DA 1 Store TP

It's an exchange of 4 DA and 4 Store TP with DA usually having the better return.

Cessance is 3 DA and 3 Store TP.
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By Shiva.Cahota 2018-08-25 20:08:29
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so should be making my chango soo cause why not. but relic +3 body worth it or well augmeted valo body with 7 stp?
 
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2018-08-28 15:51:05
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bleh.. So there's been a strain of shouts today claiming that Ragnarok is still the best Greatsword, people have just been using it wrong...

The guy making the claim swears that Resolution > Scourge > Resolution will provide Best of All DPS. I tried to explain to him the weaknesses of Rag's low delay and Scourge's lackluster damage, etc etc but the frets hit on deff ears <.<;

What would a BiS Scourge setup be? Something pretty similar to Upheaval I take it? Maybe a slight change here or there? Gonna go run individual DPS tests under optimal conditions (or Near-Optimal at least) to see if it holds any water at all.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2018-08-28 16:05:41
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STR would be better than VIT because double dipping, but otherwise yes, focus on WSD like high TP Upheaval.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-08-28 18:21:25
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Valefor.Yandaime said: »
The guy making the claim swears that Resolution > Scourge > Resolution will provide Best of All DPS.

He's very very confused, that won't make ***because the first two create light but Reso doesn't continue it.

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What would a BiS Scourge setup be? Something pretty similar to Upheaval I take it? Maybe a slight change here or there? Gonna go run individual DPS tests under optimal conditions (or Near-Optimal at least) to see if it holds any water at all.

Scourge is very meh, it's not terribad like it used to be but it's damage isn't anything compared to Resolution's or Upheavals (Chango). Focusing purely on damage I can get it around 18K, but then you run into the same Store TP issues Torcleaver faces of very low TP return on WS. Instead if you focus a bit more on Store TP then you can get ~200 from WS and it won't jack with your x-hit.

The best use for scourge is when Sekkanoki is up, then you can do Sekka -> 1K Scourge (AM) -> Resolution for a nice light and a DPS burst from the AM effect.
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2018-08-28 21:07:23
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
The guy making the claim swears that Resolution > Scourge > Resolution will provide Best of All DPS.

He's very very confused, that won't make ***because the first two create light but Reso doesn't continue it.

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What would a BiS Scourge setup be? Something pretty similar to Upheaval I take it? Maybe a slight change here or there? Gonna go run individual DPS tests under optimal conditions (or Near-Optimal at least) to see if it holds any water at all.

Scourge is very meh, it's not terribad like it used to be but it's damage isn't anything compared to Resolution's or Upheavals (Chango). Focusing purely on damage I can get it around 18K, but then you run into the same Store TP issues Torcleaver faces of very low TP return on WS. Instead if you focus a bit more on Store TP then you can get ~200 from WS and it won't jack with your x-hit.

The best use for scourge is when Sekkanoki is up, then you can do Sekka -> 1K Scourge (AM) -> Resolution for a nice light and a DPS burst from the AM effect.

That's the exact same finding I had too. Could push it to 18k tops with maybe a 20k here or there from Multi-hit. Yeah, the easiest way to combat the STP issue is to use a COR. But even with a COR making Rag as strong as possible, that same situation makes other options much more powerful. Dunno why I do this to myself lol.
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By Afania 2018-08-28 21:09:45
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Valefor.Yandaime said: »
The guy making the claim swears that Resolution > Scourge > Resolution will provide Best of All DPS.


He probably meant scourge > reso > torcleaver.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2018-08-29 03:03:02
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Not on WAR he's not. WAR can't Torcleaver
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2018-08-29 04:36:37
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Afania said: »
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
The guy making the claim swears that Resolution > Scourge > Resolution will provide Best of All DPS.


He probably meant scourge > reso > torcleaver.


Yeah, it was a WAR claim so I hope not xD
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-08-29 07:17:57
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Valefor.Yandaime said: »
eah, the easiest way to combat the STP issue is to use a COR.

No, that's not how that works.

Samurai's Roll just elevates your current x-hit up one rank, it still needs to actually function at it's base rank. So if your shorting your build and thus giving yourself a 6-hit, using Samurai's Roll just bumps it to a 5-hit. While if your doing it right and riding a 5-hit, then using Samurai's Roll bumps it to a 4-hit.
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By stickyd420 2018-09-02 10:32:48
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maybe link your war.lua :D

lets see this i need to know everything
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By Sylph.Sokku 2018-09-04 00:18:18
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Valefor.Yandaime said: »
Afania said: »
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
The guy making the claim swears that Resolution > Scourge > Resolution will provide Best of All DPS.


He probably meant scourge > reso > torcleaver.


Yeah, it was a WAR claim so I hope not xD


What server are you even on Charles? Do you even play anymore? I thought you quit to collect swords and whistles you bought with credit card scams from csik?
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By Ragnarok.Lockfort 2018-09-07 11:51:00
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What's the go-to WS for club? Doing unafraid of the dark and wanted to know which WS to gear for.
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2018-09-07 12:54:15
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Ragnarok.Lockfort said: »
What's the go-to WS for club? Doing unafraid of the dark and wanted to know which WS to gear for.

Good question. Back in the day I used to very much enjoy True Strike, but now? Probably Hexastrike if you don’t mind picking up a Beryllium?

*Edit*

Hexastrike is a good choice: 6-8 Hit, Rolling fTP, and Crit Potential so in a WAR's hands potentially very strong.

Black Halo is very similar to Savage Blade so if you feel that's a safer bet, there's that.

Realmrazer is also an Option and seems like a Side-Step to Hexastrike. MND Based, Rolling fTP but no chance at Critical Hit.

I don't have experience with this or I could offer better insight :x
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