(Don't) Fear The Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide

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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-16 06:36:24
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Oh, forgot fighters roll. I'll fix that after work.
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By Asura.Thorva 2017-01-16 10:05:46
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Quetzacoatl said: »
My conclusion: Thorva was onto something when he noticed his WS damage was slightly higher when using at ~175% TP (1750-ish).
HA! See... I'm not crazy. I'm not.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-16 10:55:03
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Read that in Vegetas voice. Some levity before my impending doom at work.
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-01-16 10:55:28
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Speaking of Torcleaver, I've been kind of tempted to try to fully upgrade a Caladbolg. Empyreans get huge boosts from 119 to 121, and it actually turns into DRK's strongest weapon in quite a few situations.

Only problem is how expensive it is (~180m in heavy metals, ~55m in riftdross, ~60m in riftborn boulders). I've got about 130m saved up, but that's still a huge time investment in farming for the rest.

Hmm. Too bad it's so ugly.
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By Asura.Bloodlusty 2017-01-16 11:11:09
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Asura.Thorva said: »
HA! See... I'm not crazy. I'm not.

Still depends on content, the neck and ear bonus still apply at 1k tp and the attack down bonus is minimal when fighting in an alliance with a geared linkshell. For our content there is little benifit in waiting to ws, however smaller groups with less buffs your argument is true

I will leave you guys to discuss as you will, I am available ingame if you wish to ask for advice in person
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By Asura.Thorva 2017-01-16 11:49:38
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I also don't have a war for warcry tp bonus, so 175 for me generates the best overall gain. As for the content I almost only drk for kirin/woc/teles now. Rest of the time I rdm, rune, sch, blm etc.

Edit: forgot I drk/thf for Erinys


Odin.Geriond said: »
Speaking of Torcleaver, I've been kind of tempted to try to fully upgrade a Caladbolg. Empyreans get huge boosts from 119 to 121, and it actually turns into DRK's strongest weapon in quite a few situations.

Only problem is how expensive it is (~180m in heavy metals, ~55m in riftdross, ~60m in riftborn boulders). I've got about 130m saved up, but that's still a huge time investment in farming for the rest.

Hmm. Too bad it's so ugly.

I like the look of caladbolg more than the windmill fan blade of rag.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-01-16 12:47:33
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Is there something special about Amar Cluster that I'm missing? Seething+1 shits on that.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-16 13:00:12
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Lack of knowledge regarding DRKs ammo options. Amar is pretty much DRGs best for Stardiver.
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By Asura.Thorva 2017-01-16 14:20:29
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Seething +1 seems to be the most common for drks
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-16 15:41:57
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(Base Damage × pDIF x fTP) x WSDMG

pDif: 3.75 (Uncapped would favor Torcleaver by a large margin)
Savagery: TP+750 (Favors Resolution)
Fighter's Roll: Double Attack +25% (Favors Resolution)

Torcleaver:
VIT+367
DEX+188
Double Attack +27%
Quadruple Attack +3%
Weapon skill damage +60%
fTP+0.2
TP+250
Damage: 656
1.36 attack/round

Torcleaver fTP:
1000 TP 2000 TP 3000 TP
4.75 7.5 10
Multi-attack fTP:
1.0
Average: 7.5625+0.36

Damage: 30651

EDIT:
With Ragnarok
Damage: 28828





Resolution:
STR+357
DEX+273
Double Attack +73%
Quadruple Attack +3%
Weapon skill damage +8%
fTP+0.2
TP+250
Damage: 676
1.82 attack/round

Resolution fTP:
1000 TP 2000 TP 3000 TP
0.71875 1.5 2.25
Average: 11.028625

Damage: 27957

EDIT:
With Boost-STR (STR+25)
Damage: 28826



Fixed it.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-18 05:52:57
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Uhhh, have some Cross Reaper math.

Cross Reaper:
STR+340
MND+177
DEX+188
Double Attack +27%
Quadruple Attack +3%
Weapon skill damage +60%
fTP+0.2
TP+750 (Anguta+Moonshade)
Damage: 841
1.36 attack/round

Cross Reaper fTP:
1000 TP 2000 TP 3000 TP
2.0 4.0 7.0
Average: 5.7+1.36

Damage: 33051

I feeeel like I messed up somewhere, but for the life of me, I can't see where. Feel free to pick it apart if you see any issues.

Same set as Torcleaver, just with VIT augments swapped to STR. WSing at 1000 TP. Boost-STR included.
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By Ragnarok.Rezeak 2017-01-18 06:37:22
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Thanks for the effort of working that stuff out :). Was literally thinking last night I wish someone would do the same for Cross reaper.

Entropy next lol?
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-18 07:20:39
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Entropy:
INT+230
DEX+188
fTP+0.2
TP+750 (Anguta+Moonshade)
Damage: 625
1.85 attack/round

1000 TP 2000 TP 3000 TP
0.75 1.25 2.0
Average: 10.18875

Damage: 23879

Gear:
Anguta, Utu, Valorous Body, Odyssean Feet/Hands, Ignominy Legs+3, Flamma Head+1, Niqmaddu, Petrov, Moonshade, Brutal, Fotia Neck/Waist, Ankou.

Valorous/Ankou/Odyssean augmented with INT and DA.

INT scaling is terribad.
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By Asura.Evildemon 2017-01-18 08:04:36
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Sylph.Cherche said: »
Uhhh, have some Cross Reaper math.

Cross Reaper:
STR+340
MND+177
DEX+188
Double Attack +27%
Quadruple Attack +3%
Weapon skill damage +60%
fTP+0.2
TP+750 (Anguta+Moonshade)
Damage: 841
1.36 attack/round

Cross Reaper fTP:
1000 TP 2000 TP 3000 TP
2.0 4.0 7.0
Average: 5.7+1.36

Damage: 33051

I feeeel like I messed up somewhere, but for the life of me, I can't see where. Feel free to pick it apart if you see any issues.

Same set as Torcleaver, just with VIT augments swapped to STR. WSing at 1000 TP. Boost-STR included.

What gear is that with and what would it be vs apoc? Otherwise thank you for the info it is much appreciated!

Edit: never mind on the gear re-read the thread
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-18 08:15:07
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Apocalypse Cross Reaper
Damage: 24977


You take a substantial damage hit swapping to Apocalypse. TP Bonus +500 from Anguta is a winner.
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By Sylph.Darkside 2017-01-18 08:58:03
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Asura.Thorva said: »

Odin.Geriond said: »
Speaking of Torcleaver, I've been kind of tempted to try to fully upgrade a Caladbolg. Empyreans get huge boosts from 119 to 121, and it actually turns into DRK's strongest weapon in quite a few situations.

Only problem is how expensive it is (~180m in heavy metals, ~55m in riftdross, ~60m in riftborn boulders). I've got about 130m saved up, but that's still a huge time investment in farming for the rest.

Hmm. Too bad it's so ugly.

I like the look of caladbolg more than the windmill fan blade of rag.
***me too. I love the look of Cala.
I just don't have the time nor patience to finish my Masamune let alone start the process all over again for Caladbolg
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By Quetzacoatl 2017-01-18 09:38:22
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Asura.Thorva said: »
windmill fan blade of rag.

I'll one-up that and give you Copterok.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-18 11:37:00
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Honestly apoc isnt as bad as people make it, I assume anguta is in the same boat. I know my cata pull a pretty consistent 14k which is by no means amazing but the added effect allows you to tank quite ez. You only need enough hp to not get 1 shot, and probably enough to withstand 2 hits after, this means like 6500 is well over enough and easily attainable.

I honestly think with haste buffs alone drk could probably solo craver down solo like this :D I know once my pty wiped and I was able to hold it no worries until my hp boost wore, then it did a 2.2k aoe and I died haha.

I have been told by some that anguta with war-warcry on becomes just insane dmg 2450 base, which most likely will be at 3k tp all the time due to overflow.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-18 11:47:27
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Sylph.Darkside said: »
***me too. I love the look of Cala.
I just don't have the time nor patience to finish my Masamune let alone start the process all over again for Caladbolg

sry for double!
I agree cala is badass looking in my book and one of the reason I want it haha (outside of its dmg potential). Glow red on drk is very cool with the black outfits and then cala ontop of that is just wow!

However I am hating the nms a ton, 75 Hearts farmed up last 2 days, working on CC and cara now and it makes me want to /wrists in every emo drk way.

Seeing that 50% tripple dmg proc will be easy to maintain on calad I am really thinking it might favor a max multi attack set during AM3 (I can get 11% QA, 6 TA, 42 DA during tp), and high stp when down? Anyone who has calad can chime in?
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-01-18 12:25:37
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Asura.Azagarth said: »
Honestly apoc isnt as bad as people make it, I assume anguta is in the same boat.

I have been told by some that anguta with war-warcry on becomes just insane dmg 2450 base, which most likely will be at 3k tp all the time due to overflow.
There isn't a single bad RMEA for melee jobs. That said, some stand out in particular.

DRK's high fTP scaling on all its worthwhile scythe weapon skills WS's favor Anguta greatly. So much so, that Anguta DRK has some really nice potential, despite what 'everyone' likes to say about the Scythes.

Apocalypse has it's own very special niche, but that niche isn't "Top DPS Option". So, no, Anguta isn't in the same boat as Apocalypse.

Also, Distortion isn't a particularly spectacular skill chain property, but you can skill chain darkness off of a Stardiver.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-23 18:30:03
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Any work happening to update gearsets? If your having troubles getting it updated I think we should make a community effort to do so, to many new drks in game /telling me now for advice because guide isnt up to date, so there is an immediate need. :D

Also would be very nice to have an up to date lua/spreedsheet in the guide possibly at top for quick access, that essential for knowledge and playability of this great job.
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By Asura.Ganno 2017-01-25 16:00:57
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Asura.Ganno said: »
Anyone knows the effect of Ignominy Gauntlets +3 on Weapon Bash?

Weapon Bash +16 and Augments Weapon Bash.

Thanks!

bump,

asking for "Augments Weapon Bash" ,
since Weapon Bash +16 is refering to dmg.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-26 16:22:16
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Kishar ring affect the length of HP boost on drain? I assumed not but was told yes.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-01-26 16:36:02
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Asura.Ganno said: »
Asura.Ganno said: »
Anyone knows the effect of Ignominy Gauntlets +3 on Weapon Bash?

Weapon Bash +16 and Augments Weapon Bash.

Thanks!

bump,

asking for "Augments Weapon Bash" ,
since Weapon Bash +16 is refering to dmg.

I'd like to know about this, too. It could be some added effect like Blade Bash on SAM that gives them a negative status effect. Could also give tp. Gotta try it in ballista.
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By Asura.Evildemon 2017-01-26 17:00:04
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Asura.Azagarth said: »
Any work happening to update gearsets? If your having troubles getting it updated I think we should make a community effort to do so, to many new drks in game /telling me now for advice because guide isnt up to date, so there is an immediate need. :D

Also would be very nice to have an up to date lua/spreedsheet in the guide possibly at top for quick access, that essential for knowledge and playability of this great job.

You know I was just thinking about that. I'm trying to fine tune my drk for omen so I do not have to take blu and it's a pain to look back to different pages and try and balance out the best options. Also an updated gearswap would be nice. Mine is a little old and I tend to find ones with sets already set-up with either nq, hq or Dream tier sets tend to give a good base like how the blu guide is.
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By Fenrir.Pertalee 2017-01-26 17:28:22
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-- DRK LUA.
http://pastebin.com/2XKEUUA9

-- Global File with Augment Gear
http://pastebin.com/qrcug0Cb
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-26 18:51:37
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SO Kishar ring, as expected, doesnt affect drain's effect duration, neither does the neck (friend tested). I hadnt seen anything on these so I decided to do a fast test myself.

With the accessories we got (25% potency) you can get a base of 27 and 60 with DS/NS. Having Lib will boost that to 86 during DS/NV. If you decide against the accessories for whatever reason, the base is 22/49 and lib gets 33/74.

Not a bad deal really, I don't utilize my magic enough on drk but I think I will start trying to a bit more. 60 acc/str/vit w/e you feel is needed at a start of a fight isnt bad, and the duration can be decent too. I am currently testing that since we now have a 10% duration ring, and 20% head. I just dont know if these come before or after strait +seconds duration from different gear like onyx/chuparossa etc.
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By Asura.Bloodlusty 2017-01-27 00:33:31
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Asura.Azagarth said: »
Having Lib will boost that to 86

Lib + gloves + back = 89. That's pre omen gear, ill post total number once I have obtained them
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By Asura.Evildemon 2017-01-27 09:21:22
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Fenrir.Pertalee said: »
-- DRK LUA.
http://pastebin.com/2XKEUUA9

-- Global File with Augment Gear
http://pastebin.com/qrcug0Cb

if I internalized the augment gear would it work the same?
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-27 09:30:53
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Asura.Bloodlusty said: »
Asura.Azagarth said: »
Having Lib will boost that to 86

Lib + gloves + back = 89. That's pre omen gear, ill post total number once I have obtained them

Good to know :D

Also good to know then that the formula on wiki is wrong because wouldnt it be floored at each step and using ((22*1.75)*2.25) = 85 actually if you floor it at each step... maybe lib multiplier comes after or something?
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