Quiznor said: »
Random question slightly related,I'm sure it varies by state to state,but what is the US minimum wage? Can give state + wage if it helps
Edit: Minimum wage in Ireland is €8.65
Edit: Minimum wage in Ireland is €8.65
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Federal minimum is $7.25. Here in Nevada it's $8.25.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Well if they didn't pay me enough then they wouldn't be my employer. Employers hire people when there is excess work that needs to be done. They put a price on that job for what they think it is worth to try to attract people into taking it. If they offer too low for a job then they would be left with no employee because no one would take it. Once they offer a fair amount for the required work then they would have themselves an employee. Offering larger wages and salaries is meant to attract more qualified peope for more specialized jobs. Benefits are another means of attracting the best employees that the employer would like to keep on for a long time.
You brought up illegal workers. And you are right. I believe the minimum wage did lead to the huge rise in illegal workers in America, as did unions. You don't see illegal workers taking highly skilled jobs away from college graduates do you? They are jobs that are not worth the minimum wage or jobs that American's don't feel compensated enough to perform.
You brought up illegal workers. And you are right. I believe the minimum wage did lead to the huge rise in illegal workers in America, as did unions. You don't see illegal workers taking highly skilled jobs away from college graduates do you? They are jobs that are not worth the minimum wage or jobs that American's don't feel compensated enough to perform.
called it, so many pages ago.
I hate to inform you, but the idea that capitalism is the only force running the job market (supply and demand on jobs) is folly.
If people didn't need to work for a living, and just did it to have luxuries (which one day we may get there, I hope anyway) you'd have a point, however that's not the reality and people will put up with all sorts of *** to scrape by in order to provide for their families.
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
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The Move Toward Regulation
By the 1880s, however, it was beginning to become clear that markets were not free. Corporations had grown so big and powerful that they controlled markets entirely. Consumers grew enraged over the high prices that monopolies had set, while small businesses demanded protection from being squeezed out of the market. Railroad monopolies were overcharging small-time customers, especially farmers, while giving rebates to powerful politicians and favored clients.
By the 1880s, however, it was beginning to become clear that markets were not free. Corporations had grown so big and powerful that they controlled markets entirely. Consumers grew enraged over the high prices that monopolies had set, while small businesses demanded protection from being squeezed out of the market. Railroad monopolies were overcharging small-time customers, especially farmers, while giving rebates to powerful politicians and favored clients.
It's funny, those really packed housing developments/towns in China for factory workers who have poor working conditions seem all too familiar. I seem to remember children in coal mines at some point too.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Quiznor said: »
Random question slightly related,I'm sure it varies by state to state,but what is the US minimum wage? Can give state + wage if it helps
NYS min wage is $7.25 USD
Varies area to area.. in OK where my boyfriend lives I believe it's still 5.25 there.. although the cost of living is much, MUCH lower than here in MA.
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
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As of July 24, 2009, the federal minimum wage in the United States is $7.25 per hour. Some states and municipalities have set minimum wages higher than the federal level (see List of U.S. minimum wages), with the highest state minimum wage being $9.04 in Washington. Some U.S. territories (such as American Samoa) are exempt. Some types of labor are also exempt, and tipped labor must be paid a minimum of $2.13 per hour, as long as the hourly wage plus tipped income result in a minimum of $7.25 per hour.
The July 24, 2009, increase was the last of three steps of the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007. The wage increase was signed into law on May 25, 2007, as a rider to the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007. The bill also contains almost $5 billion in tax cuts for small businesses.
Among those paid by the hour in 2009, 980,000 were reported as earning exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage. Nearly 2.6 million were reported as earning wages below the minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the minimum made up 4.9 percent of all hourly-paid workers.[1]
The July 24, 2009, increase was the last of three steps of the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007. The wage increase was signed into law on May 25, 2007, as a rider to the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007. The bill also contains almost $5 billion in tax cuts for small businesses.
Among those paid by the hour in 2009, 980,000 were reported as earning exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage. Nearly 2.6 million were reported as earning wages below the minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the minimum made up 4.9 percent of all hourly-paid workers.[1]
There's more information and a list of all the minimum wages stated here on wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States
Minimum wage varies by industry in the US, but for the most part, is 7.25 and hour currently. The reason minimum wage is not 2-30 dollars an hours is simply because that is excessive. It would also lead to another depression by the overprinting of money, making it less valuable. It's the exact same thing that happened once already in post WW1 Germany, and from what history tells us, we all know how well that turned out.
but it was the fault of the Jews!
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
I know this is an absurd request, but do you have proof of this accusation?
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
^ This
If it was the bare minimum to live,Irish minimum wage (and any other irish forum user will agree to) would have to be around €15+ per hour,based on a 40 hour week
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
8.00 x 40 hours = 320 bucks per week
Add in taxes.. you're looking around 250 bucks per week
1,000 per month.
Here in MA You can get a furnished one bedroom apartment for 400-500 a month with utilities.
Ok, you're down to 500 bucks.
Food.. if you budget costs for one person.. around 150-200 dollars a month.
So that's 300 bucks.
That last 300 bucks is supposed to pay for your electric and any other items you have to buy during the month.
NO CELL PHONES. NO INTERNETS. NO CABLE. NOTHING. ELSE. PERIOD.
They call it MINIMAL for a reason.. Minimal living. No luxuries.
What YOU'RE spouting is "HEY LET'S GIVE EVERYONE ALL THIS MONEY SO THEY CAN BUY WHATEVER THEY WANT."
Wiiiiish that's how life worked.. but nope.
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Quiznor said: »
Random question slightly related,I'm sure it varies by state to state,but what is the US minimum wage? Can give state + wage if it helps
NYS min wage is $7.25 USD
Varies area to area.. in OK where my boyfriend lives I believe it's still 5.25 there.. although the cost of living is much, MUCH lower than here in MA.
VA has pretty much no special laws above that of the federal ones, love the commonwealth right to work policy. /vomit
I make $15 an hour, temp position though. I left a job making $7.65, before that made $8.50 and before that made $7.02
I'm also a full time student, who takes grant money. Also eligible for food stamps. Haven't applied for them yet though, need to get around to that though.
I wouldn't mind minimum wage staying at $7.25 if there was more healthcare reform (single payer, yes please), rent limits, and forced competition for the electric company. Here at least there's a monopoly, and prices are outrageous.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
Holllllly ***. They dont just pick numbers willy nilly, for no *** reason. There may be no one set formula to calculate it, but there are a ***ton of considerations that go into..
I really simply believe that Amandarius is just another callous thinking individual who is also quite possibly "privileged", unlike the rest of the working class US.
This is also a problem with Libertarian leaning Republicans. They simply cannot understand or have empathy for the working class in the US. They believe everyone can get a [well paying] job easily off top-- never mind racial, religious, political, or sexist bias that outright keeps people from getting a job at all. They also believe CEO/shareholders/job owners can and should do whatever they please, ethical or unethical, to maintain or grow their income.
I also really don't want to just, but that's the way he comes off.
This is also a problem with Libertarian leaning Republicans. They simply cannot understand or have empathy for the working class in the US. They believe everyone can get a [well paying] job easily off top-- never mind racial, religious, political, or sexist bias that outright keeps people from getting a job at all. They also believe CEO/shareholders/job owners can and should do whatever they please, ethical or unethical, to maintain or grow their income.
I also really don't want to just, but that's the way he comes off.
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Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
8.00 x 40 hours = 320 bucks per week
Add in taxes.. you're looking around 250 bucks per week
1,000 per month.
Here in MA You can get a furnished one bedroom apartment for 400-500 a month with utilities.
Ok, you're down to 500 bucks.
Food.. if you budget costs for one person.. around 150-200 dollars a month.
So that's 300 bucks.
That last 300 bucks is supposed to pay for your electric and any other items you have to buy during the month.
NO CELL PHONES. NO INTERNETS. NO CABLE. NOTHING. ELSE. PERIOD.
They call it MINIMAL for a reason.. Minimal living. No luxuries.
What YOU'RE spouting is "HEY LET'S GIVE EVERYONE ALL THIS MONEY SO THEY CAN BUY WHATEVER THEY WANT."
Wiiiiish that's how life worked.. but nope.
Don't forget no vehicle to get from/to work, no healthcare.
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
8.00 x 40 hours = 320 bucks per week
Add in taxes.. you're looking around 250 bucks per week
1,000 per month.
Here in MA You can get a furnished one bedroom apartment for 400-500 a month with utilities.
Ok, you're down to 500 bucks.
Food.. if you budget costs for one person.. around 150-200 dollars a month.
So that's 300 bucks.
That last 300 bucks is supposed to pay for your electric and any other items you have to buy during the month.
NO CELL PHONES. NO INTERNETS. NO CABLE. NOTHING. ELSE. PERIOD.
They call it MINIMAL for a reason.. Minimal living. No luxuries.
What YOU'RE spouting is "HEY LET'S GIVE EVERYONE ALL THIS MONEY SO THEY CAN BUY WHATEVER THEY WANT."
Wiiiiish that's how life worked.. but nope.
On the flip side,some places here (different country obviously) wont employ you unless you have a landline phone,a mobile phone and a vlid,working email to access almost anytime.And thats even a basic job mind you.Its catch 22.Places COULD employ you to live in a situation with minimum wage would do you,but the world doesnt work that way sadly.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"It's called "minimum" for a reason.. the lowest amount it would take for someone to work that 40 hours a week and still be able to live off it."
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
That is not what minimum wage is, it does not consider any cost of living, what a job is worth or have anything to do with 40 hours a week. It is a completely arbitrary number that politicians come up with in each state. No thought whatsoever goes into it.
So do you believe that the person working the drive-thru at McChokeandpuke deserves to make the same wage as the E.R. doctor saving some poor *** who's having a heart attack due to McChokeandpuke?
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