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By Escafreya 2012-10-09 08:19:22
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Ive been playing FFXI for a while now and I just started having a problem where when I'm moving around and canceling out of menus, my camera stutters. It's not a big problem but I recently figured out that holding the cancel button causes the camera to lock in place. Is there a way to disable this. I use a PS2 controller with a USB connector and I play with windower but im pretty sure its not caused by either of those. It started happening after one of the last updates and I'm not sure what to do.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2012-10-09 14:23:26
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It's the mouse. That happens when you move the pointer to the edge of the screen and it's stuck on the "mouse control mode". If you use windowed mode and switch back to the game by clicking inside of the game window you will have either a stuck camera or a running char (depends on how you set up the mouse control).

Clicking around with the two mouse buttons inside the window (one at a time) usually fix the issue. To completely avoid the problem use the taskbar to bring the game window back. Alternatively you can click on the top bar of the game window. Just avoid clicking inside, where the game image is displayed.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-10-09 14:50:41
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I just need to click in the top left corner of my ffxi window with my mouse if this happends.
Why the top left corner? no idea.
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By Leviathan.Behemothx 2012-10-09 14:51:17
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Escafreya said: »
Ive been playing FFXI for a while now and I just started having a problem where when I'm moving around and canceling out of menus, my camera stutters. It's not a big problem but I recently figured out that holding the cancel button causes the camera to lock in place. Is there a way to disable this. I use a PS2 controller with a USB connector and I play with windower but im pretty sure its not caused by either of those. It started happening after one of the last updates and I'm not sure what to do.

It's actually the keyboard scheme, if you change it to full keyboard (in the ingame config) instead of compact2 it won't stutter your camera while pressing the gamepad cancel anymore.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2012-10-09 15:03:17
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
I just need to click in the top left corner of my ffxi window with my mouse if this happends.
Why the top left corner? no idea.

Anywhere works. As long the mouse pointer is inside of the game image window area and you click L and R mouse buttons(as you usually can't tell which button will unstuck it).
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-10-09 15:16:48
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Fenrir.Mariane said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
I just need to click in the top left corner of my ffxi window with my mouse if this happends.
Why the top left corner? no idea.

Anywhere works. As long the mouse pointer is inside of the game image window area and you click L and R mouse buttons(as you usually can't tell which button will unstuck it).

I think there's something funky with my resolution and that I fullscreen the little window.
So I gotta press up in the left corner :P
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-10-09 20:35:24
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In the FFXI config, there are some menu options down at the bottom:

Operate menus with movement controls
Operate camera with moment controls
Toggle movement, menu and or camera controls.

You may try changing those to blank(very bottom option) if they have a setting, particularly if that setting is the same as your cancel button.

I'm pretty sure this is what I did when it happened to me. Might also be Enable slider, enable hat switches since I've no clue what those do.

Hope that helps.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2012-10-09 21:52:52
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Might also be Enable slider, enable hat switches since I've no clue what those do.

Hope that helps.

"Operate menus with movement controls" will cause the analog axis that is assigned to character movements to operate as the cursor keys on the keyboard on the menus.

"Operate camera with movement controls" will do the same as above when the button is pressed, but the target will be the camera motion.

"Toggle movement, menu, and/or camera controls" will do the same as the other two mentioned functions but on a cycle manner.

Slider I am not sure but might refer to the "throttle" analog axis that some controllers have. I use a PC USB controller that works like a PS2 pad so it does not have such a button.

Hat switches refer to the PoV (Point of View) hat some analog controllers have. In FFXI it's used to control the menus or cycle targets while the cursor is on "free mode".

While this might appear to be irrelevant to the OP post, it might be related to the issue if there is or have been a game pad connected to the computer at some point.
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By Escafreya 2012-10-10 19:37:12
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Thanks a bunch Behemothx, I did what you said and I haven't had a problem since. =^v^=
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2012-10-13 08:50:06
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Someone should report that problem to SE, then.

It sure "feels" like a UI programming bug ... :\
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