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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-09-15 18:50:09
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I guess I can't relate since I've never had a headache watching a movie before, but as much as people complain about it it amazes me how often they keep going back to torture themselves.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-09-15 19:12:15
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
3D's a gimmick, nothing more. I don't know many people who can honestly say that it enhances their experience.

only 3D experience I have had that I would pay for again is the Terminator show at Universal Studios. Dont even know if its still there, but that was great. Every movie I have seen in 3D has been a waste of money, and often is barely noticeable.
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-09-15 19:15:07
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The context of the original claim was in regard to graphical capability hitting a plateau with current display technology until 3D is achievable, and defining 3D not as the infantile 3D achievable today (and 60 years ago), but a more advanced 3D achievable with future technology such as holographic projection or something else entirely.

A console doesn't need a whole lot more overhead to produce the illusion of parallax (and that's exactly what is being done, no more) because no information is being added that wasn't already there. For instance, there is a tree in the foreground, and while thanks to parallax it may appear as if it is obscuring the background behind it, no matter how I tilt my head I'm never going to see behind that tree because that information simply isn't there.

That's not always going to be true. I think one day we're going to have 3D that not only doesn't require glasses but is subject to perspective just as much as reality is, in the sense that you could walk around it if you wanted to.

I'll concede it's probably not fair to call something "crap" based on its comparison to something that currently only exists on Star Trek. Remember however that this is double edged: Just because it's the best we can do at the time, does not make something absolutely fantabulous.

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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-09-15 19:36:24
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Kong, I think Sony and MSoft are working on the next stage in VR btw. It's like a new headset they are developing.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-09-15 19:39:03
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Kong, I think Sony and MSoft are working on the next stage in VR btw. It's like a new headset they are developing.

The Oculus or something else?
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-15 19:42:07
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Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
Jetackuu said: »
and you'd be right sir, damn we're agreeing, the world is ending...
I'm afraid too

I like how Krizz came to life to "like" my comment, lol.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-09-15 19:43:16
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I think that might have been what it was called. It sounded like they are taking VR to the next level. Could be pretty sick actually. I saw a war mech type game at ACEN this year in Chicago, that had a full visor and like 20 buttons. So the technology might be in the infant stage really. It looked rad lol
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-09-15 19:51:29
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VR is another thing that was first done quite some time ago, and I don't expect today's take on it to be any less gimmicky.

I don't think the nature of technology 20 years from now is going to take a predictable form. As cliche as it sounds, we can't even imagine it. We sure can derail a thread, though
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2012-09-15 20:00:41
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Ragnarok.Kongming said: »
VR is another thing that was first done quite some time ago, and I don't expect today's take on it to be any less gimmicky.

I don't think the nature of technology 20 years from now is going to take a predictable form. As cliche as it sounds, we can't even imagine it. We sure can derail a thread, though

The Oculus looks pretty cool though.
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-15 20:00:44
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Holograms could make VR rooms quite possible, then again we could essentially do VR rooms now, but wouldn't be as cool.

(as far as headsets go, no thanks, Virtual Boy).
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-09-15 21:30:53
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Jetackuu said: »
Holograms could make VR rooms quite possible, then again we could essentially do VR rooms now, but wouldn't be as cool.

(as far as headsets go, no thanks, Virtual Boy).

Yes... one failed project means every single advancement in that field, will fail just the same lol.
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-15 21:43:03
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Holograms could make VR rooms quite possible, then again we could essentially do VR rooms now, but wouldn't be as cool.

(as far as headsets go, no thanks, Virtual Boy).

Yes... one failed project means every single advancement in that field, will fail just the same lol.

considering the reasons it was awful(and the industry being notorious for not learning from their mistakes), in this case: yes.

Just take this as one of the reasons it was awful, and that it would be repeated: ***was heavy, hurt people's necks, I don't see current tech being any better in that field, nothing that would be affordable anyway.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-09-15 22:23:17
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made people blind
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-09-15 22:34:59
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Looked into the oculus rift... it all sounds good, but I've seen so many similar projects meet 2 possible outcomes: 1) never sees the light of day, or 2) releases to a niche market with a handful of games, one of which might be any good at all, and is promptly forgotten about by everyone, less the suckers who bought one who will be sure never to buy another VR headset again.

Also agree about the weight. I'm with tiger when it comes to having to wear even glasses, and that's far lighter than a headset. The oculus rift is .22kg which is about as much as a 3DS, so just imagine taping one of those to your face for a 4 hour gaming session. Not the best analogy.

Though weight won't kill it outright. It all comes down to consumer adoption rate and developer support, which hinge the most, paradoxically, on each other. Not saying it's impossible, after all the Wii U has gathered both well before release (oooh, we're full circle now). On the other hand, not even Nintendo could sell the public on VR, so... if there's a point to be had here, I don't remember what it is anymore ^- ^;
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By Asura.Railock 2012-09-16 17:25:48
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Heh, wow... at first I was pretty skeptical, no, reluctant on ever getting another Nintendo console.

After seeing some of the lineup trailers, I'll admit that I'm impressed. Nearly convinced me to pony up the cash for one by launch.

However, after the Wii (And, Gamecube for that matter) I don't want to see third party companies fizzle out. It looks like a very strong third party support right off the bat, even if many are ports of existing games with some new bells and whistles. That was my main issue with Ninendo consoles, being that it was great for first party titles and a few sleeper hits.

Seeing Tekken and a fully fledged CoD BO2 really surprised me, and even Arkham City didn't look as bad as I thought, as I recall some older screenshots with seriously bad texture mapping. Man, all I need is for Bethesda to be on board and release a new Fallout/Elder Scrolls game and I'm probably sold.

Oh, can't go wrong with a new Smash Bros either. Wish the HD was bigger, but I think you can upgrade it right? Going to wait until post launch to buy one if I'm still interested though. Don't want to make the same mistake a third time in a row.
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By Kimble2013 2012-09-16 17:30:57
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Bethesda said they won't support the Wii U (for now anyways) because they don't feel like trying to make a game work with the tablet. Doesn't surprise me that since Bethesda doesn't feel like making games that don't glitch on a PC. (I like Bethesda though, lol)

Also, was able to place a back up pre-order the for Deluxe at my Best Buy incase Game Stop does screw me over.
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By Asura.Railock 2012-09-16 17:34:51
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Kimble2013 said: »
Bethesda said they won't support the Wii U (for now anyways) because they don't feel like trying to make a game work with the tablet. Doesn't surprise me that since Bethesda doesn't feel like making games that don't glitch on a PC. (I like Bethesda though, lol)

Also, was able to place a back up pre-order the for Deluxe at my Best Buy incase Game Stop does screw me over.

Bethesda, I am disappoint. Would of been cool to use the tablet as a Pip-boy, SO MUCH POTENTIAL! (Sorry, caps) Good luck, I don't trust Gamestop at all either.
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By Jetackuu 2012-09-16 17:36:16
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The hard drive is built in, and flash memory, probably not replaceable.


However the Wii-U will support expandable memory (aka USB), and the reasoning is sound, instead of trying to throw overpriced proprietary expandable memory for more profit.
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By Kimble2013 2012-09-16 17:42:45
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Nintendo said that with the price of storage dropping every day, they didn't feel it was right to force people into buying storage that they release. It would be cheaper for the customer to just go out and pick how much space is right for them. Honestly, I think its great. You can get 1T of space cheap now.

And yeah, I thought the same, the Tablet would be ideal for a Pip-boy, lol.

The Gamestop I go to is actually nice and has never given me problems so I don't think i'll have a problem. They have ensured me twice now that I was first to pre-order so I will get it first shipment no matter what.

I've pre-ordered like 5-6 things from them in the last week so i'm sure they are happy with me, lol.
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By Sylph.Michizane 2012-09-16 17:44:28
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I find it funny how some people say that Nintendo is using the tablet gamepad as a gimmic, yet when Microsoft unviled its 'Smart Glass' idea it was hailed as inovative. I mean seriously? Microsoft basicly copy/paste the Nintendo's tablet idea from E3 2011. Well, at least Nintendo has the balls to make a tablet designed for the system whereas Microsoft is saying buy your own.

*edit* So there is no confusion by who I mean by "some people." I'm talking about the video game news/reviewing sites nowndays.
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By Kimble2013 2012-09-16 17:50:42
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Sony is going to do the same with the Vita. People will always try and copy.
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By Sylph.Michizane 2012-09-16 17:58:00
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Sony is going to do the same with the Vita. People will always try and copy.

Not really the same thing... but if you want to bring that into the discuss, then that was also Nintendo's idea. GameCube+GBA games. FF:CC and Zelda: FSA would be a proto-type for the type of games we are seeing now.

*edit* BTW my point wasn't about people copying. Its about people saying that Microsoft's 'Smart Glass' idea is invoative, and Nintendo's Wii U gamepad is a gimmic. They are the same ****ing thing! And Nintendo came up with it first and gets no credit @.@
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By Kimble2013 2012-09-16 18:03:40
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Using the Vita as a tablet is not the same. Gotcha.
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By Sylph.Michizane 2012-09-16 18:08:06
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Kimble2013 said: »
Using the Vita as a tablet is not the same. Gotcha.

Well for one I haven't read anything saying they are going to use the Vita as a tablet. I've only read about using it as a dual screen.
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By Sylph.Michizane 2012-09-16 18:09:33
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Kimble2013 said: »
Using the Vita as a tablet is not the same. Gotcha.

/sigh please read before posting...
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-09-16 18:11:08
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Sylph.Michizane said: »
Kimble2013 said: »
Sony is going to do the same with the Vita. People will always try and copy.

Not really the same thing... but if you want to bring that into the discuss, then that was also Nintendo's idea. GameCube+GBA games. FF:CC and Zelda: FSA would be a proto-type for the type of games we are seeing now.

*edit* BTW my point was about people copying. Its about people saying that Microsoft's 'Smart Glass' idea is invoative, and Nintendo's Wii U gamepad is a gimmic. They are the same ****ing thing! And Nintendo came up with it first and gets no credit @.@


microsoft isn't forcing people to play games with their smartglass >.> and they are using cellphones / tablets you already own.

nintendo is forcing people to buy an overpriced outdated spec of a console and the only reason the price is so high is because we have to pay for the gimmick of a tablet-controller. I think nintendo would have gold if they made the tablet-controller just an addon rather than forcing 3rd party companies to design or port their game to the wii u around their tablet-controller.

(lets face it, most of the wiiu 3rd party games are going to be ports)
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By Kimble2013 2012-09-16 18:18:01
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First of all, reports are saying the Wii U is 80% better than a PS3 and only about 20% weaker than what a 720 will be. Its outdated as far as comparing to PC is but so is every other console when they come out.

And whats funny is, people bitched that the Wii didn't get games that other consoles get, out of the gate, the Wii U will have more cross platform support (Mass Effect 3, Tekken Tag, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed 3, Darksiders II) but people *** "those games are already out!" Then they get a 3rd party game like Bayonetta and people *** that its only going to be on the Wii U. lol.

You can call anything a gimmick but really, won't have any idea how he public will take it till it comes out.

Can say what you want, but the Wii was the highest selling console world wide. They seem to be doing alright.
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2012-09-16 18:26:13
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Jetackuu said: »
instead of trying to throw overpriced proprietary expandable memory for more profit.

I still don't get why they didn't just allow the user to upgrade the HDD.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-09-16 18:38:20
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Kimble2013 said: »
First of all, reports are saying the Wii U is 80% better than a PS3 and only about 20% weaker than what a 720 will be. Its outdated as far as comparing to PC is but so is every other console when they come out.

And whats funny is, people bitched that the Wii didn't get games that other consoles get, out of the gate, the Wii U will have more cross platform support (Mass Effect 3, Tekken Tag, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed 3, Darksiders II) but people *** "those games are already out!" Then they get a 3rd party game like Bayonetta and people *** that its only going to be on the Wii U. lol.

You can call anything a gimmick but really, won't have any idea how he public will take it till it comes out.

Can say what you want, but the Wii was the highest selling console world wide. They seem to be doing alright.

can you link to these reports please?


also; the wii only sold that much because of its mass appeal to kids and general public. (also lets not forget it was much cheaper compared to the other consoles)
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By Kimble2013 2012-09-16 18:41:47
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Im trying to find it but reports i've read has said the 720 will be using the same or close to the same GPU as the Wii U. Also, i've read reports that it will support directx 11. Really won't know for sure till Nintendo states the full specs or when it comes out.

And honestly, if it sales it sales, in the end that's what business is.
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