[Dev] Merit Cap And Category Adjustments

How is it flawed? Versatility simply means that it's an option. You're not going to ignore inviting a Warrior to an event solely because he isn't fully-merited as Warrior.

If a Blue Mage can get an invite to Voidwatch with barely 30 spells without anyone batting an eye (I've seen it happen before), then I sure as heck don't think people are going to not invite him on the grounds that he doesn't have Requiescat 5/5 merited.

Do you even know what versatility is? Here, let me get a dictionary for you.

ver·sa·tile (vûrs-tl, -tl)
adj.
1. Capable of doing many things competently.
2. Having varied uses or serving many functions.

Allowing us to merit everything would increase our competency in various functions, ie increasing versatility. Requiescat in particular is a great example because it's an efficient way of dealing with Pil's shield, bypassing Invincible, and damaging resistant monsters such as flans (hello Nyzul). A BLU without Requiescat brings less to the table than a BLU with Requiescat.

And yes, I would discriminate between WARs based on their merits. A recent VW run with a certain WAR who didn't have Tomahawk merited was a pointed reminder about that subject.

In all fairness it's no longer a proc? lol idk, i have it at 5/5 lol

Didn't they remove all merit spells/abilities last update, or am I crazy?

WAR ability 5 didn't get proc'd and we had a WAR. Take that for what you will.

Actually, if memory serves it was before the June update. Recent is relative I guess, I was kind of logging in once every week or two for a while there. It's true that the example is no longer relevant though.

then it was voke and nobody voked at all (if this was after the last update)

edit: but pre-update yes i would have been mad as heck if a war ja 5 wasn't procd because it's far too easy to determine what it is.

Yes, allowing a person to merit everything would increase versatility, but that doesn't mean that you're not already versatile to begin with.

I really don't want to argue, but the point I'm trying to make is that even if you aren't specialized specifically in one job does not mean that it's not useful (at least, not from what I've seen from the community as of late).

I actually respect and admire your prejudice against that Warrior who didn't know what he was doing. It's the fact that there aren't as many people like you that I'm losing interest in this game. But sadly, the versatility I speak of is because most people just don't care.

Most people seem to not care that the Blue Mage they just invited is missing half of his Voidwatch procs. Most people don't even bat an eye at the fact that the White Mage they just invited doesn't have Cure, Cure II, Cure III, Raise II, and Raise III. People seem to be pleased with bare-bones adequacy.

If people actually cared, like you do Nightfyre, then fully-meriting every job would be necessary for versatility. But the majority of the community just doesn't care...

Which is it?

Y'know what, if you're not even going to bother to read the post I made, I'm out.

I did read it, but it felt like appeasement given that you opened with a contradictory statement. Your passive-aggressive response isn't helping.

I'd argue that the current mindset is not significantly different than that at 75 cap. I spent some time in shout shells back at 75 cap, nevermind some of the people in my social shell, and the people who demand inferior rolls from their CORs (if they have buff jobs at all) are the same people who half-wiped to every Sky god at 75, who couldn't clear T2 Einherjar because nobody got haste, much less BRD buffs, etc. How many pickup DDs used food anywhere? People would rather try and fail mindlessly over and over than put a little thought and effort into things and drastically improve their chances for sucess.

Should i say "Thanks you Lv99 & Abyssea?"

The ever-convenient target, but no.

Have to admit the game recently lacked of content that required our full attention >.>;

People still pay attention to procs in VW and aby. Without proc's we'd all be screwed. People do and need to, pay attention during content in this stage of the game. There is just no need for low level spells when you can grind to higher levels quickly. That's like asking somebody to have a lvl 40-50-60-even 70 gear sets as they burn through all 40 of those levels in 1 day in abyssea. Why would they need it? If they are never going to use it, why would they waste the time to obtain that stuff (barring useful AF). Raise 3 doesn't matter because it's expensive and exp isn't even an issue in the modern game.

I dunno about anyone else but I Have run out of ***to merit! So now I have to level new jobs.

I still don't see how anyone could think that capping merits adds versatility to jobs when there are only a certain number of things per job that you should be meriting to begin with.

You could say that the WAR who merits Defender Recast and Aggressive Aim is being versatile, but I'd also tell you that the guy who can't spell or talk properly at age 25 is just "special".

id only care for another 5-10 levels in the ws category to merit another ws or 2

Then the baby fell into a vat of chemicals, and came out looking like The Joker, and started shooting people while blowing on a party favor.

Obviously the idea of merits is to add diversity between players of the same job. I'd be thrilled if SE could figure out how to add merits that are all equally useful and people had to choose. Of course people tend to math things out so precisely in this game that even if they did a really fantastic job of making a variety of seemingly equally useful merits people would figure out which ones are a tiny bit more useful on paper and go with those.

I really have no idea how SE came up with the job specific merits to begin with. It looks to me like they decided on how many points people would be able to use, then came up with that many decent categories +/- 1 or 2, and then invented a bunch of nearly useless crap that nobody in their right mind would use to add as filler so they could say, 'look, you can choose between all these and specialize your character the way you want to!'

Stop focusing on the negative part of the post, they're giving us new/more stuff. I'm happy.

I agree with whoever said they should make it to where you should be able to max out all the meritable weaponskills. I have Samurai, Warrior, Thief, Redmage, White Mage, Monk 99 to name a few and I hate having to choose between good weaponskills such as Resolution for Warrior, Reqiescat for RDM, Exenterator for THF, Shijin Spiral for MNK, etc. I just wish I could merit them all because they're all decent, with a few really good ones. Everything else I could give a ***less about, cause the rest is fine with how it is. They shouldn't make it to where you can max everything, just the WS :X yesplz x1000.

I'd really love to merit 2 more weaponskills :<

Entropy, Resolution, Upheaval, Last Stand and Reqiescat plx!
Any others after that would just be a small bonus for me, but having 5 would be really sweet >_>
3 just is'nt enough these days where we play a bajillion jobs

choices are a part of life and strategy

i like that you have to "specialize youself" and not just everony is the same

True. I agree with that, but it's kinda hard to choose between such good choices when I'm practically forced to level multiple jobs do having the merit WS on all or at least increase it to say 5 would help a lot. Not saying I don't agree with specializing I'd just rather all my jobs be good if I had that option.

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will have to wait for Kali to post it to get the pretty bbcode stuff

In any case, +24 STR or DEX from merits is gonna be kinda HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Shame about no more WS merits...

24? wow.
I kinda hope they cap single stats at 12 :p

They may keep the same max per stat, but the overall will be 24.

Sounds like +12 STR and +12 DEX to me.

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