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By Odin.Ehnkil 2012-06-14 13:15:15
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Anybody have any specifics on Phase Displacer/Void Cluster? I'm quite interested to know just how weak you can get these NMs. The only groups that I ever see start forming to go through the first 3 paths usual die out around 6-8/18.

I was/am still fairly reluctant to jump on the Voidwatch bandwagon but still want to at least go through them for the OCD factor of needing to finish everything or in case I ever feel like actually dropping money on any of the gear.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2012-06-15 17:05:32
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All I know is on BG Wiki it says if you use 5 it significantly lowers the monster's attack power. Not sure if they do anything else.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-06-15 20:38:07
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Linkshell-mate joined a Kalasutrax run today where someone brought displacers, they popped and proc'd white and killed in 30 seconds.

I made sure to confirm he wasn't exaggerating and no reason he'd lie.

Also apparently they only used 2 clusters when they popped.

inb4 HQ DD's can kill it that fast anyways, I know that. This was a pick up group >_>
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By Bahamut.Boogerballs 2012-06-15 20:45:40
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we used 2 on Fjalar (Chairguy) and he went down in less than a minute. we also used 2 on Brekekex and the same thing happened, we also did Isarukitsck with 3 and that was just a joke. I think u only need 1-2
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2012-06-15 21:00:23
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Maybe I can finally get Athos now.
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By Ashandarei 2012-06-15 21:33:46
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Bot-Rex with 1 weakening item is a complete joke... With 5, it's almost hilarious but you'll still want to use fool's on chainspell, the spells still hurt.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-06-15 21:40:17
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So pretty much a group of perle DD's can now clear jeuno T6 with no effort, can't wait to see them in prov groups lol
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-06-15 21:57:07
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can they even be used on prov? don't sound right.
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By Leviathan.Darkcloudx 2012-06-15 21:59:05
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I don't think they can be used on prov
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-06-15 22:01:37
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yeah dident think so
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2012-06-15 22:04:04
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defense lowered too, max HP? or just their attack? just curious.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2012-06-15 22:08:39
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Odin.Ehnkil said: »
Anybody have any specifics on Phase Displacer/Void Cluster? I'm quite interested to know just how weak you can get these NMs. The only groups that I ever see start forming to go through the first 3 paths usual die out around 6-8/18.

I was/am still fairly reluctant to jump on the Voidwatch bandwagon but still want to at least go through them for the OCD factor of needing to finish everything or in case I ever feel like actually dropping money on any of the gear.

1) The voidwatch "bandwagon"? Doing an event means you're hopping on a bandwagon? I dont even...

2) Even w/o clusters/displacers 8 people is plenty for t1-3 path in each of the cities, and you shouldnt have any problem getting more people for any of the t4s in the cities seeing as how they all have a decent drop still
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By Xenshi 2012-06-15 22:14:09
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Used one on Pil and went down like a two dollar pro. Not 100% sure if it lowers just attack/defense on the mob or apply to all stats such as str, dex, mnd cause I didn't check to see if nukes did more damage. Though even with one used on anything you will notice a huge difference in your WS damage.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-06-15 22:22:32
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Yeah uh, we kind of used 5 on Fjalar last night to be safe.

Maybe 25 seconds.
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By Odin.Maddii 2012-06-15 22:23:07
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shouldnt be possible on Prov, since the description states, you choose how many you use from the Planar Rift. And you dont spawn Prov via a Planar Rift.
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By Ashandarei 2012-06-15 22:35:20
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Bahamut.Bojack said: »
defense lowered too, max HP? or just their attack? just curious.

Lowers everything. HP is a noticeable drop, plus defense is lower too so... more damage and less HP.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-06-18 08:17:26
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Used a phase displacer on Pil yesterday. No parse to back it up, but he seemed to have significantly less HP if nothing else. We killed him so fast we barely had time to cap red. Was easily the fastest/easiest Pil I've ever fought. I'm wondering if it would be gauche to start asking people to bring them or chip in gil for them to speed up pick up groups.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-06-18 08:57:11
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5 clusters, llew and I dualboxing:


Edit: The mob had about 50,000hp, fantics up so no idea how much it hit for, ninja had like 50% evasion rate, average VS 4200, a stonega 4 hit me for 132 w/ only shell stopping magic dmg, looks like it lowers attributes based on crit rate, but not directly defense(probably only from vit) because the ninja was hitting for much lower than I using relatively low attack build.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-06-22 03:52:36
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Odin.Sawtelle said: »
some amazing stuff

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By Castoth 2012-06-22 04:07:37
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Has anyone gotten one of the big ticket items while using a cluster? If so, might be enough for me to try this game again for a month. If going to repeat VW endlessly, might as well make the fights take one minute.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-06-22 04:15:03
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Castoth said: »
Has anyone gotten one of the big ticket items while using a cluster? If so, might be enough for me to try this game again for a month. If going to repeat VW endlessly, might as well make the fights take one minute.

I got Gardyloo Pants (admittedly situational at best, but gotta start somewhere with mdt set) and was in a party with someone who got Toci's yesterday, both while using 1 or more void clusters. There seems to be some resistance from players about using the clusters, but I love being able to kill 3 Pil in under 10 minutes with a pick-up group.
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By Castoth 2012-06-22 04:20:56
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Bahamut.Cantontai said: »

I got Gardyloo Pants (admittedly situational at best, but gotta start somewhere with mdt set) and was in a party with someone who got Toci's yesterday, both while using 1 or more void clusters. There seems to be some resistance from players about using the clusters, but I love being able to kill 3 Pil in under 10 minutes with a pick-up group.

That's...insane. Did Tanaka actually do something reasonable for once? Now I have to decide before conquest tally if I want to renew or not, to get as many clusters as possible.
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2012-06-22 04:27:24
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Castoth said: »
Bahamut.Cantontai said: »

That's...insane. Did Tanaka actually do something reasonable for once? Now I have to decide before conquest tally if I want to renew or not, to get as many clusters as possible.[/spoiler]

The cost isn't cheap, but I think moving forward it's going to make sense for pick-up groups.

Caveat: I succeeded in leading a ToAU VW clear and failed an attempted Tavnazian clear with void clusters and discovered they are not as effective when dealing with NMs that spawn adds, but I imagine they would still make smaller parties viable at worst.
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By Odin.Aschmann 2013-01-22 15:43:11
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Wiped Duo (NIN/WAR + DNC/WAR) on Tsui-Goab @2% with 5 Displacers.
WIN with Trio (NIN/DNC + DNC/WAR + BLM/RDM + 5 Phase Displacer's), Ignored Adds and straight Kill Main NM just try to get some !! for new Temps.

Easy fight.
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