[Dev] FoV Tabs And GoV Prowess Adjustments

better food, or have the food do more stat bonuses, same stats.

longer haste...

warping, while would be cool, is kinda lulzy, cept maybe warping to a different book in the same area.

or just enabling people to warp to certain areas that they have to take a long trek to, even if said areas are kind of obsolete.

maybe trading points for CP, IS or AN?

05-22-2012 01:02 PM [source]
Camate Community Rep	Greetings! I’d like to pass on a couple more responses to ideas we have been seeing for tab usage. Signet This would be a nice effect to have and as long as there are no problems we can look into it. Enhanced movement speed This effect would also be possible and seems reasonable. We will look into this as a Sprinter’s Drink type of effect. Warping to the ??? for Elite Training I believe this would be a way to warp to the ??? for Elite Training when in the area of the respective Field Manual. It doesn’t seem like any problems would arise, so we will look into this as well.
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These ideas are great, but frankly coming far too late, as these should have been implemented when FoV/GoV first came out. Better late than never I suppose. Also a currency exchange would be pretty nice; exchanging excessive tabs for Allied Notes, Imperial Standing or Conquest Points.

An idea on the official forums that I personally would like to see is exchange tabs for the rare/ex item in the zone.

I would hope for a very expensive price tag, but to me that is fair as sometimes you could spend weeks or even a month in the same zone never leaving and still you could end up walking out empty handed. I personally feel that nothing in this game is worth the dedication of never leaving a zone for a month because luck is not on your side. If you end up doing GoV enough to earn the required tab amount to purchase the item you are after I see nothing wrong with that and feel that it is basically the same thing except one is a surprise and the other is just having something to spend your hard work on.

Would be nice, but limited I think. But it would be pretty nice to exp all day in Fei'Yin and be able to walk out with a Vali Bow without having to lose my sanity like I have in the past.

I think she meant the special r/e item from the casket. Ie prouesse ring, other skillup earrings etc

Oh, well I suppose that works too as the old zone's treasure uses would be limited in function these days. I'll go with that instead lol.

But more so than items, I'd like to see more tab options available for transportation and efficiency while exping. Better food, longer haste, maybe even en-spells or spike effects.

And as I mentioned in that thread on the OF, that idea, while well-meaning, is kind of dumb. People are suggesting 30-50k for the rare/ex item while forgetting even the hardest GoV pages cap out at 500 tabs an hour, TOPS. Getting that many tabs is like buying brews at 2 million cruor; you might do it once and then immediately realize how pointless it was.

The originally-proposed idea of abyssea-ish keys for brown chests at 500 tabs a pop was MUCH better.

getting signet and warping to the same books within a dungeon are great ideas, imo

I think the opinion of whether it's worth it or not will differ from player to player based on the luck they have had so far with GoV.

I personally am for it as I spent many weeks on and off trying to get a fishing torque. If I could of bought it with 25-50k tabs I would of as the surprise of finding it in the chest was vastly overwhelmed with the hate I had for GoV and how I never wanted to do it again.

Seconded. I have over 100k tabs on my main account, most of which was done pre-auto-repeat and much of which was done before GoV. At the moment I'm slowly burning them with Teleport-Altep -> warp home, but I'd be down with spending them on a random casket item too.

Did they raise tab cap? I am still capped at 50k tabs.

Err..... I must be remembering wrong then. I just remember thinking "Well, I'll absolutely never run out if I keep spending 50 tabs a day." Perhaps it was 50k.

Bah was hoping they did.

I can't even begin to express how good of an idea I think that is. It fits perfectly in how you get most of the other things in the game: Get insanely lucky or work your arse off.

When I discovered there was actually a second skill up item, my interest jumped in obtaining it. Of course, that interest faded almost instantly knowing how much of a nightmare it was to get the Prouesse Ring. I just could not sit in the same zone for days hoping I would eventually get what I was after a second time.

Noting and agreeing with the high price, players would work at it actually knowing they'll "eventually" get what they're after, if not getting lucky before that, which would, in turn give plenty of activity to F/GoV. Which is what they really want, isn't it?

These area specific items.. They're not hq voidqwatch drops, they're mostly low-level novelties and trinkets that really do not possess enough significance to require a month, weeks, or even days amounts of work to obtain.

Most people would suggest just raising the rate of caskets or the drop rates of the items themselves.
This tab exchange idea would not only erase the need for both of the aforementioned, but would give players what they want without handing it to them on a silver platter.

You only have that many because you've had several years of FoV/GoV in which to gather them, and nothing worthwhile to spend them on. You're basically talking about a situation where you'll buy one item and never be able to avail yourself of the service ever again. I would rather see benefits we could take advantage of without saving tabs over literal years of play.

I want to remind you that you can still only get a tab reward once an hour; tab accumulation is actually substantially slower now than it was before auto-repeat, where you could do two pages back-to-back and get tabs for them both as long as the day changed.

Okay? I've had a Mythic done minus Einherjar for the last 6 months. I know how much of a pain in the *** it is to have to spam a time-limited event.

The thing is, though, that you're exchanging absurd amounts of tabs to get an item that comes from GoV/FoV. While you farm your tabs to buy the item, there's a pretty good chance that you'll get the item. If I could farm Einherjar and have a pretty good chance to randomly get an Eyepatch before I got 100k Amps, I'd be a pretty happy spammer.

That being the case, would you not rather be able to buy keys for 500 tabs that let you open every brown casket you got, even the four-guess ones that are literally impossible without very lucky guessing?

There is, over the 150-or-so continuous hours of farming GoV to get enough tabs to buy an item at proposed prices*, a substantial chance that the item you're seeking will spawn in a brown casket you get, that's true. In my experience, most of the frustration of GoV item farming comes not from the rarity of the item caskets themselves but rather the randomness of whether or not you're actually able to open them.




*and come on, man; nobody is going to do that from 0 tabs for a Smithy Torque. People just want a windfall from the tabs they have "saved" rather than an actual sustainable tab system, and I say this as one of the people with 50k+ tabs saved up.

Why does it have to be instead of? Can't they have the items for sale as well as keys? Though I think 500 is too much. Abyssea keys are 500 Cruor but cruor is stupid easy to get. Tabs are not. 100 would be more reasonable since at 500 a pop you could likely buy the full item depending on the price they name before you'd get a chest with the item. You'd have to get it within 50 chests to save anything if they set the price at 25,000 and then you still have to freaking spend all that time in the zone farming the boxes in the first place.

The 500 number is arbitrary, of course, but brown caskets are much rarer than abyssea chests and much more difficult to open without keys; I think it's appropriate for a GoV key to be more "expensive" than an Abyssea key in light of this but as always YMMV with regard to arbitrary decisions like this.

There would, of course, be nothing wrong with putting in both, but at the very least the 30-50k for an item is WAY too steep; if direct tab > item redemption were put in my biggest concern is that it shouldn't simply be a windfall for players who have the luxury of sitting on 50k of this deathly-slowly-accumulating currency because it was so worthless for so long.

As to your last point about getting the item before you got it from the keys you burned, you're ignoring how valuable all the OTHER ***you get from brown caskets is in high level GoV, even just to vendors, and this is ultimately the biggest point in favor of keys, IMO: keys make tabs valuable even if you don't give a ***about skill-up rings or +2 crafting torques.