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By SimonSes 2019-02-24 02:47:53
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Leviathan.Stamos said: »

If you make another test like this, could you please check:

Relic +3 legs vs Amalric +1 for Crush, Fulgor, Entomb, Searing
especially with Burst Affinity? (more STR, VIT, AGI, macc vs more mab)

Also Jhakri +2 feet for Searing, Fulgor, Anvil? (more STR, DEX, INT vs more mab)

I don't have Amalric +1 legs and feet to check this myself and want to see how much improvement they are over those those pieces.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2019-02-24 16:19:22
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Kaja/Nibiru. No BA. All right next to the mob for full bonus from Orph.

Amalric +1 legs vs Relic +3:

Tenebral Crush 22,600 vs 22,200

Fulgor is closer 14,933 vs 14,907

Entomb 15,373 vs 15,408. Relic wins on this

Searing 14,452 vs 14,525. Relic wins here.

Also, since I didn't do it last night. Kaja/Nibiru beats Nibiru/Nibiru for Searing as well.


Now for feet. This is still keeping set bonus, so amalric +1 legs for each:

Searing 14,452 vs 14,249 vs Jhakri +2

Tenebral 22,600 vs 19,722

Fulgor 14,933 vs 13,426

Entomb 15,373 vs 14,642.


Relic +3 and Jhakri +2:

Entomb 14,754

Tenebral 19,419

Fulgor 14,728

Tempest 14,413




So, it looks like relic legs are interchangeable if you have Amalric feet +1, hands, and body. But, Amalric feet +1 are a big boost over Jhakri +2.
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By SimonSes 2019-02-26 12:36:50
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Thx a lot for that test.

Jhakri still have it's place in magic burst set, tho that 7% MBB might not be enough to cover the loss on Tenebral :O
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By Ruaumoko 2019-03-01 04:56:11
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Hope people can clarify this for me before the video comes out but BG Wiki claims on it's Burst Affinity page that the AF+3 Legs increase the WSC on the spell used with the ability, same as the Empy feet, but the OP of this guide states it's a increase to base damage.

Wording is a bit off perhaps, can someone clarify?
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By Shiva.Xelltrix 2019-03-01 08:10:07
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I just wanted to say I tried out the TP bonus Sword in Dynamis last night and it was nothing short of amazing. Averaged about 93% Acc throughout all three waves and the weaponskill damage was insane so if there are any hold outs out there, work on it. It’s very easy to compensate for the accuracy loss in the first wave while using meat and you only need Torpor (or more acc swaps) and sushi in the second wave to keep it going.



Anyway, just happy that someone posted about it on here and wondering if SE is ever going to nerf it, lol.
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By Asura.Shermansmith 2019-03-03 12:36:00
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Now with the Thibron being a power house side-kick to the Tizona r15, I've been wondering about Sequence/Thibron. With what is known about Requiescat and it's attack penalty, I'm wondering if Sequence+Thibron+Moonshade giving 1750 TP bonus could be a game changer for the WS. Here are questions I'm asking myself:

What if I eliminate the attack power penalty?
If so, would I stack MND/WSD/strike attacks or add more atkpwr?

What are your thoughts?
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By SimonSes 2019-03-03 12:50:57
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Asura.Shermansmith said: »
Now with the Thibron being a power house side-kick to the Tizona r15, I've been wondering about Sequence/Thibron. With what is known about Requiescat and it's attack penalty, I'm wondering if Sequence+Thibron+Moonshade giving 1750 TP bonus could be a game changer for the WS. Here are questions I'm asking myself:

What if I eliminate the attack power penalty?
If so, would I stack MND/WSD/strike attacks or add more atkpwr?

What are your thoughts?

Attack penalty is only one thing holding Requiescat back.
Look at Resolution. It has 15% attack penalty and is one of the strongest WS. The problem with Requiescat is it's modifier and low fTP per hit. MND is pretty terrible as modifier for WS and 1.2 fTP (with Fotia neck/belt) per hit is pretty bad too.

I think Requiescat was implemented like that, because it was suppose to be situational WS when you need non-elemental magic damage.
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By Ricon 2019-03-07 22:11:56
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Asura.Shermansmith said: »
Now with the Thibron being a power house side-kick to the Tizona r15, I've been wondering about Sequence/Thibron. With what is known about Requiescat and it's attack penalty, I'm wondering if Sequence+Thibron+Moonshade giving 1750 TP bonus could be a game changer for the WS. Here are questions I'm asking myself:

What if I eliminate the attack power penalty?
If so, would I stack MND/WSD/strike attacks or add more atkpwr?

What are your thoughts?
Don't use Req, use savage blade. Currently the second best combo for blu is Seq/Thib using savage blade.
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By Asura.Gordel 2019-03-07 23:07:00
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When would I use Thibron with tizona r15? Is it viable on w3? Or is for literally everything else?

Does anyone have a gearset up for content I can take a peak at?

Which paths would I want to go on Adhemar if using thib?
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By SimonSes 2019-03-08 04:53:41
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Asura.Gordel said: »
When would I use Thibron with tizona r15? Is it viable on w3? Or is for literally everything else?

Does anyone have a gearset up for content I can take a peak at?

Which paths would I want to go on Adhemar if using thib?

It's viable on boss, not really on fomors. I mean with low/floored accuracy on Thibron you will still maintain quite good DPS, because of AM3 working on Tizona. It's possible that even then, that might still be your best available set.

TP is your normal TP set, unless you need more accuracy, then

ammo="Falcon Eye",
head=gear.herculean_tp_accta_head, -> Accuracy and 4%TA Herculean
body=gear.Adhemar_A_body,
hands=gear.Adhemar_A_hands,
legs=gear.Adhemar_A_legs,
feet=gear.herculean_ta_feet, -> Accuracy and 4%TA Herculean
neck="Mirage Stole +2",
waist="Windbuffet Belt +1",
left_ear="Suppanomimi",
right_ear="Telos Earring",
left_ring="Chirich Ring +1",
right_ring="Chirich Ring +1",
back=gear.BLU_TP_Cape

You can also change belt to Reiki and Suppa to Dignitary or Mache +1, for even more accuracy (you will have 2%DW too much, but we can live with it).

You dont need to go all the way in to full accuracy too. You can have some mid acc set with for example Ginsen and Ahdemar A head or Dampening Tam.
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By Sabishii 2019-03-11 12:56:28
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Question, looking at the new club's final stage, what would be better for nuking. Should I stick with 2x nibiru cudgels, or go for a Maxentius/Nibiru cudgel combo?

The Maxentius has less MAB, but way more 1) MACC, 2) magic damage 3) and a bit more MND/INT (with 15 CHR to boot for any decent nuking spells that happen to have that modifier, are there any? I know lolEyes on Me has it, but that one isn't relevant). Thoughts? Ideas? I know it's great melee club with black halo and ACC.
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By Afania 2019-03-11 13:12:38
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Asura.Gordel said: »
When would I use Thibron with tizona r15? Is it viable on w3? Or is for literally everything else?

Does anyone have a gearset up for content I can take a peak at?

Which paths would I want to go on Adhemar if using thib?

It will also depend on the buffs you get. Just do a check param for offhand and adjust from there. (Always do check param before engage anything, then change sets/food based on check param....its a good habit to have for real)
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2019-03-11 13:25:10
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Sabishii said: »
Question, looking at the new club's final stage, what would be better for nuking. Should I stick with 2x nibiru cudgels, or go for a Maxentius/Nibiru cudgel combo?

The Maxentius has less MAB, but way more 1) MACC, 2) magic damage 3) and a bit more MND/INT (with 15 CHR to boot for any decent nuking spells that happen to have that modifier, are there any? I know lolEyes on Me has it, but that one isn't relevant). Thoughts? Ideas? I know it's great melee club with black halo and ACC.

Did the test above and last page with Kaja.
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By geigei 2019-03-12 08:48:17
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Quick update on new club, subduction, same target, same gear, same spellsset:

-Nibiru/Nibiru=2942dmg
-Maxentius/Nibiru=3048dmg

3.6% increase.
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By SimonSes 2019-03-12 09:38:51
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Test the Magic Burst Bonus! Do it!
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By geigei 2019-03-12 10:39:09
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Searing on apex bat, geo languor, indi focus, pear crepe to avoid resists, i made sure burn wear off for second cast.

Bat #1.
2step liquefaction = 50722dmg
3step liquefaction = 53957dmg

Bat #2.

2step liquefaction = 50511dmg
3step liquefaction = 53678dmg

On both target 6.3% more dmg.
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By SimonSes 2019-03-12 10:43:37
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Thank You!
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By geigei 2019-03-12 10:54:55
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Halo is pretty sick too, 16k the lowest one up to 30k+ depending on tp, frailty/fury/chaos/dia2 using savage set.
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By Boshi 2019-03-12 11:38:19
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geigei said: »
Halo is pretty sick too, 16k the lowest one up to 30k+ depending on tp, frailty/fury/chaos/dia2 using savage set.

Halo 5 was kinda dissapointing.
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By Asura.Arnan 2019-03-12 12:56:12
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geigei said: »
Halo is pretty sick too, 16k the lowest one up to 30k+ depending on tp, frailty/fury/chaos/dia2 using savage set.

With TP bonus sword in offhand I was getting up to 50k on apex mobs. pretty comparable to tizona/thib and black halo > true strike > black halo > black halo is pretty fun but true strike kinda sucks
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-03-13 08:13:22
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Physical BLU stun spells have two checks: a physical accuracy check for the spell to hit the target and a magic accuracy check for the stun part.

So far so good.
We know that blue magic skill converts into magic accuracy at a certain rate for magical spells.

I wonder: would that happen for the stun part as well for physical spells? Has it ever been tested?
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By SimonSes 2019-03-13 08:23:19
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Asura.Arnan said: »
geigei said: »
Halo is pretty sick too, 16k the lowest one up to 30k+ depending on tp, frailty/fury/chaos/dia2 using savage set.

With TP bonus sword in offhand I was getting up to 50k on apex mobs. pretty comparable to tizona/thib and black halo > true strike > black halo > black halo is pretty fun but true strike kinda sucks

What Apex tho? On avg Black halo should be slightly below Expiacion and ofc Tizona has higher WS frequency.
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By Zyla 2019-03-14 01:41:55
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So I was lookin at the WS sets on the front page and was wondering if the regal ring has a place in any of them as I didn't see it in any of the sets listed. I would think that it beats some of those options, or am I wrong?
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-03-14 01:45:35
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BLU can't use Regal Ring.
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By Zyla 2019-03-14 02:42:29
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lol ok, I'm just retarded or illiterate then XD
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By Asura.Byrne 2019-03-14 03:09:00
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Boshi said: »
geigei said: »
Halo is pretty sick too, 16k the lowest one up to 30k+ depending on tp, frailty/fury/chaos/dia2 using savage set.

Halo 5 was kinda dissapointing.

Yes. There's actually a fairly amusing video series about it by The Act Man on youtube. (Also MCC coming to PC, that's kinda neat)

Finally, while Black Halo won't outdamage sword options in general, it's great to have a lengthy discussion bout it so people remember it's a thing... It's really good for blunt weak monsters, obviously... I know many of you already know this, but you know, sometimes it's better to think of the kind of person that only tunes into these guides every now and again, and doesn't read every single comment, after all that's 80+% of your pick-up BLU's anyway.
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By SimonSes 2019-03-14 06:42:12
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In theory Maxentius and Naegling should be about the same.
At 2500TP (which is where you will usually end up with slight overflow and moonshade + thibrion):

Savage with Naegling fTP - (12 * 1.58 + 2) * 1.15 = 24.104
Black Halo with Maxentius fTP - (8.5 * 1.58 + 2) * 1.5 = 23.145

Now 50%STR/50%MND on Savage is better than 70%MND/30%STR, but Maxentius has 200 base damage, while Naegling only 166.

In ideal set SB would have 282 WSC so total base would be 448
In ideal set Halo would have 280 WSC so total base would be 480

vs 230VIT target SB set would have +25 from fSTR
vs 230VIT target Halo set would have +11 from fSTR

SB: 473 * 24.104 * 3.35 = 38193
Halo: 491 * 23.145 * 3.35 = 38070

Getting multi-attack proc favors Halo, so you might see a little higher spikes with it.

Keep in mind for optimal Halo set I used MND on cape and herculean, but the gain over STR cape and herculean is VERY minimal, because you lose fSTR and if you are not attack capped it's not even a gain, so in theory I wouldn't chase this additional MND pieces for Halo and would settle with STR pieces that works great for Savage and Expiacion too.

EDIT: Oh I kinda forgot that sub hand hit's might have floored accuracy on higher lvl enemies and that will favor Savage Blade slightly

Without sub hand hit its:
SB - 36371
Halo - 35602
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By geigei 2019-03-14 06:44:00
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Do you have an optimal set for halo? trying to build one, ty.
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By SimonSes 2019-03-14 07:01:22
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geigei said: »
Do you have an optimal set for halo? trying to build one, ty.

ammo="Mantoptera Eye",
head=Herculean 5%WSD/MND or STR/acc/att, --5
body="Assim. Jubbah +3", --10
hands="Jhakri Cuffs +2", --7
legs="Luhlaza Shalwar +3", --10
feet=Herculean 5%WSD/MND or STR/acc/att, --5
neck="Mirage Stole +2",
waist="Grunfeld Rope",
left_ear="Ishvara Earring", --2
right_ear="Moonshade Earring"
left_ring="Karieyh Ring +1",
right_ring="Epaminondas's Ring", --5
back= 30MND/10%WSD/20acc/20att --10

alternatives:
left_ring="Rufescent Ring",
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By sefalon 2019-03-14 11:55:11
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I just got ambuscade sword fully upgraded last night. Is Savage Blade the best ws to use since it gives the bonus? And is the ws set in the OG post still best?
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