Siren.Fattynoob said: »
It isn't a popularity contest. It's claiming that math is useless in a game of numbers.
Empy V. Relic Dilemma
Empy v. Relic Dilemma
I have people that claim ***like 5 hit sam is worse than 6 hit sam. Those sir are MATH guestimations. Like how sam can 5 hit and self sc w.o meditate. Vs sam with 6 hit cannot, that ***isn't factored into your little math numbers. Math can lie very easily in ffxi. I can name many situations like that that you cannot work out on math in ffxi.
Except you can work that out in math.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Except you can work that out in math.
You add the extra skillchain damage, duh? you'd have to be the only DD for that to work, which is why nobody does it, because I'm not going to stop WSing so you can make pretty lights.
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
You add the extra skillchain damage, duh? you'd have to be the only DD for that to work, which is why nobody does it, because I'm not going to stop WSing so you can make pretty lights.
So you disapprove of math because of one idiot? So what do you use to make your gear choices since it's not a parser and it's not math?
Ramuh.Austar said: »
So you disapprove of math because of one idiot? So what do you use to make your gear choices since it's not a parser and it's not math?
Well you shouldn't claim the math is wrong then, since all of use numbers for all our gear choices.
Math's only weakness is the one using it. If all variables are accounted for properly, math is perfect and set in stone. If any variables are unaccounted for, math goes out the window to a degree. We try and reduce all the variables possible, and consider the ones that we're unable to remove from the equation, but even then there are faults. For this reason there is fluctuation in outcomes, and things don't present themselves in the way originally outlined, but it's still a solid means of preparation. Acknowledging that will help you understand how things work and why, and better understand where people are coming from.
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
You add the extra skillchain damage, duh? you'd have to be the only DD for that to work, which is why nobody does it, because I'm not going to stop WSing so you can make pretty lights.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Well you shouldn't claim the math is wrong then, since all of use numbers for all our gear choices.
Holding TP is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
I believe there may be a helpful soul on here from time to time, the only problem is, the few who have no idea what they are talking about have nothing factual to say and just tell someone they are "Doing it wrong" instead of having some sort of helpful information for the OP.
I wish good players would use the forums more often but the what I like to call "Abyssea born" or "Stubborn Returning players" make their living on here ridiculing those with honest questions. These people expose themselves for your help not for your ignorance. I agree there or some people who are actually helpful, but the other 90% who post pictures to express themselves, I would not take advice from, because they probably cannot read, for example the picture usage.
I would hope there would be some better admin around here correcting people posting such *** and going off topic. I am guilty of this at the moment, but I don't see myself making my own forum post to be flamed by such asshats I speak of. For those that agree thank you for those that do not. Post your silly pictures below.
I wish good players would use the forums more often but the what I like to call "Abyssea born" or "Stubborn Returning players" make their living on here ridiculing those with honest questions. These people expose themselves for your help not for your ignorance. I agree there or some people who are actually helpful, but the other 90% who post pictures to express themselves, I would not take advice from, because they probably cannot read, for example the picture usage.
I would hope there would be some better admin around here correcting people posting such *** and going off topic. I am guilty of this at the moment, but I don't see myself making my own forum post to be flamed by such asshats I speak of. For those that agree thank you for those that do not. Post your silly pictures below.
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Holding TP is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Mods don't care what we say as long as it's not breaking a rule, no matter how correct or not it is.
Transam said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
You add the extra skillchain damage, duh? you'd have to be the only DD for that to work, which is why nobody does it, because I'm not going to stop WSing so you can make pretty lights.
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Math's only weakness is the one using it. If all variables are accounted for properly, math is perfect and set in stone. If any variables are unaccounted for, math goes out the window to a degree. We try and reduce all the variables possible, and consider the ones that we're unable to remove from the equation, but even then there are faults. For this reason there is fluctuation in outcomes, and things don't present themselves in the way originally outlined, but it's still a solid means of preparation. Acknowledging that will help you understand how things work and why, and better understand where people are coming from.
Well said.
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said: »
Can we just close this thread?
Pretty much.
Most Empyreans are going to be pretty lackluster at 90, and beaten by either their weapon's OAT or STR Magian option. Most Empyreans at 99 can overtake their relic counterpart if aftermath maintainence is feasible and accuracy isn't a concern, but generally speaking, a relic weapon is the safer decision. If you have a preferred job, create a relic for it, and pump out a bunch of 90 Empyreans/99 STR/99 OAT for the others. It's really that simple.
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Well I totally just discovered I can solo my own Masamune (maybe not to 90 but certainly to 85 hehe) so that's exciting. I also am feeling better about the choice to continue building my Spharai and have started working on the Verethragna trials, too. Ahh the joys of camping nms. /gag
Quetzalcoatl.Mnkk said: »
Bahamut.Atoreis said: »
Quote above is an example of those moments when you want to get back the time you spent reading it.
Edit: ^ Never use curing waltz because of the insane counter rate. I laugh when i see 3 d/c mobs running at me. If i had vere i would have to pray i survive and get lucky on counter procs, were as having Spharai you dont have to "hope" you can rely on it.
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Phoenix.Fuujin said: »
Well I totally just discovered I can solo my own Masamune (maybe not to 90 but certainly to 85 hehe) so that's exciting. I also am feeling better about the choice to continue building my Spharai and have started working on the Verethragna trials, too. Ahh the joys of camping nms. /gag
Cool but TP bonus GKT says hi.
I've always played the jobs I enjoyed, regardless of what flavor of the month for x DD it was. People enjoy various types of play styles, most of the frustration/disappointment you're expressing towards people who bandwagon is most likely due to some degree of jealousy or hating on something that is popular. It isn't an uncommon feeling at all and is everywhere, such as people disliking popular music or trends simply because a lot of people like it.
Fact is, nobody is a unique snowflake on this game so if they want to enjoy playing the strongest DD then it really shouldn't bother you. I'm sure there are many other people out there, just like you, who play a job simply because they enjoy it and not because its the bestest.
Kinda like your posts in this thread?
Fact is, nobody is a unique snowflake on this game so if they want to enjoy playing the strongest DD then it really shouldn't bother you. I'm sure there are many other people out there, just like you, who play a job simply because they enjoy it and not because its the bestest.
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The rest just sound like idiots for the most part.
Kinda like your posts in this thread?
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Draylo up in hur layin' down the law.
Hot.
Hot.
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True lol. Now everyone hates bst, look at what they can do only, dyna -.- and they still get hated on haha.
Fupafighters said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
So you disapprove of math because of one idiot? So what do you use to make your gear choices since it's not a parser and it's not math?
I'm a bit sad DRG got "OATed" so quickly by the OP but, not a main job for her so makes sense I suppose.
I'm not super disappointed with my rhongomiant90, especially where I can maintain aftermath lvl 3. But I wouldn't consider putting it to 99 in the grand scheme of things. Instead it's a good place holder while I work on the ryunohige :D ... >.<
PS - iPhone tried to auto-correct "rhongomiant" into "thongy onion". This post was worth it for that alone.
I'm not super disappointed with my rhongomiant90, especially where I can maintain aftermath lvl 3. But I wouldn't consider putting it to 99 in the grand scheme of things. Instead it's a good place holder while I work on the ryunohige :D ... >.<
PS - iPhone tried to auto-correct "rhongomiant" into "thongy onion". This post was worth it for that alone.
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Shoulda kept thongy onion, it's an upgrade.
There's very little reason to make a Rhongomiant 99. There's absolutely no reason to make a Rhongomiant 90.
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