[Dev] Increasing The AH 7 Item Listing Cap

This pretty much... Since I'm pretty much always only selling a bunch of stacks of the same item, it's pretty rare that I can put up 7 items and have them all sell.. Mostly it's Red Curry Buns atm, and price jumps too much for me to put 7 stacks up and have them all sell (I do anyways, just in case, but it's yet to happen, and I'm nearly 99 cooking and have been making Red Curry since 95.. That's probably a good 30-50 stacks of buns I've sold). Generally, the price gets undercut by a couple K by the time I've sold 2 stacks. It's just more sensible to put up a few, wait for them to sell, then put up a few more with the new undercut price.

Yesterday I found out that you no longer can buy PS2 versions of the game, or if you go to the main FFXI page it just says that the game platforms are Xbox 360 and PC.


Really sick of this excuse.

how much different can a Ps3 be from an xbox 360.. I mean If i can load and run windows 7 on my Ps3 why cant we take a computer game and put it on a system that can emulate a computer system? Isn't that how the Ps3 play FFXi anyway, through a Ps2 emulator? Even if it's a matter of recoding, correct me if i'm wrong I might be misinformed but didn't they "recode" FF14 when it flopped on it release by taking a majority of FFXI's team and moving them over? To me it just sounds like pure Lazyness. They can do, they don;t want to in my eyes. the investment of time and man power Vs a game that can be potentially made into so much by breaking limitations. I mean.. i'm half-assing this argument with no real back up or proof just saying based on what i've hear/read over the years. who know I could have been trolled into thinking this.

it always amazes me how a game developed for the PS2 would run more efficiently without PS2 support...

Is this why Voiddust is currently at 255? Counting 0 as one of them, I guess I never really thought about it before.

yes, thats how PS3 can play FFXI. however, Sony stopped producing PS3 with the emulators a long time ago. The last one that was backwards compatible was the MGS4 bundle. Also, Sony removed/blocked the PS3 natural ability to install other OS software, like Linux.

could they recode, yes. will they, no. the PS3, which is still a good system, is almost six years old, and sony is already in full development of the PS4. plus, looking at the current gaming market, how many new subscribers would they acquire by making the PS3 port? probably not enough to warrant the cost of the ports development. and not to many current PC players would get the port either, since the PC version can be enhanced by windower.

last i heard, they are still looking at a portable port on the PSVita, but im not to sure how far that will go


edit: i will say this though. SE needs to do a heavy cost/benefit analysis on the PS2 version. they already stopped producing the discs a while ago, so no new subscribers are coming in. all they would need to do is check to see how often the PS2 updates are being downloaded vs PC. if you have to piss off 1-2% of your existing player base to be able to greatly enhance the game for the remaining players, possibly even increase the PC base, then its worth it.

The PS3 is so difficult to code for that I completely doubt anyone on the FFXI development team is capable of it.

That doesn't stop them from making PC only HD status graphics that can be used in macro's only on the PC XD when windower/dat mods could change graphics years ago XD

spaghetti code, anyone?

They're two completely different systems made by different companies. The Playstation 3 uses backwards compatibility to play FFXI. Older PS3's use hardware emulation while the ones before they discontinued backwards compatibility use software emulation.

Its not just re coding, they would have to build the game for PS3 from scratch because the architecture of the console works differently from the PS2.. In other words, it communicates differently.

I might be explaining it badly but a good example to use is emulators. Most people assume PC's are powerful enough to run console games, they're correct, but what an emulator actually does is it replicates the console's hardware as well as software and it has to translate all this code just for it to run on your PC.

It's also not cost effective for Square-Enix to re build a 10 year old game for PS3. It would be easier to re release it within its own emulator like many of the retro games on XBLA/PSN but even then it wouldn't be perfect and as I've already pointed out, it's not worth the time nor cash to even attempt it.

The reason for that is quite simple:

SONY is about to retire the production plants for PlayStation 2 disc duplication, which might be why SE decided that they will go down with the path of download only expansions. /huh

Let's face it... PS2 is doomed as bad as it was on day 1 of FFXI. It's just that Square never expected that it would be still alive and kicking in 2012.

SONY want to move on, though.

Seems everyone but a few diehard PS2 players want PS2 gone, SE doesn't like adapting however.

From what I've seen over the years, the only people who care about PS2 are A. Those who for whatever reason 'can't afford' an actual computer to play on or B. Those who refuse to use windower to Dual Box with and 'can't afford' a second computer to dual box with.

Basically any piece of ***computer can play FFXI, so I say down with PS2 as well.. I mean really, you could ask for a working computer on Craigslist that someone doesn't want and almost be guaranteed that it would play FFXI just fine.

This is why PS2/PS3 peeps don't wanna move to xbox

And PC is hacked land so...
Besides didn't they show already PS2 still has a lot of free space? they recently made the partition bigger no?

Hard drive space is far from the only issue facing consoles (and in extension PC).

Yeah, they are probably sending an 8-bit number (0 to 255) for each of the items in the category when you open it.

I doubt SE employs efficient coding mechanisms, so an 8-bit number probably always takes 8 bits of space regardless of its value. As such, it doesn't "cost" them any more to send 1 than 0, or 25 rather than 18.

They could code it more efficiently, and it really wouldn't be that hard, but I seriously doubt they do. These are the people that took years to make storage slips. I don't think they have bitwise operations in them.

Re-release FFXI as FFXI-2 for the PS4, 720 and PC. Keep the old game only with higher enhancement capabilities. Make everyone buy the game along with new expansions all over again!

Edit: They did it with FFXIV so why not with FFXI?

PC is hack land much like sex is STD land if you don't properly protect yourself.

FFXIV is turning into FFXI-2 patch after patch lol

the ps3 and 360 are very different...
in terms of ffxi even more so

you can't put windows 7 on your ps3, nor do all ps3's play ps2 games. (thanks Sony) (my ps3 played ps2 games through the ps2's hardware that is built in on it, but it died on me again).

recoding XI would take a severe amount of work, but since they are making an HD release of X there may be hope, but the cost/revenue ratio isn't there.

you were pretty much trolled.




as stated dozens of times already, ps2 support or not, that isn't the problem with ffxi.


see Japan, and the fact that it wouldn't really make a difference.


why do you care what somebody else plays on? and personally I detest multiboxing on the same unit, but as my laptop is easily portable I put up with it.


ftfy

they had a chance to revamp XI, they should have made XIV as XI-2, but they didn't and have since failed, enjoy the game, take what you get, be happy. Unless you own enough stock in SE to move the board to pursue changes there's nothing you can do, but if you can, fire Tanaka.

and even more so than condoms there's no 100%

I didn't say I cared, I dunno how much truth there is to 'ps2 limitations'..

I just don't buy this whole 'I can't afford a PC to play FFXI on' ***.. Those are literally the only two groups I've ever seen defend or care about PS2 support.

I stand to gain nothing by PS2 being continued, but I do stand to gain something from it being canceled. PS2 limitations true or not, I gain nothing by keeping PS2 around, however, if the limitations are true, then I stand to actually gain something from PS2 being dropped (it's not as if this is the only issue PS2 is being blamed for 'holding us back').

So I say drop it.. Can't afford a computer but can afford internet, or to eat or w/e.. Like I said, you could easily get a computer capable of playing FFXI just by posting an ad on Craigslist, for free.. Game doesn't require much, doesn't even require a Dual Core.. I have 2, years-old dual cores sitting up in the attic, and pieces to a third (just basically missing RAM and a PSU).

some people really can't, and some people don't pay extra for internet.

as far as the limitations go, the limitations are between the partition size (which like I said earlier is no longer due to the ps2 itself, as the partition size has exceeded 2 other particular units already) and coding, the ONLY thing that would help FFXI is recoding a lot of it, which would benefit everyone. If they were to do such a thing (which by all signs they aren't) then and only then they should drop the support if it enables them to improve upon the game. As far as the end user .dat files, there's no reason that they don't release a better version for pc users who want them short of that they don't want to or don't want to take the time to, or don't want PC users to have an advantage, which would also mean over 360.

They need to worry more about Tanaka limitations.

you have to remember that the game was coded for the PS2, the engine itself is limited, without a recode there can't be much done.

sorry, forgot my sarcasm font :|

'it always amazes me how a game developed for the PS2 would run more efficiently without PS2 support...'

its funny how "lawl PS2" is the main issue whenever you cant get 5 more spaces and 1 more AH slot every update.

I mean..whats next...gunna complain about tablet limitations when they eventually get to adding support for those?

that brings up an interesting question, will SE release a pol for windows 8 arm?

Guess we'll see after the OS is out.

Problem is, even if PS2 support was killed off, they can't just add new ***. They'd have to stop supporting PS2 and reoptimize their code.

Honestly, the problem is that they coded for the PS2. If they coded for the PC, ***would be muuuuuuuuuuch different.

this might be the point that they fully seperate from PoL?
real question is: where will windower be if they stop using PoLV?

yes,this^ if they only coded differently for PS2,PC,and 360.

Yea that's nice, like they ever update playonline's website design. They still haven't added ToAU areas to locations or anything.

http://www.finalfantasyxi.com/

They update that site 10 times more often, no PS2 logo and they won't even mention it.

looks pretty updated to me as it has all the add-ons...

you haven't been able to get the ps2 version of the game in years, they really don't expect new players to start on it, but as I understand it a large portion of their JP playerbase plays on it.

I don't see SE alienating loyal long time fans to satisfy the crying babies that *** who really know nothing of coding.