Just Nerf Bst Already

The true issue here I think is not so much the job as the people controlling them. Like last night for example bst had 4 on his dipper so he runs over and grabs a 5th on main toon, weaponskills it snarl procs 1 or 2 and runs to grab another. This is the type of person I cant stand. Will I snipe him? You bet your *** if there is none up. Again its people gotta be considerate granted I dont sell my currency as i am building relic but come on do you really need 8 mobs at once no matter what jobs ya have. We have the thf with mage issue too sleeping everything as well.

From my standpoint, this whole "bst should be nerfed" BS is going to just go back and forth constantly. It goes for ANY content at that too. You will always have someone or several people in either Dyna, Sky, Sea, Abyssea, or whatever it may be who are going to fight over claims. Some less than others these days, but it's going to be an endless debate until this game dies off, or someone manages to pull off a private server.

Also, it's already been said - it's not the job that's the problem, it's the people behind them. Until you see people stop being douchebags over claims or whatever it may be, things may never change. Social games are FULL of players like that everywhere.

there's no reason to steal mobs

is Sarameya harder than the regular cerberus on mount zyl?

Haven't read most of this thread, but I gotta say I find LS's that feel it's necessary to bring 10+ people to already full dreamland camps only to make everyone, including themselves, just stand around and wait for repops more annoying than a bst that slowly kills 2 mobs by them self.

Even then though, in dyna I say say forget being nice, if I see a bst holding two mobs and one is proc'd and low enough to kill with ws, I'll engage and kill it when it blinks white.

You could call me a douche bag for doing so, but on the other hand, you're a douche bag for trying to hold more mobs than you can handle just so others can't get 'em

no, only you are

in fact that makes you a mega one...

Good argument.

Hence my point - where there's competition, there's going to be fights over who wants what mob, what camp, what NM, whatever it may be. Endless debate till the end of time.

Im a huge douche then cause if you holding more than 2 mobs and none are up...im comin for ya son

we do 9-10 man groups but we split zones and end up with 1500-2000 coins a night <.<

As far as BSTs.
If u get a link fine. If you purposely pull every mob and try holding them. *** you. Im taking it. Dont waste my time.

I only justify "stealing" a mob when it is

a. Full health
b. not proced
c. the person has 4+ mobs on them

Everyone's a douche at some point or another. There's no denying it, I'll admit to it as well just because you take from me, I'll take from you.

Here, have some long and boring almost-related stories.

I need fistule discharges like they are going out of style. I need them all! So I went prancing out to aby-konch and checked on Fistule. And there was a bst there killing. And I asked him how long he planned to stay so I could come back later, and he said "wanna team up? I don't want the discharges." So we teamed up. I farmed eft bloods while he held Bloodguzzler until Fistule popped, then I came and fought Fistule while his pet kept the baby fistules off me. It was swell.

Last night we went into dyna-jeuno. We were the only folks there for a few minutes, then a solo bst came in. He never bothered us, not once, never tried to take our slept goblins if they linked, not once. The worst he did was follow us to time extensions and wait for us to clear the area so the TEs were pullable, and then grab the TEs-- but he waited until we killed the TE first, every single time. Very courteous.

Later a thf and rdm duo came in. When we were trying to pull NMs for kicks and giggles, they pulled a ginormous herd of gobs right next to us so we couldn't sleepga our links. Then the thf, who had pulled them all, used hide. >.> Didn't mpk us, I'm not even sure if he was trying to mpk us, but it's mildly suspicious when you run right up to someone else with a horde of mobs and then use hide.

Anyhow! Moral of the story(s), every job has sweethearts and every job has douchebags.

1. free currency.
2. Uh, is a 2nd reason really required?

It's not stealing if a mob is white.

I'm consistent about that, too. Several times my friend and I have died to something, someone else took it, friend complained about stealing, and I'll say "no, mob was white, we wiped, fair game."

Anyway, if you're surrounded by white mobs, there's nothing around to kill, you should basically EXPECT that people are going to take some of those mobs.

Unless of course, it seems like you'll die.

@Latifah
If we compare both NMs when they were a challenge, Sarameya was far harder, requiring heavy zerg force, as opposed to Cerberus who can be 6manned by skilled players.

Sarameya's damage qualities isn't what makes BST unable to solo her, it's her defensive qualities. Everytime she gains the effect of blaze spikes (via casting, or magma haplon) she gains a 1% HP/tick regen. Naturally this must be dispelled immediently.

BST/SCH maybe able to solo her.. I wouldn't risk it though, she also gradually builds resistance to dispel, and if you get resists, quickens her pace to complete immunity.

BST/BRD. Finale. Make use of that CHR gear!

that's acceptable, full health is fine, it's the one's you're working over and then people go /pow and you're like >.<

(used to fight several mobs at once when dual boxing to chain xp, was annoying as hell).

ok then go rob your local store's register, free currency

She's actually highly resistant to BRD dispel as soon as pop, or perhaps immune, idr which

Cause those two instances are totally the same.

I'll stop when I don't get 4 bronzepieces from kill-shotting one of 4 hippos a BST is holding.

what's the difference?

really?

nope, i'd rather just keep robbing bsts, so I will.

Sarameya could be 6manned at 75 as well, there's a post on Kanican.livejournal.com detailing how he did it

Okay, but Kanican isn't human.

There's a difference between "can be taken down by 6 members of the green berets" and "can be taken down by 6 people." >_>;

howeveri did Sarameya spam on cap 95 with 2 pts a while ago and killed it really quick, i could not notice the regen, but maybe the pet dmg + user dmg could pierce the regen tics, just like tiamat and kirin, because all lvl 75 content have low hp vs lvl 99 dmg, need testing tho

same principle big difference lol... people will continue to do things that have no real consequence whether it is morally ambigous or not. When you add in a consequence people then start to weigh the worth of the action against the possible outcome. It's a game with no real consequences on either side. I mean so you lose a couple peices of currency, no big deal, and there isn't any punishment so theres really not much to consider. In robbing a store not only does that establishment lose out on something tangible the perpatrator risks his freedom and reputation.