Yellow !! Does Not Improve +2 Drop On Briareus ?
Yellow !! does not improve +2 drop on Briareus ?
I would stop spreading misinformation if I was wrong.
yellow proc increases +2 item drop rate...but if it's helms you're after, better bring a thf
Here's the correct information, because obviously people don't read more than one post of a thread.
Also, "If I was wrong" is not proper English. If I were wrong is the proper way to phrase it.
Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Visions Prespawned NMs
Visions Force Spawned NMs
Scars Prespawned NMs :: NMs that do not drop Scars items will follow the "Prespawned NM" pattern
Scars Force Spawned NMs :: NMs that do not drop Scars items will follow the "Prespawned NM" pattern
Now can we all stop saying things that aren't true (This was incorrect for about a minute, I copy and pasted myself incorrectly and had some delusion that Wieldance was Scars).
Scars +2 Item #1 - Affected by TH, Not affected by Yellow
Scars +2 Item #2 - Affected by TH, Not affected by Yellow
Visions Force Spawned NMs
Scars +2 Item #1 - Affected by TH, Not affected by Yellow
Scars +2 Item #2 - Will not drop without yellow, guaranteed with
Scars Prespawned NMs :: NMs that do not drop Scars items will follow the "Prespawned NM" pattern
Heroes +2 Item #1 - Affected by TH, Not affected by Yellow
Heroes +2 Item #2 - Affected by TH, Not affected by Yellow
Scars Force Spawned NMs :: NMs that do not drop Scars items will follow the "Prespawned NM" pattern
Scars +2 Item #1 - Affected by TH, Not affected by Yellow
Scars +2 Item #2 - Will always drop
Scars +2 Item #3 - Will not drop without yellow, guaranteed with
Scars +2 Item #4 - Will not drop without yellow, affected by TH
Heroes +2 Item #1 - Affected by TH, Not affected by Yellow
Heroes +2 Item #2 - Will not drop without yellow, guaranteed with
Now can we all stop saying things that aren't true (This was incorrect for about a minute, I copy and pasted myself incorrectly and had some delusion that Wieldance was Scars).
Also, "If I was wrong" is not proper English. If I were wrong is the proper way to phrase it.
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lilcratis said: »
yellow proc increases +2 item drop rate...but if it's helms you're after, better bring a thf
Please refer to the post above.
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Also, "If I was wrong" is not proper English. If I were wrong is the proper way to phrase it.
Who are you? The grammar police?
Why are you still looking to see if I'm still going?
its entertaining to watch person after person shut u down. so i feel entitled to ask.. why are you still going..
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Why would were be used instead of was in that sentence?
People have this horrible tendency to not give up when they're wrong, because the prospect of changing one's mind and remaining "correct" is far less desirable than being correct and not being treated like an unknowledgeable and stubborn ignoramus.
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Gimp said: »
Why would were be used instead of was in that sentence?
Because it's subjunctive.
*blinks*
Gimp said: »
Why would were be used instead of was in that sentence?
"If I were X, then I would Y" implies that the proposition in X is not true, but the truth of X would cause something else to happen (Y).
"If I were 18, then I would register to vote."
"If I was" is used in constructs like
"If I was offensive, it was because of lack of education and not out of malicious bigotry."
"If I was unclear, then I apologize."
In this case the proposition X in "If I was X" is not clearly true or untrue.
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Gimp said: »
Why would were be used instead of was in that sentence?
Because it's subjunctive.
Were is subjunctive?
"If I were wrong."
I don't see a mood in the sentence to justify a subjunctive verb, or is it based on assumption(not a mood).
It just sounds closer to conditional tone the sentence than anything else, but I'm not sure if the English language acknowledges conditional like it exists in Spanish.
I'm not asking because I know, but because I don't know.
edit: reading sylow's post
ANYWAY.
Visions popped NMs have 1 +2 drop that is based purely on TH, and 1 +2 drop that requires you to
In order for it to drop.
Visions popped NMs have 1 +2 drop that is based purely on TH, and 1 +2 drop that requires you to
Square-Enix said:
Trigger amber weakness!
In order for it to drop.
Gimp said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Gimp said: »
Why would were be used instead of was in that sentence?
Because it's subjunctive.
Were is subjunctive?
"If I were wrong."
I don't see a mood in the sentence to justify a subjunctive verb, or is it based on assumption(not a mood).
It just sounds closer to conditional tone the sentence than anything else, but I'm not sure if the English language acknowledges conditional like it exists in Spanish.
I'm not asking because I know, but because I don't know.
edit: reading sylow's post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_subjunctive#To_express_a_counterfactual_hypothesis
The English subjunctive is not 100% equivalent to the subjunctive manifestations in the Romance languages. :)
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yea stop with the english lesson. either contribute or get out
In this case though, Baconchips' counterfactual hypothesis is actually factual, and it's actually the apodosis (then Y) that's untrue.
Aly Saxena said: »
yea stop with the english lesson. either contribute or get out
Sorry, but proper English or not, Baconchips was still spreading misinformation!
then ignore him and provide the correct info. ppl will listen to what is accurate if you provide it for them.
My goodness Sylow, I think I love you. Marry me?
Josiahkf said: »
Phoenix.Gaiarorshack said: »
So today my LS leader informed me that triggering yellow !! did not help on +2 drops that the nm only drop 1 off
Like with Briareus the +2's should only be affected by treasure hunter
apparently the information steams from a BST soloing Briareus for his +2 items.
Like with Briareus the +2's should only be affected by treasure hunter
apparently the information steams from a BST soloing Briareus for his +2 items.
I don't know if it's the same for all NMs there, but while I was farming Carabosse she dropped Card of Voyage almost every kill. (I'm inclined to say 100% but of course I don't have data to back that up, but it sure seemed like a lot)I had TH8+ every kill and only proc'd yellow whenever it was a NIN proc. However, I can say with absolute certainty that she did not drop a Voyage Coin until we proc'd yellow. This is after killing her at least 20 times that run.
Aly Saxena said: »
then ignore him and provide the correct info. ppl will listen to what is accurate if you provide it for them.
Josiahkf said: »
I've made a few cara empys as well and it's not 100% even with th8 but yeah, pretty damn high.
Out of my 100+ kills I saw maybe 5 voyage coins without yellow proc as well. mentally I just figured at the time "it must have a much lower drop rate than the other" without second guessing the mechanics
Out of my 100+ kills I saw maybe 5 voyage coins without yellow proc as well. mentally I just figured at the time "it must have a much lower drop rate than the other" without second guessing the mechanics
I suppose that makes sense. I'll have to take down some data next time I farm Cara again.
Over 150 Carabosse, probably 30 Briareus, over 100 Chloris, over 70 Glavoid, since the changes. If you saw the drops "without yellow", I'm going to say that you just didn't see yellow.
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Fenrir.Jinjo said: »
Over 150 Carabosse, probably 30 Briareus, over 100 Chloris, over 70 Glavoid, since the changes. If you saw the drops "without yellow", I'm going to say that you just didn't see yellow.
It's probably true, but I personally can't rule out them dropping (very rarely) without yellow.
Even if they can, it happens with such an extremely low probability that it's not worth your time at all to try to farm them without yellow.
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