[dev1088] Job Adjustments: Beastmaster

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Does this mean they won't be changing the recipe for Dipper Yuly?

They said they would, this is just the generic Dev update that is translated quickly in all languages.

The Community Reps provide more details into the subject than the automated dev updates do.

Slap in the face for all the dynamis soloing beasts. Thanx I can now opt to take my THF which kills way slower and less utility, or maybe DNC/THF since that'll at least have TH2.

What a horrible thing to do to a job that has rarely ever seen anything good from this game. Dipper and Falcorr have pretty much been lowered to almost useless. THANX SE :(

Having a pet that has one trait from one subjob is obviously too strong. Now parties will have to sub /THF is they want TH2 instead of just bringing a BST.

Wait, what am I saying. There is no logic here.

Really sad they did'nt do this the update that was now.
Been so many BSTs in dynamis lately that they've all started whining at me for no reason at all.
I don't think they see that the problem is 30 beastmasters all fighting over the same mobs. >_>


But, atleast it's not 95% ladybugs anymore... seeing another pet for once is actually pretty nice >_>(falcor)

There's gonna be people that don't read the update notes though :<

The amount of bsts in dynamis probably wont get that much lower, but they'll get less, so currency is probably gonna get worth more again, atleast.

As a NON-bandwagon BST that does Dynamis everyday, i don't fear this update. With procs in all honesty most likely won't make that big a difference. Maybe u wont see the 3-4 currency drops as often but any non-perle bst worth thier wieght in gold should not fear this update.

what Mishta said X10

The only good BST I now is a dead BST. Screw them fighting 3-4 mobs at once in Dyna and then taking your 1 add while you are procing.

This is when you "steal" mobs from them.
Atleast if there is proper competition to even claim a mob..

Pretty much. I tend to respect other players when they are dealing with adds. I get a bit annoyed by how many they pull, since they can only really keep claim on one/two even though with the pet out the mobs actually turn claimed/unclaimed all the time, but whatever.

When I am fighting one mob with one add though and manage to proc both and see this BST approach my 2 mobs and take the one I'm not engaged on it's war and I'll just haunt each and every set of mobs he goes for from that point on until he gets it.

As a BST that's does daily Dynamis with another BST and a THF, I can tell you that so far Falcorr still can get multiple drops on a procced mob. Doesn't hurt to have the THF drop over for some quick TH-7, though!
But, haven't noticed a nerf on pet and BST only mobs yet.

Any good, well-geared BST wont fear this "update" (read: nerf) nowhere near as the perle/nazuna BSTs you see 95% of the time...and god forbid there be proper player etiquette even among BSTs btw...just b/c that pos BST holds 4+ mobs that take him/her/it an eternity to kil, doesnt mean EVERY BST does it....who knew, right?

BST pets haven't had their TH nerfed yet.

cmon we are still qq'ing about this? oh noes, now you have to do a gearswap to get your pet back to TH3.. not to mention with the new pet:TH gear you can have TH on EVERY other pet so you arent stuck with only falcorr or dipper. please stop crying

No, not all of them ofc, but when there usually is between 15 and 25 bsts in a dreamland zone, and maybe 1 or 2 of them are decent people, it gets really annoying :P

Basically the way I play Dynamis on BST is to proc a mob leave the pet on it while I go try and proc another so that's 2 mobs at a time. Ok there will be times where there is a large group of mobs and I just throw my pet at the group but if there's a group of mobs the zone is probably pretty empty.

I agree with your comments makes perfect sense to me, if im in there with my mnk and samurai friend im pulling 4 mobs + at one time.... are we killing them damn fast though? absolutely, ul never see us holding 8 mobs because there all proc'd and just cant kill em quick enough.... thats the bug bear of dynamisfor most people.

Everyone thats whinning about bsts fighting more than 1 mob are just jealous they cant do it as well as a bst does so just suck it up. Dont forget people also go and attack bsts adds so it not just their fault. Ive seen people that arent bsts holding 2-3 mobs then when i got a link they also went after that still with 2-3 mobs being held.

Yeah, I'm sure if they started taking traits off your job of choice or your pets but said they'd add some of it back with gear, you'd be thrilled with it. You just think it's a good idea because it's not you.



You know I've been told over the years that if I want to get or do certain things I should level X, Y, or Z job. The advice was pretty practical not that I liked it or necessarily followed it. So now, I guess the shoe is on the other foot. Now instead of the BST being told "level something else," it's the BSTs that can now say "If you want to be able to do what we can, level the job yourself." Oh, but no that's just a travesty isn't it? We can't have that! Hypocrites.

not jealous fury that frankly I with my 3 man crew we will kill faster than the noob pearle bst holding 6-8 adds.

I am stating a fact and any one whos not a bst or even true bsts know I am right mnk sam thf kills 8 mobs faster than a bbst. Any one with common sense know this... how does this make me jealous that I cant solo 8 mobs like a tard?

I'm not upset by this at all for some reason. I guess I've always considered my BST a job that I'll use when I want to solo stuff I wouldn't dare try on other jobs. TH is never a reason I play BST, I have THF leveled for that. The TH trait to me has always just been a nice added bonus to an already powerful job and while yes of course it sucks to lose that, to me it doesn't really change much.

I don't think anyone is jealous here, rather annoyed by how disrespectful most BSTs are in Dynamis towards other people's pulls. They can pull multiple adds, so can other jobs. The difference, from my experience, is that BSTs will not hold back on someone else's set of mobs.

actually yes, yes i would be thrilled as long as it was something like TH that does not require fulltiming the gear. a good player gear swaps anyways, god forbid you have to macro pet:TH gear, land ONE hit, and then swap back. You shouldnt have TH at all, sub thf like everyone else. (except rng, who can only use th2 once per minute)

but actually, i dont really care, i hope you guys can get up to TH5 so you can drive the prices of currency into the ground, and you guys can make me a relic for chump change. either QQ and get out of my way, or flood the market. win win for me.

Why do people keep saying that "Bsts were never supposed to have TH in the first place"? That doesn't make any since. The only reason bst never had TH before was simply because SE never gave us a THF pet job until yuly. BST pets have always carried the job traits and killer effects of the main job ever since the job came out (CC PLD, homunlocus MNK etc.). Taking TH away from them would be equivalent of taking counter away from mnk pets, DA away from war pets, or TA away from thf pets(maybe thats incoming too since only THF is supposed to have TA right?).

We have had TH for the last 2 years (80 lvl cap) due to it being on yuly and people never complained about it. It was until the further cap increases that people started to complain about it. People realized that with the level cap increases bsts became very efficient for dynamis(and alot of other things by the way). So then like always when it is seen that bst can be more efficient by itself than a trio or duo, ppl then complain and say that its OP because they can hold x amount of mobs or this or that. They suddenly then act as if only bsts steal mobs in dynamis when there have been many comments here of people stealing bsts mobs. A jerk is a jerk no matter what job your on so stop acting as if only the bsts have no decency.

People have always hated bst as a job since it was created, it was always the black sheep of FFXI jobs. All the true bsts like myself that soloed to 75 back pre-COP or shortly after no the true pain of trying to solo with parties cussing you out, telling you to leave etc etc. This bst hating isn't something new to the community at all its always been there. What I don't understand is why? People always say "Well this is a mmorpg and you must play with other people!" Yeah thats true if you want to enjoy EG or do alot of events and stuff but some people have the ability to actually get things done in this multiplayer game by themselves, don't have to hate on them for doing so.

The bsts are still going to be in dynamis either way, now they are just gonna be there longer, so I guess you guys that are happy about the TH loss will have to reap what you have sewn.