Apoc 5 Hit Build

for the record this will be my entropy set with the only change being an augmented diamond ring to avoid the soul rings -stat, obviously huginn asuming nothing better turns up when i get the abjuration

All my sets are gimp apparently.

Drachenhorn for helm. Mekira on days where the bonus applies.

2da isn't that big a deal when it requires you to shift the rest of your gear.

Swap in Rose and Kokou earring and you should be set. During Embrava swap out Phorcys head for Bale and Bale hands for Phorcys.

I think you can try galdr ring too. galdr ring

Pretty sure those are rarer than drings, plus for Entropy it's equivalent to an Aquilo's Ring. Farming an augmented Diamond Ring would be a much better choice than trying to get Yilbegan to put out.

They seem to drop alot too.
Got two INT+7 ones in less than 30min while trying to get nin NQ feet about a year ago >_>
(first and only time I've farmed amber chests in that zone)

haste cap set i planned to carry over to apoc

i had heard using my oto would be good on the right days, i just dont currently use sc so itd be another macro slot, and looks like i finally have a reason to care about the draken

i know i need to give in on using my rose strap, was just being hopeful lol, if i get the last stp on ebody i shouldnt need the stp earring right?

rare and why do i get the feeling mab doesnt mean ***on entropy? diamond currently seems to be the best option, tho till that should i just use spiral or borrow my icesoul i already have for my blm?

Use spiral + icesoul ring till you can get an augmented diamond ring.

Yeah this set is good minus pole grip (Rose strap!!)

youre trolling right?

edit: only changes i plan/would make is maybe mars ring instead of tyrants and maybe anger bomblet tho it would need testing

curious, im guessing you have alot of focus on atk cap from looking at your builds, but why fulltime the qilin neck and spiral ring?

also i like your embrava set, been considering something to utilize porthos in an easy acc/atk cap situation (nni mainly) i may have to consider some variation of that set, i actually got whirlwind dirs yesterday lol

no, of course you can improve your set but this one is good for embrava situations.

and in current content where there is haste cap there is regain of some type :p

i dont envy the day we need to xhit a haste cap build, tho tbh i kind of doubt well even do that since the power of haste cap is rate of attack over number of hits to ws (usually some amount of overflow)

if you can afford 2x relics, you can afford hagneia and/or tyrants. get rid of that neck.

Also, nerfing embrava to 25 haste (+15 from haste) is still only 3 haste(ish) less than before. Your embrava sets shouldn't be going anywhere unless you were accounting for regain in a capped haste situation, and in that case it's minor tweaking.

Porthos is pretty bad for Apoc there are better multi attack options. (valk,enif)

You pretty much always have an fSTR issue with a rank18 weapon. (armada,valk)

And Apoc has 0 haste issues, making Porthos pretty much a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE option. I've seen 1 set that makes sense with Ogier hands but required Huginn feet (GL).


Rag:


Apoc you could swap Phorcys legs for Whirlwind during AM.

Embrava lets you cap delay reduction with 12% gear haste, which is what his set has. Post-nerf, you might need as much as 17% to fully cap depending on how they set Embrava values. Granted we don't know the exact value for LR's haste...

And yes, regain tweaks will be in order.

I'm aware. He said "here's my embrava set that won't exist soon" and I was replying with "you shouldn't be completely disposing of it".

At least thats what I wanted to convey.

800k can buy me both? 800k cant even buy me one you really should ask how i got them before you judge. Aegis took a little over 4 months of farming and Apoc just over a month but i did sell and Almace for that but with my play time now i just dont have the time to do that. Main reason im using that neck is the lack of a mala Hahava just wont put out. SE havent finished testing Embrava or PD yet they could have completely different effect of those that are known now.

"PROBABLY" you miss out the important word out of that.

edit:

Well if you want to come and kill odin for me you are more than welcome.

his embrava set looks good for rag only, dont think id bother with anything less than pure multihit sets for apoc

curious taint is that set for post nerf or your current?

having only armaberk myself i wonder more and more if anger bomblet is viable and still hold some level of xhit with the rest of my current gear

Probably be getting a march as well. The other DDs are going to get hurt a lot more from the haste nerf and alliances will compensate for them. (looking at you WAR)

Oh and btw that embrava set is NNI only dont do legion since cant find a group on odin that runs within my time frame. Im pretty sure you dont need alot of str for fodder mobs.

Right and what do you swap to for NMs and bosses? (use the same sets I'm sure)

Porthos is gimp, we are just trying to help. Dozens of people TP in Porthos,Ogier hands, regain moonshades etc. Typically they have no idea what they are doing. If you start posting gimp sets people might see them and think they are a good idea.

Enif - easy to get
Adaman hauberk - easy to get (armada just requires more gil)
Shadow - easy to get, takes luck but its a common drop off a lvl 75 content mob (again valk for more gil)

Instead of justifying your gear, fix it. Excuses never work in game or in RL.

Not seen the Adaman in the other sets?

Enif - can it be solo'd?
Shadow - again can it be solo'd?

The only time i use porthos as you can see is in the embrava and LR up and VW sets only options i have atm are porthos and adaman for tp. So what sets do you use for NMs and bosses in NNI?

My sets are posted.

And whats the point in item sets if Solo if your only option? Do you solo NN too? You are making Embrava sets...obviously you can't be solo. Take your NN group and have them help you kill Arch Omega or something. Anyways I'm talking to a brick wall, enjoy your Apoc. Please don't post sets in this thread and not be open to advice.

not for everything but on acc cap (probably atk cap aswell) i dont see why porthos is such a shitty option, it allows you to add in windbuffet into tp set(talking rag set only btw) where you dont need stp builds (nni or vw) id probably keep my current embrava set since its more of a catch all for situations youd need it, but i myself use porthos in nni and vw when not haste capped to max out my attack rounds rather than waste the potential in acc/atk boosts that do nothing
granted outside of those situations i keep my xhits on hand, and anything else is completely played by ear

i do alot of nni still, and am not dissapointed by what porthos/windbuffet do there

i will add though that when apoc is done ill probably stop using porthos, only use rag on crazy nms (or twilight scythe) in nni, i still see it being a fair option in most vw and i can post sets if people really want

edit: it can be hard for people to hear theyre doing it wrong lol, im just hoping the way im doing it isnt out done by other gear i already have, call me lazy i guess but trying to avoid nasty price tags when salvage revamp is right around the corner and im just starting to build my wifes mandau

Agreed, and even if you did find yourself at 40% you'd be better off spamming Cata to compensate than building a 17% set.

I am open to advice just not when its put accross as "Porthos is a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE option dont use it if you cant get these options dont post gimp item sets that other people will think are a good idea". Could have said there are superior options to Porthos in X X or X. My NNI group split long ago only ones i go with now are shout groups since im missing just 1 piece. The one thing i dont like is when people make assumptions like relics = has lots of gil.