Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Voidwatch is failed content how? Because you need more than 3 people to do it and you can't force a near 100% drop?
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It suffers the "evolith syndrome", aka amazing ideas plagued by horrible implementation.
A point system would be nice so you can buy overpriced rare items that drop from VW.
Would be close to a campaign system almost.
Would be close to a campaign system almost.
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failed when a person can get the same gear drop 10/20 runs while another person on same 20 runs will get nothing but ore and wood. Then e got stuff like evolith panktretron choco raceing and im sure few others the not coming to mind right now that get basicly no use sicne first implemented. Oh and lets not forget Woe here only 2 zones ever get done and only one those outside jp prime times.
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Voidwatch is failed content how? Because you need more than 3 people to do it and you can't force a near 100% drop?
Apparently you haven't done Voidwatch or you're suffering from Stockholm's.
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Like einherjar's too. I'd always rather work toward something than have a chance to get it 1/1 but then most likely go 1/79 or see a person who already has it get the next 4 of them.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Like einherjar's too. I'd always rather work toward something than have a chance to get it 1/1 but then most likely go 1/79 or see a person who already has it get the next 4 of them.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
this, so so so so so so so sooooooooooooooooooo much this.
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Like einherjar's too. I'd always rather work toward something than have a chance to get it 1/1 but then most likely go 1/79 or see a person who already has it get the next 4 of them.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
I would actually do these stupid events if there was some goal in sight. Einherjar was a great system for that.
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
Voidwatch is failed content how? Because you need more than 3 people to do it and you can't force a near 100% drop?
Apparently you haven't done Voidwatch or you're suffering from Stockholm's.
Nope, never done it.
When I'm active (not now, exams :/) was doing it about 3 times a week (4 fights each .. so about 90 minutes of my time) and I've completed over half of my VW wishlist. Bodies and ***, they're supposed to be rare yo.
Oh, and I don't regret any of the time I spent doing those fights, because they were fun regardless of the reward. People cry too much.
Congratulations on getting lucky? I have a Heka's Kalasiris (Akvan yo) myself and that doesn't change the fact that the loot system is terrible and has discouraged enough people to force some into quitting and server shouts to only occasionally set up runs. SE had momentum going after Abyssea and yet again they show they have no idea how to keep fans interested in playing the game.
I wanna help some friends get loot? Oh wait, I can't cause SEs loot system IS CUTTING EDGE LOOT DISTRO if we're to take the developers seriously. Nope, can't take them serious.
This is the premier content for crying out loud and barely anyone's doing it if you were to take my server's activity as any example.
I think ive said enough times that SE has little logic and has been quite effective in getting people to play other games rather than this one. Drops don't need to be lowman and it also doesn't need to be 100% drop but it does need to not rely on a dice roll which is what VW is.
I wanna help some friends get loot? Oh wait, I can't cause SEs loot system IS CUTTING EDGE LOOT DISTRO if we're to take the developers seriously. Nope, can't take them serious.
This is the premier content for crying out loud and barely anyone's doing it if you were to take my server's activity as any example.
I think ive said enough times that SE has little logic and has been quite effective in getting people to play other games rather than this one. Drops don't need to be lowman and it also doesn't need to be 100% drop but it does need to not rely on a dice roll which is what VW is.
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
I've completed over half of my VW wishlist. Bodies and ***, they're supposed to be rare yo.
Oh, and I don't regret any of the time I spent doing those fights, because they were fun regardless of the reward. People cry too much.
Oh, and I don't regret any of the time I spent doing those fights, because they were fun regardless of the reward. People cry too much.
Just a little tip to anyone, just because you think you may not need some of this gear, don't ever toss it, you may level a job, or it may become worthwhile for a new ws or spell. Just keep it, store it stick it on a mule, anything else is just doing your future self a disservice. Once this content gets old, no one is going to want to do it 10, 20 or 60 times so you can get it. Screw the dice... Seriously.
I kind of like the loot distribution system, because if there are only 10 people online at the time, we can grab 8 random friendslist people, or 8 random idiots from Jeuno and proceed as usual.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Like einherjar's too. I'd always rather work toward something than have a chance to get it 1/1 but then most likely go 1/79 or see a person who already has it get the next 4 of them.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
Once this content is older, how are we going to get groups set up for it? If you take 18 people as an ls to a nm with the intention of getting a single person a new item and then spend all freaking night doing it but never get one for them... Just isn't a good system.
I would actually do these stupid events if there was some goal in sight. Einherjar was a great system for that.
WoE has already suuffered from this peole did the new zones for liek a month then stoped. So now noone can get gear from zones sept 7 and if lucky 9 not mention spells from it.
why couldnt they done it similar to abby caskets be able take out the gear u want then add rest to a treasure pool.
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
I kind of like the loot distribution system, because if there are only 10 people online at the time, we can grab 8 random friendslist people, or 8 random idiots from Jeuno and proceed as usual.
Even if the overall drop rate is decreased by a medium amount, it will still result in more total usable items for any group.
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Caitsith.Heimdall said: »
why couldnt they done it similar to abby caskets be able take out the gear u want then add rest to a treasure pool.
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Statistics.
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Only thing I've gotten out of VW is a log mansion, started out as a cabin but i had enough wood to build a few extensions. Got lucky ONCE with a stendu ring, but yea, gogo logwatch.
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They already stated 'add to lootpool' could be abused by linkshells selling gear to people and that is why it wasn't going to be added.
Still think something like einherjar would work while linkshells couldn't sell gear.
At least if they could do something like, an item you already have can't be rolled into your box, similar to how it is if you were to fight a mob with a certain item that everyone in your pt had, it just wouldn't drop.
But in this case it would just be re-rolled into someone else box instead of your's.
But in this case it would just be re-rolled into someone else box instead of your's.
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
Still think something like einherjar would work while linkshells couldn't sell gear.
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Just like you can still sell VW stuff. Just have to have the person in the ally and they get a box regardless of if they do anything. Just think they are being really hard headed and stubborn about this for little benefit of anyone. Plus, why do they care if people sell r/ex. That's an in-game economy boost and back when they did that survey they actually had that as an option.
Just genuinely confused why they are so desperate to make our lives as much of a pain in the arse as possible.
Just genuinely confused why they are so desperate to make our lives as much of a pain in the arse as possible.
If they played the game they'd know better.
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
At least if they could do something like, an item you already have can't be rolled into your box, similar to how it is if you were to fight a mob with a certain item that everyone in your pt had, it just wouldn't drop.
But in this case it would just be re-rolled into someone else box instead of your's.
But in this case it would just be re-rolled into someone else box instead of your's.
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Still think something like einherjar would work while linkshells couldn't sell gear.
/agree x2
There is no way Voidwatch will get old... How many empyrians are out there? 1500 plates a empy... The main problem is that people can't all gather together for these events with all the right classes to proc properly all at one time.
Wait wait, so.. are they saying that the VW caskets will have more treasures per person depending on the amount of people in the alliance? Or that the more people you have, the better your chances of seeing rare treasure?
Or am I reading too far into it, and it's just the same amount per person, which just equals "more total treasure" the more people you have? Which would make no difference since you can't trade or put in treasure pool.
Or am I reading too far into it, and it's just the same amount per person, which just equals "more total treasure" the more people you have? Which would make no difference since you can't trade or put in treasure pool.
Cerberus.Retsujo said: »
Wait wait, so.. are they saying that the VW caskets will have more treasures per person depending on the amount of people in the alliance? Or that the more people you have, the better your chances of seeing rare treasure?
Or am I reading too far into it, and it's just the same amount per person, which just equals "more total treasure" the more people you have? Which would make no difference since you can't trade or put in treasure pool.
Or am I reading too far into it, and it's just the same amount per person, which just equals "more total treasure" the more people you have? Which would make no difference since you can't trade or put in treasure pool.
The more people you have the more treasure there is because there are more bodies to get the useless junk out of the chest.
Say 1 person gets 5 pieces of junk, if there are 18 people that's 90 drops per fight.
Cerberus.Retsujo said: »
Wait wait, so.. are they saying that the VW caskets will have more treasures per person depending on the amount of people in the alliance? Or that the more people you have, the better your chances of seeing rare treasure?
Or am I reading too far into it, and it's just the same amount per person, which just equals "more total treasure" the more people you have? Which would make no difference since you can't trade or put in treasure pool.
Or am I reading too far into it, and it's just the same amount per person, which just equals "more total treasure" the more people you have? Which would make no difference since you can't trade or put in treasure pool.
Fupafighters said: »
There is no way Voidwatch will get old... How many empyrians are out there? 1500 plates a empy... The main problem is that Heavy Metal is obscenely rare to the point that doing hours of runs may result in 1 pouch/plate IF you're lucky.
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