Siren.Kalilla said: »
btw I voted/liked for it to help, if it helps
Thank you.
well that's + 1 I guess lol~
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Siren.Kalilla said: » btw I voted/liked for it to help, if it helps Thank you. well that's + 1 I guess lol~ Just a thought, but do you have any idea how overpowered Scythe would be if you could ride Catastrophe aftermath and throw out overpowered Entropys?
Mishaa said: » I already understand that, believe me if this doesn't work that wont either. The vast majority of people are already on one side or another, those on the fence wont likely be moved until after the weapon skill is on normal servers. If this doesnt get enough support to change a thing then it wont and i'll accept that people just don't care to change it. You really only have til mid december, if you really want it changed you gotta try. Offline
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Fenrir.Niniann said: » Just a thought, but do you have any idea how overpowered Scythe would be if you could ride Catastrophe aftermath and throw out overpowered Entropys? D: well what is Ukko's Fury then?!? I kid... sortof Offline
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Siren.Kalilla said: » Mishaa said: » I already understand that, believe me if this doesn't work that wont either. The vast majority of people are already on one side or another, those on the fence wont likely be moved until after the weapon skill is on normal servers. If this doesnt get enough support to change a thing then it wont and i'll accept that people just don't care to change it. You really only have til mid december, if you really want it changed you gotta try. Yeah I know, but people rarely like to lose hope until they see it not working for themselves. Mishaa said: » D: well what is Ukko's Fury then?!? I kid... sortof The difference between Ukko's and SuperAwesome!Entropy with Catastrophe aftermath is that Ukon isn't a "utility" weapon. It's a pure DD weapon. Apoc is a "utility" weapon, in that its primary function is not to do damage. It's more like a blood-tank weapon. Ukko's Fury don't got shizzat on Tachi: Shoha
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Fenrir.Niniann said: » Mishaa said: » D: well what is Ukko's Fury then?!? I kid... sortof The difference between Ukko's and SuperAwesome!Entropy with Catastrophe aftermath is that Ukon isn't a "utility" weapon. It's a pure DD weapon. Apoc is a "utility" weapon, in that it's primary function is not to do damage. It's more like a blood-tank weapon. I think it would then simply switch roles no? Offline
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Valefor.Prothescar said: » Ukko's Fury don't got shizzat on Tachi: Shoha Oookay... tachi: Shoha on... whats the myth/emp/relic of choice for that these days? Mishaa said: » I think it would then simply switch roles no? No it'd be an uber tanking weapon of doom, and PLD would only be useful in situations that DRK can't facetank, which would be limited to a few T3 Voidwatch fights like Harpy *** and idk. At 99 those might not even be an issue. Offline
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Fenrir.Niniann said: » Mishaa said: » I think it would then simply switch roles no? No it'd be an uber tanking weapon of doom, and PLD would only be useful in situations that DRK can't facetank, which is limited to a few T3 Voidwatch fights like Harpy *** and idk. I have no idea how that would make sense lol... the aftermath on apoc doesnt help you tank?? or am I missing something ... Im 'thinking' that you are thinking of catastrophe's drain effect which is not an aftermath. Feel free to correct me, never had an apoc of my own :/ Mishaa said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » Ukko's Fury don't got shizzat on Tachi: Shoha Oookay... tachi: Shoha on... whats the myth/emp/relic of choice for that these days? 1) Mythic 2) Relic 3) Keitonotachi 4) Everything else I digress, DRK thread etc. Apocalypse's aftermath helps you tank in that you can wear PDT gear while TPing in place of some haste. Fixing the ws scythe for dark is not going to change anything.
You must first change the root of the problem, SE's way of thinking. How SE views what dark should be: -What if blm could melee with penalties to magic damage in exchange for that- How the community views dark should be: -War using arcane powers to achieve said output- Mishaa said: » I have no idea how that would make sense lol... the aftermath on apoc doesnt help you tank?? or am I missing something ... Im 'thinking' that you are thinking of catastrophe's drain effect which is not an aftermath. Feel free to correct me, never had an apoc of my own :/ It allows you to have capped haste in a defensive set. Nightfyre took down his set, so I don't remember exactly what % of -MDT/PDT you're looking at, and what your x-hit is at, but it's still really strong. Not to mention you will be using Catastrophe to keep your aftermath up, which heals you. Odin.Hitoseijuro said: » Fixing the ws scythe for dark is not going to change anything. You must first change the root of the problem, SE's way of thinking. How SE views what dark should be: -What if blm could melee with penalties to magic damage in exchange for that- How the community views dark should be: -War using arcane powers to achieve said output- you be talkin superior MMO talk -> :c Offline
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Odin.Hitoseijuro said: » Fixing the ws scythe for dark is not going to change anything. You must first change the root of the problem, SE's way of thinking. How SE views what dark should be: -What if blm could melee with penalties to magic damage in exchange for that- How the community views dark should be: -War using arcane powers to achieve said output- That may be, but in the mean time whats wrong with a bump to what may be our final scythe weapon skill? Offline
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Fenrir.Niniann said: » Mishaa said: » I have no idea how that would make sense lol... the aftermath on apoc doesnt help you tank?? or am I missing something ... Im 'thinking' that you are thinking of catastrophe's drain effect which is not an aftermath. Feel free to correct me, never had an apoc of my own :/ It allows you to have capped haste in a defensive set. Nightfyre took down his set, so I don't remember exactly what % of -MDT/PDT you're looking at, and what your x-hit is at, but it's still really strong. Not to mention you will be using Catastrophe to keep your aftermath up, which heals you. Oh I see, but that is possible with or without a strong entropy just possibly - damage output. Mishaa said: » Oh I see, but that is possible with or without a strong entropy just possibly - damage output. Well yeah, but strong damage output coupled with survivability and hate tools is what puts x-job ahead of y-job. Answer is to wear a ridill, sub MNK, and spam Spirits Within.
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Siren.Kalilla said: » I'm not really sure what to say, but not all of the new weapon skills were meant to be the best of the best for every job that has access to them. Some of the weapon skills were designed in mind for jobs that don't have access to some of the more powerful weapon skills. Also it's fine linking to the official forum, some people just don't like going there for one reason or another. I'll be able to confirm or refute the comparison to Cata shortly but in the meantime, this is what I have. Also wouldn't start your request off with:
"People here get very opinionated so I'll try to keep this short and simple." (although I think that is a much better quality than not having an opinion at all.) You may not be an active user here, but if you want the support of that group it is best not to put labels on them. Offline
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Siren.Kalilla said: » Also wouldn't start your request off with: "People here get very opinionated so I'll try to keep this short and simple." You may not be an active user here, but if you want the support of that group it is best not to put labels on them. It was intended as a friendly 'poke', I may not post much but I read a lot so I have a some idea of how the community is here. Mishaa said: » That may be, but in the mean time whats wrong with a bump to what may be our final scythe weapon skill? The only good things SE has done for drk are giving us a trait that helps with soul eater and fixing the timer on last resort(something we should have been given since the haste cap). Offline
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Odin.Hitoseijuro said: » Mishaa said: » That may be, but in the mean time whats wrong with a bump to what may be our final scythe weapon skill? The only good things SE has done for drk are giving us a trait that helps with soul eater and fixing the timer on last resort(something we should have been given since the haste cap). At least the car would look a bit better? Odin.Hitoseijuro said: » Mishaa said: » That may be, but in the mean time whats wrong with a bump to what may be our final scythe weapon skill? The only good things SE has done for drk are giving us a trait that helps with soul eater and fixing the timer on last resort(something we should have been given since the haste cap). Last i saw drk can use 2 relics, 2 emps, has a good mythic and gotten alot of magic. Bahamut.Zangada said: » Odin.Hitoseijuro said: » Mishaa said: » That may be, but in the mean time whats wrong with a bump to what may be our final scythe weapon skill? The only good things SE has done for drk are giving us a trait that helps with soul eater and fixing the timer on last resort(something we should have been given since the haste cap). Last i saw drk can use 2 relics, 2 emps, has a good mythic and gotten alot of magic. |
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