Redemption Or Caladbold?

this ^

my set is a true 6 hit lol.. moonshade regain factors in by the end to make it enough.. and for torcleaver yeah im sure tp bonus moonshade is better, but i prefer mine and work it into most sets

Do what I did, do both

That's true, and as far as I know, 7hit is overall better than 6hit unless it's on really weak mobs?

Gimping your WS damage for a random amount of regain is horribly gimp.
Cala should be 7 hitted with the current gear available. I'm almost done with it so I'll put some sets together.

yes, yes it is its how i do my apoc sets and i end in 100% sooo yeah why don't you just try it and not just disregard something because your stupid to understand it.

random? its 1 tic regain, aka 1 regain every 3 seconds i hardly call that random, 1 tp ~ .7 store tp so assuming you even get 1 tic of regain during all 6 of your swings you would have enough. and like i did say, moonshade with tp bonus might be better for some ppl like your masa, but its gimp for apoc as well as most ppl who's ws modifiers mean absolutely nothing.

i'd hate to see your math grades, because i said 6 hit? never once said 5 hit for cala. Soo let us add it in.

16.2 x 5 = 81 + 13 from ws + your 7.21 tp = 101.21% tp

lol caught it before u deleted it

Pfft, obviously he was taking into account the fact that you'll miss all your weaponskills! Silly drks!

NEEDS MORE 5 HIT voidwatch builds!

Besides what others are pointing out, that's also assuming no Double Attacks or Triple Attacks occurring, since if either of those manage to occur, it'll mess with the number of hits it takes for you to get to 100% TP. What if, due to a double or triple attack, you get your five swings in after your weaponskill well before the regain gives you the 7.21 TP? You'll likely get another swing in, and boom, instant 7-hit rather than the 6-hit you're claiming.

ftfy

-_-

you know it hurts enough when it actually does happen, no need to rub it in <_<;;

also I always, ALWAYS use ACC food when playing on my DRK

random? its 1 tic regain, aka 1 regain every 3 seconds i hardly call that random, 1 tp ~ .7 store tp so assuming you even get 1 tic of regain during all 6 of your swings you would have enough. and like i did say, moonshade with tp bonus might be better for some ppl like your masa, but its gimp for apoc as well as most ppl who's ws modifiers mean absolutely nothing.[/quote]


Foot in mouth much?

It is random. The amount of time it takes you to get to 100tp is not a fixed amount and the time you WS between "tics" is not fixed. The regain you get to 100tp will be different after each WS depends on the time of the "tic" the amount of haste you have and if you DA/TA/QA. Building around a 1tp/tic regain earring is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE with all the stp available in the game. We are also discussing Cala which benefits from having a TPbonus moonshade. Even with Apoc its not needed, I 5hit just fine.

no im not, read harder, i factor'd in 13 tp for ws which is ONLY using rose strap and /sam. so i gave you LOTS of play in what gear u ws in. and the double attack factor is low. and it just adds to ur DOT in the end.

only half in there

Well i don't have those temp items yet. When i'll get them i'll test torcleaver again on high def mobs.
However you're right, Torcleaver is supposed to be a stronger ws, i remember a 3k + on DL while Quietus hardly reached 2.4k.

I put a couple sets up on my page. How do they look?
Armadaberk has 6stp 3da.

Like item sets

Fact

So I saw someone running around in this setup as 85 PLD the other day. Thought it was... interesting? xD



Giving Caladbolg users a bad name!

I absorbed Warcry effect on Kholomondumo which put my attack close to cap i think, then i did a 2.6k Torcleaver. With proper gears i think i can do more.

clearly an idle set built around refresh/defense/vit

These were my sets before I quit:

TP low ACC TP:

phasmida belt and tyrant's ring would be improvements.

TP High ACC:

5 STP 2 DA E:Body, HQ would obviously be an improvement.

TP High ACC with Marches/Last Resort:

If you are recieving marches for whatever reason, you actually only need 17% Haste in gear during Last Resort. I was never that fortunate in Voidwatch though.

Torcleaver LR Down:


Torcleaver LR Up:


TP Bonus Moonshade, and Dilaram's sollerets would be an improvement over Onyx boost for LR down set, havent done any math to compare them to jingang when LR is up.