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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-10-04 10:24:33
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So i just bought this computer last tuesday and its to arrive this thursday. I admit i over looked the fact that it does NOT have an HDMI port rather it has a DVI port. Im kinda upset about that because had i spent another 50 bucks i couldve gotten with HDMI compatability All in all I was wondering if DVI is any good in comparison to HDMI cause i really dnt want to be stuck using VGA T_T;;
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By Bahamut.Enkidou 2011-10-04 10:39:16
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Hooking it up to a TV?

DVI-D is just like HDMI. Technically the only difference you will run into is that HDMI can also carry the audio signal. With DVI you just have to separate your video and audio with an extra cable.

You are good to go either way.
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-10-04 10:41:11
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Bahamut.Enkidou said: »
Hooking it up to a TV? DVI-D is just like HDMI. Technically the only difference you will run into is that HDMI can also carry the audio signal. With DVI you just have to separate your video and audio with an extra cable. You are good to go either way.

Sweet u just made my thursday a bit better haha oh and it was for comp and eventually TV
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By Leviathan.Assane 2011-10-04 10:42:06
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HDMI and DVI picture quality is the same, only that HDMI support audio when DVI doesn't support it.
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By Asura.Solara 2011-10-04 10:43:23
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Functionally they're pretty similar in terms of visual quality, but the HDMI is superior just because of the wider array of compatible devices.
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By Deemos 2011-10-04 10:46:40
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Just get a DVI to HDMI cable, I share my desktop on Samsung TV with it
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-10-04 10:53:14
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use the DVI on a monitor, HDMI on a tv.
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By Carbuncle.Kyofooyo 2011-10-04 11:17:23
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Honestly, I prefer DVI. Many computer monitors come with pretty shitty built in speakers, so monitors with only DVI are cheaper, giving you more money to buy an awesome sound system separate from the monitor.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-10-04 11:19:55
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Also, Monitor cables go into the graphics card, and you'd have to use a separate audio cable to get any sound anyways.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-10-04 11:35:27
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go to monoprice they sell cables for hella cheap, you'll save a ton of money.

kvazz some graphics cards carry audio signal now



OP if you want audio to your monitor/TV you'll prolly want a 3.5mm audio cable (the normal green cable that goes from your computer to your speakers) along with a DVI cable if your TV/Monitor has DVI connection. If it only has HDMI (no DVI) it's possible you won't have a 3.5mm audio jack so you can use a Y cable 3.5mm to RCA


with a DVI to HDMI cable to carry the video only



the last thing you want to make sure is that you get the correct DVI connection, there is DVI-I and DVI-D

(comparison both dual link)



(comparison of all including single link and VGA)
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-10-04 11:50:34
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Deemos said: »
Just get a DVI to HDMI cable, I share my desktop on Samsung TV with it
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Also, Monitor cables go into the graphics card, and you'd have to use a separate audio cable to get any sound anyways.


Pretty much all you need to know.

I use an DVI to HDMI for my PC -> HDTV connection. Since the sound card (or lolintegrated) is isolated, you're gonna need separate audio anyway.

If you have only a VGA connection (I doubt it, since we're in the 21st century) most HDTV's have a VGA option as well. I know mine does, which I currently slot my Xbox360 into, since it's the highest truly compatible picture the lol360 can use.
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By Fenrir.Laraul 2011-10-04 21:08:44
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If you have only a VGA connection (I doubt it, since we're in the 21st century) most HDTV's have a VGA option as well. I know mine does, which I currently slot my Xbox360 into, since it's the highest truly compatible picture the lol360 can use.

You don't have much experience with HDTVs. Not many come with VGA ports. They are more common on smaller TVs or HD monitors but TVs larger than 40" typically don't have them.

And DVI/HDMI (they are the same thing) will provide a picture quality of equal or better quality than VGA.

What's with putting "lol" before words?
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-10-04 21:13:42
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Fenrir.Laraul said: »
What's with putting "lol" before words?
integrated sound cards suck.
as for lol360, he's probably tripping or something like that.
edit: actually, I just realized the 360 has big limitations.... what the hell. lol
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-10-04 21:17:19
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Phoenix.Fredjan said: »
Fenrir.Laraul said: »
What's with putting "lol" before words?
integrated sound cards suck.
as for lol360, he's probably tripping or something like that.
edit: actually, I just realized the 360 has big limitations.... what the hell. lol

Actually not all integrated sound is bad. Assuming your motherboard isn't garbage.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2011-10-05 11:00:12
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Alright peoples.

HDMI and DVI are *electrically* the same ***... (WOW how comes ?)

Well their connectors physically different for a reason:

HDCP (yeah Hollywood *** but they have the money and pay the people who define standards out)

In the end it boils down to:

Having HDMI gives you all capability a DVI-D (digital only DVI) connection plus digital sound and HDCP compliance (yay it let you watch BluRay videos).

So of course having a true HDMI connector gives you more connectivity options.

Now regarding the OP post, if all you will do is connect a computer display to the PC, DVI is "ALL YOU WILL EVER NEED". :)
 
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By Odin.Rues 2011-10-05 11:28:53
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Depending on what graphics card you have, you can actualy get video and audio out of the DVI connector.

I'm pretty sure most of the semi-recent cards supports this.

(Edit: most semi-recent NVIDIA cards, I don't know much about ATI)

Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
always makes me cringe when people worry about hdmi for audio when using build in tv speakers

that's like buying a 2 thousand dollar amplifier in your car and buying a 50 dollar subwoofer

It also one less cable to plug in.
 
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-10-05 12:20:44
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depends on the speakers and the boards d/a resolution.

It stinks that I can't even use my half decent audio most of the time due to the possibility of a noise violation...
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-10-05 12:21:53
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Fenrir.Mariane said: »
Alright peoples.

HDMI and DVI are *electrically* the same ***... (WOW how comes ?)

Well their connectors physically different for a reason:

HDCP (yeah Hollywood *** but they have the money and pay the people who define standards out)

In the end it boils down to:

Having HDMI gives you all capability a DVI-D (digital only DVI) connection plus digital sound and HDCP compliance (yay it let you watch BluRay videos).

So of course having a true HDMI connector gives you more connectivity options.

Now regarding the OP post, if all you will do is connect a computer display to the PC, DVI is "ALL YOU WILL EVER NEED". :)

digital cable is a digital cable yo, like people trying to say the gold plated ends on hdmi cables are better...
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By Fenrir.Laraul 2011-10-05 16:33:31
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My system has two mini-display ports and one DVI-I port. All three ports are capable of accepting two monitors.

DVI-I is a big ugly unfriendly port. So I use the mini-display ports cuz they are easier to connect. Display-port is the successor to HDMI (which succeeded DVI). The GPU also does audio.
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2011-10-05 20:04:39
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
digital cable is a digital cable yo, like people trying to say the gold plated ends on hdmi cables are better...

Shhhh (you don't want to ruin a multi billion dollar business do you ? lol)

People pay for "Monster Cables" because they're gullible. Yes if it's digital it's either 1 or 0, ON or OFF or ALL or NOTHING.

So there's five LVDS (Low Voltage Digital Signaling) pairs on a HDMI cable(It's a sort of very high speed SERIAL communication). If a single signal of the cable is broken, you get no image. Nothing but a blank screen. :)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Minasuki 2011-10-05 20:53:12
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Fenrir.Laraul said: »
My system has two mini-display ports and one DVI-I port. All three ports are capable of accepting two monitors.

DVI-I is a big ugly unfriendly port. So I use the mini-display ports cuz they are easier to connect. Display-port is the successor to HDMI (which succeeded DVI). The GPU also does audio.


Mini DisplayPort is not a successor for HDMI, its just Apple's version of an HDMI port

Mini DisplayPort (2008) is capable of driving resolutions up to 2560×1600
HDMI version 1.0 - 1.2 (2002) was only capable of driving resolutions up to 1920×1200
HDMI version 1.3 (2006) is capable of driving resolutions up to 2560×1600 just like the Mini DisplayPort and was created 2 years prior
HDMI version 1.4 (2009) is capable of driving resolutions up to 4096×2160


Now back to the original post, like everyone else mentioned DVI is just an HDMI without audio capabilities
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-10-05 21:13:20
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I threw together a wishlist computer the other day on newegg and the cards could support the 2560x1600 resolution, but then I looked at monitors, and even if I built that, I wouldn't be able to afford the monitors to take advantage of it. So I'm going to scale it down a bit.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-10-06 11:02:52
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
digital cable is a digital cable yo, like people trying to say the gold plated ends on hdmi cables are better...

audiophiles don't use gold plated because of better sound quality they use it because they're resistant to corrosion. the only thing people need to keep in mind is that you're connecting gold plated to gold plated connectors to minimize chances for galvanic corrosion. saying there is no upside or advantage to gold plated connectors is ignorant.

Copper has better conductivity though
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By Odin.Daemun 2011-10-06 11:15:28
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Carbuncle.Tweeek said: »
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
digital cable is a digital cable yo, like people trying to say the gold plated ends on hdmi cables are better...

audiophiles don't use gold plated because of better sound quality they use it because they're resistant to corrosion. the only thing people need to keep in mind is that you're connecting gold plated to gold plated connectors to minimize chances for galvanic corrosion. saying there is no upside or advantage to gold plated connectors is ignorant.

Copper has better conductivity though
Silver has less resistance than copper
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By Odin.Daemun 2011-10-06 11:17:32
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
always makes me cringe when people worry about hdmi for audio when using build in tv speakers

that's like buying a 2 thousand dollar amplifier in your car and buying a 50 dollar subwoofer
Quite often people buy a two thousand dollar amp, and then put 24 fifty dollar subwoofers in the vehicle. It works wonders.

Output is always better to be bottlenecked by the output device, rather than the signal transmitting device. This creates long lasting equipment, and best user experience; no matter the facet
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