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By Mesic 2011-09-18 05:11:25
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Asura.Ceraphina said: »
The only thing I don't like about pot users is how obnoxious they are. They're like the gamer girls of recreational drugs. I wish it was legalized just so I don't have to hear about it or guys like Mesic.

ill agree that last post was, as to why i just cut out a lot of it.
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2011-09-19 07:35:04
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Mesic said: »
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Mesic said: »
first there is no correlation to lung cancer, if anything its been shown to help lung cancer.

Flion was right. You're going to spew complete nonsense in defense of your addiction. You sir, are a *** idiot.

Its interesting to me for people like this and flion, who have never actually been show that it causes brain damage or injury, or lung cancer, yet believe it does. And do they answer me with science or scientific studies that prove such (even ridiculous govt ones?) no. They don't. They just call me an idiot and call it an argument. You know why they dont? Cause such arguments don't exist.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

Washington Post Study finds no marijuana cancer link

http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer

Web MD Pot smoking not linked to lung cancer (Study Shows No Increased Risk for Even the Heaviest Marijuana Smokers)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Science Daily: Marijuana use cuts lung cancer tumor growth in half

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Sorry to bump this but this made me laugh even harder. Dude is quoting research on THC yet the post is about smoking pot. THE references you just listed are for THC and even they have quotes like:

Preet says much work is needed to clarify the pathway by which THC functions, and cautions that some animal studies have shown that THC can stimulate some cancers. "THC offers some promise, but we have a long way to go before we know what its potential is," she said.

Hell even the article listed RIGHT NEXT to your bottom reference shows these headlines:

Growing Evidence Of Marijuana Smoke's Potential Dangers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090805110741.htm

Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm

Impact On Lungs Of One Cannabis Joint Equal To Up To Five Cigarettes
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070731085550.htm

Emotional Intelligence And The Use Of Tobacco And Cannabis
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071102091207.htm

So before quoting magic research that is not relevant to your point maybe you should read it hippie. I mean every one of your references has ***like:

Studies suggest that marijuana smoke contains 50% higher concentrations of chemicals linked to lung cancer than cigarette smoke. Marijuana smokers also tend to inhale deeper than cigarette smokers and hold the inhaled smoke in their lungs longer.

Oh and referencing old studies done in California does not to help your argument. FAIL at proving a point.
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By Mesic 2011-09-22 18:45:09
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Sorry to bump this but this made me laugh even harder. Dude is quoting research on THC yet the post is about smoking pot. THE references you just listed are for THC and even they have quotes like:

Preet says much work is needed to clarify the pathway by which THC functions, and cautions that some animal studies have shown that THC can stimulate some cancers. "THC offers some promise, but we have a long way to go before we know what its potential is," she said.

Hell even the article listed RIGHT NEXT to your bottom reference shows these headlines:

Growing Evidence Of Marijuana Smoke's Potential Dangers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090805110741.htm

Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm

Impact On Lungs Of One Cannabis Joint Equal To Up To Five Cigarettes
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070731085550.htm

Emotional Intelligence And The Use Of Tobacco And Cannabis
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071102091207.htm

So before quoting magic research that is not relevant to your point maybe you should read it hippie. I mean every one of your references has ***like:

Studies suggest that marijuana smoke contains 50% higher concentrations of chemicals linked to lung cancer than cigarette smoke. Marijuana smokers also tend to inhale deeper than cigarette smokers and hold the inhaled smoke in their lungs longer.

Oh and referencing old studies done in California does not to help your argument. FAIL at proving a point.

Good job quote mining, lets read the rest of your quote there you got from my article yea?

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Studies suggest that marijuana smoke contains 50% higher concentrations of chemicals linked to lung cancer than cigarette smoke. Marijuana smokers also tend to inhale deeper than cigarette smokers and hold the inhaled smoke in their lungs longer.

So why isn’t smoking marijuana as dangerous as smoking cigarettes in terms of cancer risk?

The answer isn’t clear, but the experts say it might have something to do with tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, which is a chemical found in marijuana smoke.

Cellular studies and even some studies in animal models suggest that THC has antitumor properties, either by encouraging the death of genetically damaged cells that can become cancerous
or by restricting the development of the blood supply that feeds tumors, Tashkin tells WebMD.

This is from the article i referenced thats titled: Study Shows No Increased Risk for Even the Heaviest Marijuana Smokers.

Did you really think webmd would contradict their own title of their own article with the material contained in that article? Maybe before claiming I haven't read my articles because of what they contain you should make sure you have too?

You didn't prove a thing in reference to cancer. None of your articles here claim that it causes cancer either or that it doesn't help it, one even notes at the end.

Marijuana smoke caused significantly more damage to cells and DNA than tobacco smoke, the researchers note. However, tobacco smoke caused chromosome damage while marijuana did not.

My articles stated that it didn't cause lung cancer and that it helped with tumor growth, (one in reference to smoked marijuana) you did not disprove those articles or refute their point, you simply pointed out that its more harmful on the lungs in a sense (but this doesn't mean it causes cancer anymore than tobacco does or that it doesn't help it, see the quote above), but not more harmful in ways that are going to actually kill you, or even play a significant role on you're health, unlike cigarattes. try again.
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By Mesic 2011-09-22 19:02:28
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Wait (i just figured this out), you dont even know what thc is, lol.
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2011-09-24 09:05:03
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Your logic is beyond ridiculous so I'm assuming you smoke a very large amount of pot. Go back, reread the articles, stop only reading what you want to see and then maybe if you focus hard enough you will see it through the smoke. You're an idiot.
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