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 Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-09-16 09:51:02
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Mesic said: »
first there is no correlation to lung cancer, if anything its been shown to help lung cancer.

Flion was right. You're going to spew complete nonsense in defense of your addiction. You sir, are a *** idiot.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-09-16 09:56:10
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I used to smoke hella weed. I got older, got a family to provide for, and a good job that does random tests, so I quit.

Weed never stopped me from being a contributing member of society. Weed never influenced me to do anything I would not have already done sober. Weed never cost me a job, gave me any health problems, etc. Weed just chilled me out and helped me sleep. I miss it, but I have too many responsibilities in my life to risk it now.

I have found though, that drugs make a fantastic scapegoat for lazy and mentally damaged individuals to pin blame on when they lack the tools to take their place as an adult in society.

EDIT: The more I think on it, I don't really miss smoking weed. It was fun when I was in my 20's, but I like being sober and focused on getting things done in my life now, and FF is really, really hard for me to play while high. I just don't have time for weed anymore.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-09-16 09:58:43
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Mesic said: »
first there is no correlation to lung cancer, if anything its been shown to help lung cancer.
Flion was right. You're going to spew complete nonsense in defense of your addiction. You sir, are a *** idiot.


Yeah, I am all for the green stuffs, but this "helping lungz" statement is a little far-fetched. It may not be as harmful as cigs or cigars, but your still taking in smoke. Thats like saying alcohol helps to regenerate the liver. If we are gonna support Mary Jane, lets prove that we can bring some facts to the table. lol

Cerberus.Rayik said: »
I used to smoke hella weed. I got older, got a family to provide for, and a good job that does random tests, so I quit. Weed never stopped me from being a contributing member of society. Weed never influenced me to do anything I would not have already done sober. Weed never cost me a job, gave me any health problems, etc. Weed just chilled me out and helped me sleep. I miss it, but I have too many responsibilities in my life to risk it now. I have found though, that drugs make a fantastic scapegoat for lazy and mentally damaged individuals to pin blame on when they lack the tools to take their place as an adult in society. EDIT: The more I think on it, I don't really miss smoking weed. It was fun when I was in my 20's, but I like being sober and focused on getting things done in my life now, and FF is really, really hard for me to play while high. I just don't have time for weed anymore.


^^This

I am 26 with a sweet job and no kids. Damned if I dont toke up every now and again. Cause I know when I settle down, there can be no more bluntz and beers on back to back weekends. Enjoying while I can. lol
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-09-16 09:59:50
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Personally I find stoned people to be very annoying to have around.

Kinda random thought.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-09-16 10:03:51
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Personally I find stoned people to be very annoying to have around. Kinda random thought.

I find that there are annoying smokers and smokers that are really cool to hang out with. It varies per person.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-09-16 10:06:47
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alcohol and many other things like Mj can be use for better things, but it is because of the abuse and mis-use of these things that makes it frown upon.

some people use it because of medical needs, alright np, but someone going. "ahmahgawd it is used for medical uses, it needs to be legal, yet I dont want it for medical uses but rather fly the rainbow with nyan-cat" is just... dumb :/
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By Cerberus.Nostylin 2011-09-16 10:12:00
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Bismarck.Moonlightespada said: »
Psycho Slip said: »
Fenrir.Enternius said: »
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of a smear-campaign in the 1980s (I believe) where hemp was starting to become a substitute for cloth and wood and some wood guy made it illegal to use on the grounds that it's a drug at all.
Goes back way further than the 80's.
1920s if i remember right.

1933-34 time.. i believe. if not idk :(
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-09-16 10:17:07
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Bismarck.Misao said: »
alcohol and many other things like Mj can be use for better things, but it is because of the abuse and mis-use of these things that makes it frown upon. some people use it because of medical needs, alright np, but someone going. "ahmahgawd it is used for medical uses, it needs to be legal, yet I dont want it for medical uses but rather fly the rainbow with nyan-cat" is just... dumb :/

Not really illegal because of abuse, if that were the case, alcohol would still be illegal. I mean....how many times have people died when alocohol was being used; much less abused?

And the idea of using a substance for recreation isnt a foreign concepts. Hookahs, alocohol and even the occasional encent. Even if we dont consider the medical implications its still absurd that its illegal.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-09-16 10:22:36
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Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: »

I am 26 with a sweet job and no kids. Damned if I dont toke up every now and again. Cause I know when I settle down, there can be no more bluntz and beers on back to back weekends. Enjoying while I can. lol

Enjoy it, because holy hell it goes by fast. You'll blink and all of a sudden be in your 30's with a family, and just realized you haven't partied with your friends in months. Life is crazy like that.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-09-16 10:24:45
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I didnt say Illegal, meant more from a social point of view.
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-09-16 10:25:04
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Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Personally I find stoned people to be very annoying to have around. Kinda random thought.

I find that there are annoying smokers and smokers that are really cool to hang out with. It varies per person.

Usually it's newbies. The age group has a lot to do with it too. New smokers have to blab on and on about how high they are. Experienced smokers might make a funny comment or two, but most of the time you can barely tell they're even high.

People that get high to fit in or look cool are the most annoying. Those who do it because they just enjoy it are most of the time just regular, cool people.
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By Odin.Potpressure 2011-09-16 10:27:58
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Sorry to tell you guys but this topic is a dead end as many have said. It will go both ways all day. While some of you think it is a good and does nothing bad to you, you are wrong. Smoking anything will always pose some kinda threat to your health. Memory loss (Short or long term)? Sorry, I think that must be person to person. Really, all I've read here about your personal experiences and from friends that had used it are silly. And it's people like that who give pot a bad image. Like people that can't hold there liquor. It effects people very differently. It has a lot of good uses for medical purposes and when looked at as a recreational drug has less harmful effects than stuff we see in our house since we are kids and continue to do with our own children. Things like alcohol which are kept in the fridge for all to see, and kids go in there looking for food all the time. By it being in there you show them it's ok. Cigarettes which are smoked out in the open and bystanders having to inhale that 2nd hand smoke. So if you are gonna hate weed or have anything to say about it, maybe you should look at all the other stuff first and compare them to it. Also the trend of smoking weed is starting to pass slowly. With shops opening for medical marijuan in many states, people that shy away from it because they don't want to smoke it have been eating it. People have been making everything with it from lollipops and microwaveable popcorn to drinks and oils for cooking. And eating it is much more healthy than smoking it.
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By Ragnarok.Yathatguy 2011-09-16 10:28:57
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Mesic said: »
first there is no correlation to lung cancer, if anything its been shown to help lung cancer.

Flion was right. You're going to spew complete nonsense in defense of your addiction. You sir, are a *** idiot.

LOL The cure for cancer is pot. You heard it here first!

And we come to the first adverse reaction to long term pot use...retardation.
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By Bismarck.Vraelia 2011-09-16 10:30:47
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Personally I find stoned people to be very annoying to have around.

Kinda random thought.

I totally agree. Annoying as hell. Lol
But, they do make good listeners, I suppose. o.o
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By Cerberus.Rayik 2011-09-16 10:38:14
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Bismarck.Vraelia said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Personally I find stoned people to be very annoying to have around.

Kinda random thought.

I totally agree. Annoying as hell. Lol
But, they do make good listeners, I suppose. o.o

Same goes for any group of people. You're going to have annoying ones. For me it's usually loud drunks that get on my nerves.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-09-16 12:47:59
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Cerberus.Rayik said: »
Bismarck.Pawnskipper said: »
I am 26 with a sweet job and no kids. Damned if I dont toke up every now and again. Cause I know when I settle down, there can be no more bluntz and beers on back to back weekends. Enjoying while I can. lol
Enjoy it, because holy hell it goes by fast. You'll blink and all of a sudden be in your 30's with a family, and just realized you haven't partied with your friends in months. Life is crazy like that.


You just scared the living crap out of me!!! No friends for months???!!! lol. Nah, really....im sure its for the better. Im getting to the point where I am finally starting to slow down. Im looking forward to a family of my own.
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By Artemicion 2011-09-16 12:52:39
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Bear in mind folks that though substance will have a generalized effect on the body, the way people react to these substances will vary person to person and thus are quite subjective.

So many blanket statements here it makes me facepalm :/
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By Quetzalcoatl.Acropora 2011-09-16 13:13:30
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In May here, a man was driving wildly down our main street in town, cops chasing him, he was swerving all over the road. He blew through an intersection, knocked down a telephone pole, ran over an 18 year old boy, killing him, and then into a building where he went through the walls and into offices with many people in them. The ONLY substance found in his system, was pot. If it makes you out of control enough to kill people and turn into a maniac because you want to be "high", then it should obviously be illegal. Enough said.
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By Artemicion 2011-09-16 13:16:05
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Quetzalcoatl.Acropora said: »
In May here, a man was driving wildly down our main street in town, cops chasing him, he was swerving all over the road. He blew through an intersection, knocked down a telephone pole, ran over an 18 year old boy, killing him, and then into a building where he went through the walls and into offices with many people in them. The ONLY substance found in his system, was pot. If it makes you out of control enough to kill people and turn into a maniac because you want to be "high", then it should obviously be illegal. Enough said.

I hope to God you're trolling.

But it's funny you say that cause not that long ago they found this guy that cured AIDS and resolved world hunger and single handedly ended the war in the middle east and resolved our oil and energy crisis along with unemployment, and the only substance they found in his body was pot.
If such a substance can make you perform miraculous feats, then it should obviously be legal.

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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-09-16 13:25:33
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Quetzalcoatl.Acropora said: »
In May here, a man was driving wildly down our main street in town, cops chasing him, he was swerving all over the road. He blew through an intersection, knocked down a telephone pole, ran over an 18 year old boy, killing him, and then into a building where he went through the walls and into offices with many people in them. The ONLY substance found in his system, was pot. If it makes you out of control enough to kill people and turn into a maniac because you want to be "high", then it should obviously be illegal. Enough said.


What?

I see your logic, but what if that man had been on perscription drug. Or better yet, alcohol. Cause that happens just about everyday on the "fire water" and the pillz. Why are you not all for making those illegal?
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By Bahamut.Ilvex 2011-09-16 13:25:35
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Quetzalcoatl.Acropora said: »
In May here, a man was driving wildly down our main street in town, cops chasing him, he was swerving all over the road. He blew through an intersection, knocked down a telephone pole, ran over an 18 year old boy, killing him, and then into a building where he went through the walls and into offices with many people in them. The ONLY substance found in his system, was pot. If it makes you out of control enough to kill people and turn into a maniac because you want to be "high", then it should obviously be illegal. Enough said.


And then after testing showed he was on PCP, BUT that was in a tiny article on page 7 two weeks later....
 
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-09-16 13:52:11
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Drugs are bad.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-09-16 13:55:06
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
From my point of view, pot should not be legal unless if it's for medical purposes. The only reason why alcohol and cigarettes are legal is because it's a big part of the economy and thousands of people would lose their jobs. It should be illegal. Selling chloroform should be legal, it helps me sleep.


You do know that if the stuff is sold as a recreation drug, it would become a very lucrative business (much like cigs) and create more jobs and will be very taxable. As well as cutting down some of the litigations and enforcment costs which burden a good portion of our tax dollars.

Sounds like you dont like people altering their OWN minds responsibly. Unfortunatley current lawmakers share your lust for trying to control what I do in my free time responsibly. I feel like I have to say responsibly alot bc some people think we all do stupid/hurtful/inconsiderate things when we are high.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-09-16 13:57:04
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Drugs are bad mmmkay?.

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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-09-16 13:58:12
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Drugs are bad.

Even asprin and penicillin?

And its not a drug, its an herb that has great mind altering substance in it. :]
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-09-16 14:06:47
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Fenrir.Enternius said: »
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of a smear-campaign in the 1980s (I believe) where hemp was starting to become a substitute for cloth and wood and some wood guy made it illegal to use on the grounds that it's a drug at all.

Yeah I get all my facts from family guy too....
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By Artemicion 2011-09-16 14:12:37
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Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Fenrir.Enternius said: »
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of a smear-campaign in the 1980s (I believe) where hemp was starting to become a substitute for cloth and wood and some wood guy made it illegal to use on the grounds that it's a drug at all.

Yeah I get all my facts from family guy too....

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-09-16 14:18:28
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Artemicion said: »
Carbuncle.Lynxblade said: »
Fenrir.Enternius said: »
The only reason marijuana is illegal is because of a smear-campaign in the 1980s (I believe) where hemp was starting to become a substitute for cloth and wood and some wood guy made it illegal to use on the grounds that it's a drug at all.

Yeah I get all my facts from family guy too....

You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?

Ever since that stupid *** episode of family guy came out this has been the argument many potheads have been using....its getting old.
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