Survey POL

I would like to see the PS2 fall off and an official release for PS3. If that happens maybe the PS3 controller keyboard I bought will work so my wife will stop complaining about using regular USB/wireless keyboards. lol But seriously, I think the time to change over is now. I played on PS@ until PS3 came out. Around that time my PS2 junked out and the PS3 has been working fine, better on wired connection as always. It'll be nice as I'm sure it'll run smoother anyways, in my opinion.

New expansion to the far east, new jobs geomancer, time mage and chemist and Morpher

New Job: Pokemon Master

2hr: I Choose You, Eevee!

I'd like to see Chemist. I had a few ideas as to how they could work.

-Gun would be the primary weapon
-They'd get temp items refilled every [insert time here] (think strats)
-The temp items would be used to heal or hurt, buff or debuff
-You could mix items with a JA
-Every certain level you'd get a trait which would allow you to mix more items at once
-Every certain level you'd get a trait which would increase the amount of temp items you'd get, and what temp items you get
-robes for armour

Anyone got any hard numbers (or speculation) on the production costs of the first three scenario add-ons, and if it was a profitable venture?

I wouldn't mind more of those as a substitute for an expansion at all, assuming these would be sorta good this time.

More speculation crap:

If they make more add-ons, I would prefer them being similar to abyssea; $10 smaller pieces of a larger story. Far East, Southern Continent, Northern Continent... all welcome, but Far East would be the most interesting.

Gha Naboh Matriarchate or GTFO! >:(

8 GB partition for FFXI's files, 4.1 GB of which is actually used. I tested by copying the files from the partition to a USB flash drive with uLaunchELF. Compressed into RAR files, the PS2 data comes to under 2 GB.

http://www.mediafire.com/?rzy39tvphphbr

There's the DAT files up to the addition of the last Abyssea release. They will fix an install that says there is not enough free space.

One possible solution, shown by how POL Viewer and FFXI have their own partitions, yet still can access data from each other, would be to make each expansion use its own partition, and then each could have an 8 GB size limit, or make updates download to a seperate partition. They still have to compete for space with Nobunaga's Ambitition Online (a PS2-only MMORPG from KOEI), since that game is still running and updating.

By far, the 32 MB RAM limitation on PS2 is what is holding back FFXI features.

Another thing that got me quite curious, but that i sadly can t check( as i am not fluent in squiggle speak) is what are our japanese overlord saying about this survey on the official forums?

Since Flionheart d his chemist idea I Thot I'd post a few ideas i had for geomancer. You'd have an Invoke JA that whould cast a random spell based on weather(sch spells won't affect this and zone) and you'd learn spells automatically as well like smn BPs every few levels. Weapons whould be daggers (ele staffs won't work for Geo magic :p) and whould gain an auto enspell based on the weather thru a job trait that gains potency thru diff tiers as you level. 2 hour whould channel all your Hp and mp into a single powerful Geo spell (ultima for the hell of it for now since I can't think of any) leaving the player with 1 Hp and no mp with a tem 90sec weakness. I even drew a mithra in prototype AF armor but can't get th scanner to work -,- AF weapon whould be a dagger called geomancers bell.

Tianjing is a Google translation of Tenshodo. I'm not going to translate the entire dialogue, but it just ends with you being asked to come back once you've built up merit points.

Stop being a ***, you don't pull it off well.

Edited post to appease the gods.

If they are thinking of dropping ps2 I think they are going to do it no matter what the poll comes back as. They MUST know who logs on what client. They might just want to be politically correct by asking us to make it look better, as if they are considering us in the decision.

I think if they do drop ps2 support, it's not just because of what current players play on, it's more-so for new future players. How many new kids or first timers nowadays are going to have a damn ps2? It's going to get less and less. So why support ps2 in the future if no new players will be using it?

Hopes and dreams crushed, man. At least it isn't "MOOGLES DID I-", oh wait.

also wat at that name translation



Literal translation of Tianjing to Tenshodo, or is it the result of wacky localization, like Jade to Abyssite?

WHAT ELSE ARE THEY HIDING FROM US. WE'VE BEEN LIVING A LIFE OF LIES.

I prefer the PS2 because I don't have to deal with drivers, compatability problems, various malware, and other things I have to handle on Windows that can make my system crash or run weird. Game consoles are just simpler to deal with. I work as a computer repair technician, and when I have free time to play games, I'd rather not be doing that just to get a game working. WotG made my computer run FFXI at less than 10 FPS much of the time, and it ran at 30 before that expansion. SE's only support was to tell me to use a graphics driver from 4 years before that date. I couldn't find many replacement AGP cards at the time, and my current one was working for everything else.

When I got FFXI, I was running a 1999 iMac to read forums and do email. I still have a running G4 tower for similar. Yes, I have a modern Windows PC I built at the start of the year, but it seems like an ordeal every time I want to get another game up and running on it. When I buy a console game, I know it's going to work on my console. I don't have a 360 or PS3 because my console backlog is already so large I can't finish it all, and I'm not very happy with how the companies are currently behaving, and the firmware updates consoles are getting now making features come and go. Consoles are more turning into the PC-type of machine that has maintenance troubles I don't want to deal with with gaming.

You are a little catty in your posts honestly.

Have you tried using Chrome or Google Translate to browse those forums?

it would be awesome if we got an area based on chinese architecture (like the emperial palaces of china and such)....would make a opening for Morpher too...seeing as how in Chinese/Far Eastern(persian/sumarian) mythology there where people that could transform into semi-animal like creatures (mostly avatars of the gods...but you know...its possible). would be nice...and then it would give a nice link to blue magics like how white and black magic have. just a thought.

Tenshodo literally "天晶堂" or tiānjīngtáng in Chinese. In Japanese it's pronounced "tenshōdō", and both translate (roughly) to "Heavenly crystal hall".

The Chinese palace you referenced is "天津" or "tiānjīn", literally "Heavenly capital", but it was a really good guess (it's not as if I knew the difference until a thorough Google search, either!). I sort of wonder if it was the Japanese translators who derped. :o

Woah, that's cool, makes sense then. Guess they were going for irony then cuz'... the Tenshodo base sux. That, or another case of "let's use this name because it sounds cool" like everything else in FF.

I started with a PS2 because we only had dial-up. I never ran into lag issues, and even beseiged didn't give me problems. If we hadn't of changed to cable internet, I would still be playing on PS2. (it would be too much a pain in the *** to run an ethernet cable to keep using it currently)

Would be funny if at the end of this survey SE is like:

" hmm 70% PS2 users and 30% PC users "
" ok lets drop PC support! "

i would /wrists everywhere....cause my PS2 has a passcode on it that i dont remember setting...and my ex-friend SWEARS he didnt set it...so my PS2 is just sitting there bieng all useless :/

You might be reading a bit too much into this. The Japanese for the referenced tiānjīn would be tenshin, on top of the fact I highly doubt the developers wanted to allude to a specific, real place.

What's more likely (and this has also taken me quite a bit of research), is that tenshō derives from the name of The Crystal Era (天晶暦/tenshōreki). I'm going to guess, as the intro movie states "everything began with the crystal", that crystals in Vana'diel would not be suishō but rather tenshō to reflect their celestial origin. Thus Tenshodo would simply be "Crystal Hall" (still roughly, as I wouldn't begin to know how to properly translate -dō, and evidently neither did the official translators).

In his/her first post where he/she's not insulting someone, Kongming may be right!

This all could also have something to do with if anyone would bother using FFXI on the PlayStation Vita, since they had mentioned it.

and the western continent is /foreveralone

well, you know how to work ctrl-c ctrl-v in any case

it doesn't really matter if the motivations for the unchanging partition size are political or whatever your personal conspiracy theories are

what matters is it's controlled by sony and they have zero motivation to go back and fix something for a decadish old game when there's no profit in it for them

the fact is, the partition size is going to remain static for the foreseeable future, whether it's political or not

which is probably why sony seems to be considering dropping the ps2 as more viable than working a partition change

It's not about Copy&Paste as I obviously know what I am talking about.
I am the person who modified the source code for the PS2 homebrewn (micro Launch Elf) and compiled the edited version which is used to access SONY password locked partitions. (official game products with DNAS protection)

Without such modifications it would otherwise be impossible to access the FFXI and PlayOnline partitions, view, extract, copy files from it or even attempt to resize the partitions.

I'm not implying you're wrong or anything but I just wanted to prove that the "OMG PS2 is the POISON THAT RUINS MAH FFXI" is a moot point and the REAL PROBLEM here is (Or was, I'm not sure. But I can tell that SE seems to be trying harder now...) the attitude Square-Enix has towards reworking or optimizing FFXI.

All they have done all these years is pile new code on top of old code, without really caring about cleaning their source code, removing old routines or optimizing their file handling stuff which result on poor performance for the client on all platforms the game runs into. The game program has became a sort of snow ball... The PS2 had a SOLID framerate back in 2003 which has gone down to less than 25FPS since CoP released. X360 also seems affected. (aditionally X360 suffers of horrible video tearing problem due to wrong settings on video refresh -_-;)

The problem (or lack of) is that because the PC is upgradeable, it's less likely you're going to be affected by the FFXI problem with code bloat.

Blaming it out on the PS2 was sort of a smoke screen to save them the hassle of dumping real work on fixing the deeper problems in the FFXI game client program.

Finally, the outcome of this goes down to how many people is using PS2/PS3 to play FFXI and all we can do is sit and watch.

Now, I can only agree that if SONY ever wanted to stop the PS2 SE would have no option but announce that the PS2 would be dropped. Because SONY still offers the DNAS authentication server and still allow for new installs of the game, obviously the partition can, be resized.

Now we're back to the politics thing ... ;)