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 Pandemonium.Treppe
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By Pandemonium.Treppe 2009-04-14 14:07:52
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I friend telling me today that she heard from someone else that the nerf where RNG attack was based on distance from mob was gone. Can anyone confirm the rumor for me please.
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-04-14 14:09:59
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It's false. The "Nerf" is still there.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-14 14:11:24
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your friend is stupid...I'm sorry.
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By Pandemonium.Treppe 2009-04-14 14:11:47
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Wooooodum said:
It's false. The "Nerf" is still there.


Thanks cause I would think that would be huge and everyone would clearly see it in a version update on SE website
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-04-14 14:14:01
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Ludoggy said:
your friend is stupid...I'm sorry.


lol <3
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By Pandemonium.Treppe 2009-04-14 14:18:55
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Ludoggy said:
your friend is stupid...I'm sorry.


>_< god I hope she doesn't read this.
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By Bahamut.Revision 2009-04-14 14:25:07
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Treppe said:
Ludoggy said:
your friend is stupid...I'm sorry.


>_< god I hope she doesn't read this.


She can read? :P
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By Odin.Gaea 2009-04-14 20:04:33
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OK, I think I can see how this mistake could have been made.

The Version Update broke the Automaton Ranger and Blue Mage Ranged spells. Someone even said it broke blue mage's non ranged piercing spells, so it could just have been related to piercing damage for Blue Mage and Automatons.

Either way, it was patched, meaning "ranged" was fixed or unnerfed.

But this didn't apply to rangers or another job using bow, xbow, gun, shurikens, darts, and whatnot.

Because of the language used to describe the nerf and unnerf, I can see this as an honest mistake.

However:
Ludoggy said:
your friend is stupid...I'm sorry.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-14 20:28:38
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w00t score another one for Pandy.... Server change <Can i have it?>
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By Remora.Kindle 2009-04-14 21:49:46
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Idk i was at 10' did 157 Per hit
15' same
1' still 157 but this was only for one bird pt was weird...

Next pt i did dmg was back to normal
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By Bahamut.Etrayis 2009-04-14 21:55:00
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Kajidourden said:
w00t score another one for Pandy.... Server change <Can i have it?>

It's because we sent our n00bs your way! Mwahahahaha!
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By Phoenix.Nerji 2009-04-30 08:34:36
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Kindle said:
Idk i was at 10' did 157 Per hit
15' same
1' still 157 but this was only for one bird pt was weird...

Next pt i did dmg was back to normal


you were probably hitting the dmg cap
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-04-30 08:42:36
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rng nerf is a myth
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-30 08:56:45
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Dasva said:
rng nerf is a myth

mhm.
I'm still doing 10k a ws, whats your guys prob?
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-04-30 09:01:14
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Rowland said:
Ludoggy said:
Dasva said:
rng nerf is a myth

mhm.
I'm still doing 10k a ws, whats your guys prob?

Lies. Which ws? You don't even have sidewinder yet!

Wasp Sting you noob!
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By Odin.Karusan 2009-04-30 09:15:28
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The RNG story is a long one. Basically though, RNG right now is in an awesome place and right where it should be. Velocity Shot was the final addition that perfected the changes that were made in the past. The comment your friend made was probably in relation to Sharpshot which does remove the distance modifier on accuracy. Double check that though.

If the supposed nerf is stopping you from leveling RNG then you're missing out on a really fun job for no reason.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-30 09:42:57
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Nerji said:
Kindle said:
Idk i was at 10' did 157 Per hit
15' same
1' still 157 but this was only for one bird pt was weird...

Next pt i did dmg was back to normal


you were probably hitting the dmg cap


This happens all the time to me on RNG, its especially weird when (for example last night) im level synced to 55, as my sidewinder ALWAYS does 800 flat. Mind you this is with no food (*** food on non merit birds) and no PPA (due to the sync).
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-04-30 09:53:03
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Kajidourden said:
Nerji said:
Kindle said:
Idk i was at 10' did 157 Per hit
15' same
1' still 157 but this was only for one bird pt was weird...

Next pt i did dmg was back to normal


you were probably hitting the dmg cap


This happens all the time to me on RNG, its especially weird when (for example last night) im level synced to 55, as my sidewinder ALWAYS does 800 flat. Mind you this is with no food (*** food on non merit birds) and no PPA (due to the sync).

My sidewinders only did 750 last night ; ; But then again I'm not swapping out any of my r.acc gear for +str gear when no bard in the party either =P I usually stand about 12.7~ from the mob to get max damage
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-30 10:02:42
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Hypnotizd said:
Kajidourden said:
Nerji said:
Kindle said:
Idk i was at 10' did 157 Per hit
15' same
1' still 157 but this was only for one bird pt was weird...

Next pt i did dmg was back to normal


you were probably hitting the dmg cap


This happens all the time to me on RNG, its especially weird when (for example last night) im level synced to 55, as my sidewinder ALWAYS does 800 flat. Mind you this is with no food (*** food on non merit birds) and no PPA (due to the sync).

My sidewinders only did 750 last night ; ; But then again I'm not swapping out any of my r.acc gear for +str gear when no bard in the party either =P I usually stand about 12.7~ from the mob to get max damage


I was swopping in AGI gear, as i cant afford a good STR swap build atm. Even then its only a drone earring and an rk belt +1 since i keep the genin equipped whilst tping along with a vision earring. No brd or anything here either, i just found ti weird how no matter what i did couldnt go over 800, wouldnt really want to tbh, i have to sit on my tp every once and a while as it is. Wouldn't wanna gimp myself by sitting on tp like someone /war inevitably has to >.<
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By Bahamut.Atrithk 2009-04-30 10:07:31
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Etrayis said:
Kajidourden said:
w00t score another one for Pandy.... Server change <Can i have it?>

It's because we sent our n00bs your way! Mwahahahaha!

Then why are you sitll here?
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By Odin.Karusan 2009-04-30 10:12:55
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Some of you guys are 67RNG, try give Obow a shot, it's actually quite interesting to see the damage output it can produce. Must have for solo'ing.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-30 10:13:38
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Karusan said:
Some of you guys are 67RNG, try give Obow a shot, it's actually quite interesting to see the damage output it can produce. Must have for solo'ing.


Who solo's on RNG....?
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-04-30 10:17:01
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Kajidourden said:
Karusan said:
Some of you guys are 67RNG, try give Obow a shot, it's actually quite interesting to see the damage output it can produce. Must have for solo'ing.


Who solo's on RNG....?

I solo on any job I can while lfp. FoV or not, anything to get me to 75 quicker. I have people in my LS who cry about not getting invites and it taking so long for them to get 75. They sit in Whitegate and QQ
about not getting a party so I tell them to stfu and go do FoV or Campaign.
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By Odin.Karusan 2009-04-30 10:17:49
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People that aren't in a party obviously.

I don't mean exp, I mean doing things as a RNG by yourself, that thing where you aren't with other people.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-30 10:25:48
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Obow
DMG: 54 Delay: 432 Ranged Attack +18
Lv. 67 RNG

Ebow
DMG: 71 Delay: 490 STR +3 AGI +3
Ranged Accuracy +2 Ranged Attack +23
Lv. 55 RNG

Can be used 12 levels earlier, and has a sizeable advantage. Obow is free though, and the best thing you can use (as mentioned before) for soloing with stat bolts. Machine is cool for spammage, but when the amount you drain with bloody bolts is directly proportional to the amount of damage you do it really shines. Wiki says bloodys have an int mod to em, but it seems mainly to be based on the damage the shot does (at least in my experience).
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-30 10:29:33
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Dasva said:
Kajidourden said:
Karusan said:
Some of you guys are 67RNG, try give Obow a shot, it's actually quite interesting to see the damage output it can produce. Must have for solo'ing.


Who solo's on RNG....?

I knew a super pimp rng that solo most god pop nms and a couple of gods. Granted this dude spent like 3 years after getting to 75 just making his rng better but it can be done. Also i see rngs soloing qirins all the time


Hmm, first ive heard of it, now i have even MOAR motivation to level mine XD
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-30 10:32:19
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Dasva said:
Kajidourden said:
Obow
DMG: 54 Delay: 432 Ranged Attack +18
Lv. 67 RNG

Ebow
DMG: 71 Delay: 490 STR +3 AGI +3
Ranged Accuracy +2 Ranged Attack +23
Lv. 55 RNG

Can be used 12 levels earlier, and has a sizeable advantage. Obow is free though, and the best thing you can use (as mentioned before) for soloing with stat bolts. Machine is cool for spammage, but when the amount you drain with bloody bolts is directly proportional to the amount of damage you do it really shines. Wiki says bloodys have an int mod to em, but it seems mainly to be based on the damage the shot does (at least in my experience).


Takes a bit of int to make a huge difference otherwise itd be too good. Roughly from my thf id say a good +5 or more int just to get 1 more drain. 1 good thing about being a taru i naturally drain just a little bit more :)


Yump, one day ill camp obow, one day :P
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-04-30 10:34:28
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Kajidourden said:
Yump, one day ill camp obow, one day :P

I have an O-Bow already, RNG is 18. Killed NM with 2 others farming for a WHM test and I power lot it. Gonna go camp shadow in Fei'Yin. If I can get V-Bow then I'll level RNG.
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By Pandemonium.Kajidourden 2009-04-30 10:36:05
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Excesspain said:
Kajidourden said:
Yump, one day ill camp obow, one day :P

I have an O-Bow already, RNG is 18. Killed NM with 2 others farming for a WHM test and I power lot it. Gonna go camp shadow in Fei'Yin. If i can get V-Bow then I'll level RNG.


*** THAT NM

Yeah you can tell i REALLY dont like Eastern shadow, 16hr window and all i would have to kill it with is BRD.... yeah no way in hell i was getting that lmao. Hard enough having the patience to camp it, let alone find people to basically kill it for me >.>
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