
A New Alternative To FFXI? |
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A new alternative to FFXI?
Having played Aion, I have to say....it was beyond grindy. At least FFXI made you feel accomplished as you struggled for a level up. With Aion each level was a substantial pain in the arse to earn, and once you had it, it felt hollow. And yes I've played since US release of XI, RDM was my first to 75 and it took months of casual play.
The world was gorgeous, wings are amazing, but limiting where we could fly was horrible. Not to mention my experiences with the mouth-breathers that play this game were less than amiable. All in all I was more than happy to quit, as shiny as it is the game just isn't there. On another note, I've been playing STO(Star Trek Online) the last few days and I'm already starting to feel the burden of grind crushing my shoulders. The game play itself is actually rather fun, the missions are simply but its very satisfying when you score a direct hit on a Bird of Prey with a torpedo, even sweeter when the ship blows up a few seconds after. Just not sure how long I'll be able to stand the horrendously slow leveling system. Carbuncle.Ceolwulf said: Carbuncle.Flionheart said: /sigh Really? I suggest you go read up on GW's development. NCsoft didn't assist with anything, hence it being the only good game that NCsoft has published. Most of GW had been developed before NCsoft were even the publishers as Arenanet are an old offshoot from Blizzard. (Called triforge at the time) Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Also: "On September 10, 2008, NCsoft announced that all their North American and European subsidiaries, including ArenaNet, were to be governed by a new division named NC West (a tentative name), headquartered in Seattle, Washington. ArenaNet will no longer report directly to NCsoft Korea." Hence the game having no Korean tropes. Tropes that are apparent in every Korean MMO. Don't imply I hate a country because they can't develop good games. This isn't so much, "Korea makes bad games," as it is, "The only games I want to acknowledge as coming from Korea are, in my opinion, bad games," which doesn't speak much about Korea but speaks loads about you. I'm pretty sure I said all MMOs being developed by Korea were bad games, not that all games from Korea were bad. Strawman gooooooooo. Guild Wars has always been developed and marketed as a western game. NCsoft had little to no input in the development of the game. This MMO looks like it'll be good. I think it's a Korean MMO though so who knows.
Leviathan.Niniann said: This MMO looks like it'll be good. I think it's a Korean MMO though so who knows. Nini just come and play Star wars with me next year :) I won't touch your lightsaber I swear! Ninian probably breaks lightsabers...
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Ninian probably breaks lightsabers... sounds like using the force the right way if you ask me Carbuncle.Flionheart said: I'm pretty sure I said all MMOs being developed by Korea were bad games, not that all games from Korea were bad. Strawman gooooooooo. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Guild Wars has always been developed and marketed as a western game. NCsoft had little to no input in the development of the game. You seem to be confusing "developer" with "person or group who handles every aspect of the game". While this is true for smaller games, in the case of major ones like Guild Wars or Aion, their role is smaller. Carbuncle.Ceolwulf said: Carbuncle.Flionheart said: I'm pretty sure I said all MMOs being developed by Korea were bad games, not that all games from Korea were bad. Strawman gooooooooo. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Guild Wars has always been developed and marketed as a western game. NCsoft had little to no input in the development of the game. You seem to be confusing "developer" with "person or group who handles every aspect of the game". While this is true for smaller games, in the case of major ones like Guild Wars or Aion, their role is smaller. Games As in plural. If you don't want what you said misconstrued then be concise. I suggest you read up on the development of Guild Wars and how much input NCsoft had. (Protip: Little to none) Hence Guild Wars not sharing the common tropes apparent in most Korean MMOs. Bahamut.Raenryong said: Ninian probably breaks lightsabers... I do :< Pandemonium.Ironguy said: sounds like using the force the right way if you ask me Damn straight~ :3 Welp that wasn't a no, I'll see you on SWTOR w/e it comes out miss!
I don't think Niniann will ever live down the d*** breaking/busting confession lol.. Peeps just won't let that one go lol
She seems to be living it up if you ask me lol.
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Games As in plural. If you don't want what you said misconstrued then be concise. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: I suggest you read up on the development of Guild Wars and how much input NCsoft had. (Protip: Little to none) Hence Guild Wars not sharing the common tropes apparent in most Korean MMOs. Ifrit.Eikechi said: I don't think Niniann will ever live down the d*** breaking/busting confession lol.. Peeps just won't let that one go lol I'm totally fine with men fearing me~ Carbuncle.Ceolwulf said: Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Games As in plural. If you don't want what you said misconstrued then be concise. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: I suggest you read up on the development of Guild Wars and how much input NCsoft had. (Protip: Little to none) Hence Guild Wars not sharing the common tropes apparent in most Korean MMOs. Be more concise. If you say 'Games' all games are implied, not one specific genre. And it was also implied by previous posts you've made with the silly assumption that I have something against a country due to the subpar MMO's they develop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_Wars#Development The engine was developed completely by Anet. Ncsoft ported said engine to other games licensed by them. Hence it not having Korean tropes. It doesn't instill fear in me! :P
Oh and exactly what evidence have you provided that NCsoft had significant input into the creative development of Guild Wars?
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Be more concise. If you say 'Games' all games are implied, not one specific genre. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: And it was also implied by previous posts you've made with the silly assumption that I have something against a country due to the subpar MMO's they develop. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Carbuncle.Flionheart said: The engine was developed completely by Anet. Ncsoft ported said engine to other games licensed by them. Hence it not having Korean tropes. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Oh and exactly what evidence have you provided that NCsoft had significant input into the creative development of Guild Wars? Carbuncle.Ceolwulf said: Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Be more concise. If you say 'Games' all games are implied, not one specific genre. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: And it was also implied by previous posts you've made with the silly assumption that I have something against a country due to the subpar MMO's they develop. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Carbuncle.Flionheart said: The engine was developed completely by Anet. Ncsoft ported said engine to other games licensed by them. Hence it not having Korean tropes. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Oh and exactly what evidence have you provided that NCsoft had significant input into the creative development of Guild Wars? So no proof that they had significant input into the creative development of Guild Wars then. You could have just said that instead of frothing over a couple of paragraphs. I'd suggest you google "NCsoft vs Anet" or similar queries. I'm not going to provide you with evidence on the already obvious. Guild Wars is nothing like a Korean MMO, hence the reason it's good and actually interesting. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: So no proof that they had significant input into the creative development of Guild Wars then. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: You could have just said that instead of frothing over a couple of paragraphs. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: I'd suggest you google "NCsoft vs Anet" or similar queries. I'm not going to provide you with evidence on the already obvious. Guild Wars is nothing like a Korean MMO, hence the reason it's good and actually interesting. Guild Wars is more like a Korean MMO than a western MMO, and it's published by a Korean company, so really this is just a case of you being wrong and not wanting to give up. Wrong about what exactly?
I never claimed Guild Wars didn't have a Korean publisher. I never even called Guild wars an MMO (Which it isn't btw) It was developed by a western studio hence it not being ***. And common sense should tell you that with a big IP like Guild Wars, the publisher would have little input into the creative development of the game. Do you think Square Enix had significant input in the new Deus Ex? The entire lore of Guild Wars is western based (bar factions) and the entire gameplay and style of gameplay is western based. Have you even played the game? Saying Guild Wars is more like a Korean MMO is like saying WoW is like a Korean MMO. But please provide your examples (other than f2p mechanics) of why GW is like a Korean MMO. It wasn't even initially supported by micro transactions.
I thought Guild Wars is boring personally. :/
I found Everquest to be a great time sink when I grow bored of XI.. its still going and is releasing its 18th expansion pack in November. (Nope not talking about EQ2) Edit: oh I see other people mentioned EQ too.. then nevermind :/ didn't back read.. Personally looking forward to trying Phantasy Star Online 2.
![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.pso-world.com/ Maybe will be out end of this year hopefully. Luckily one of my RL best friends is on board for launch with me... we will see what happens. Here is the trailer: Make sure to watch that in HD lol. Siren.Clinpachi said: Personally looking forward to trying Phantasy Star Online 2. ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.pso-world.com/ Maybe will be out end of this year hopefully. Luckily one of my RL best friends is on board for launch with me... we will see what happens. Here is the trailer: Make sure to watch that in HD lol. I hope this coming out for consolesPS3/360 too not just for PC x.x Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Wrong about what exactly? I never claimed Guild Wars didn't have a Korean publisher. I never even called Guild wars an MMO (Which it isn't btw) Carbuncle.Flionheart said: It was developed by a western studio hence it not being ***. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: And common sense should tell you that with a big IP like Guild Wars, the publisher would have little input into the creative development of the game. Do you think Square Enix had significant input in the new Deus Ex? Carbuncle.Flionheart said: The entire lore of Guild Wars is western based (bar factions) Carbuncle.Flionheart said: and the entire gameplay and style of gameplay is western based. Have you even played the game? Saying Guild Wars is more like a Korean MMO is like saying WoW is like a Korean MMO. We've been arguing about whether Guild Wars can be a Korean MMO for two pages, and it's getting old, because-- even without Guild Wars in my original list of games-- my point still stands on its own: there are plenty of good Korean MMOs (unless you're just being unfairly bias because of some thing you have against Korean-made games). I hope PSO2 comes out for a console too. First, I hope we actually get it in the West, lol.
Carbuncle.Ceolwulf said: Carbuncle.Flionheart said: Wrong about what exactly? I never claimed Guild Wars didn't have a Korean publisher. I never even called Guild wars an MMO (Which it isn't btw) Carbuncle.Flionheart said: It was developed by a western studio hence it not being ***. Carbuncle.Flionheart said: And common sense should tell you that with a big IP like Guild Wars, the publisher would have little input into the creative development of the game. Do you think Square Enix had significant input in the new Deus Ex? Carbuncle.Flionheart said: The entire lore of Guild Wars is western based (bar factions) Carbuncle.Flionheart said: and the entire gameplay and style of gameplay is western based. Have you even played the game? Saying Guild Wars is more like a Korean MMO is like saying WoW is like a Korean MMO. We've been arguing about whether Guild Wars can be a Korean MMO for two pages, and it's getting old, because-- even without Guild Wars in my original list of games-- my point still stands on its own: there are plenty of good Korean MMOs (unless you're just being unfairly bias because of some thing you have against Korean-made games). I guess you just have a terrible taste in games. And yes GW was fairly big before release due to constant beta tests and the fact that the development team were well known blizzard employees before they jumped ship. And yes, I'm saying that an MMO developed in a western studio has a far lower chance to be shitty. I'm going to still assume you've never played Guild Wars due to you talking out of your ***. The game is basically like Wow. There are plenty of good Korean MMOs in your opinion. Critical acclaim doesn't back you up there brosef. The majority of MMO players are sick of the common tropes apparent in 99% of Korean MMOs. Just because you have a hard on for loli girls with gigantic ***, don't assume the rest of us have. |
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