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Fistule path limitation.
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-12 14:36:45
Then that GM was wrong because people have been doing this FOR YEARS and have not been jailed for it.
If that was the cause, you can go to any gimp group fighting an NM and GMing them for killing a mob to slow and try and pass it off that they are holding it.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-12 14:43:20
kimble, QM the empy builder for a triple fistule kill (if that was possible)... should solve all issues if the others dont care about the AF3+2 items it can drop
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By Fenrir.Ilax 2011-07-12 14:43:40
Odin.Zicdeh said: and then have the audacity to try and sell the Fistule Discharges for 500k a pop, when they're just going to let them hit the floor anyway.
Oh wow, that so horrible... Well ya, i am happy we don't have that kind of *** on fenrir (not yet at least)
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 14:48:41
Sylph.Kimble said: Then that GM was wrong because people have been doing this FOR YEARS and have not been jailed for it.
If that was the cause, you can go to any gimp group fighting an NM and GMing them for killing a mob to slow and try and pass it off that they are holding it.
Wrong.
They sealed their fate by discussing intent to hold it in their chat log. The GM can call Volatile client logs to confirm ***like that.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-12 14:52:47
Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 14:57:41
Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
Fenrir.Demomo
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By Fenrir.Demomo 2011-07-12 15:08:05
Actually if you dot a mob to make it seem like you're not holding it and have idle players capable of dealing damage to it around it, yeah you're getting jailed. Have been jailed for holding things quite a bit, and the example of dia on kv made me laugh. Generally when you are GM'd for holding they start a clock on you, and if you haven't done significant damage in (usually 15 mins) this time, off to the concrete room you go. Also it is amusing to see that GM's are really jailing over holding the leech, but it does make sense, 3 fistules would solve a lot of problems, or making fistule a key pop off say the 3 nms it can currently eat?
Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-07-12 15:14:47
Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
and whiney *** gming you
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-07-12 15:16:58
Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
and whiney *** gming you
This.
Fenrir.Didgist
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2011-07-12 15:18:26
Bahamut.Serj said: Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
and whiney *** gming you
This.
Remora.Dodu
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-12 15:25:12
Anyone bitching about holding any of Fistule's trigger NMs has no grasp of what the rules against holding are supposed to prevent. inb4 but I got somebody GM'd for that one time!
Similarly amusing is the assertion that there's anything immoral or out of the ordinary about selling something that's going to hit the floor if not purchased.
Also inb4 I've never had to deal with any of the above annoyance. Solo'd most of my discharges on BST. Dragging something with shitty pathing that's dragging another thing with shitty pathing into something heavily fought over only to have it snagged when my pet would attack a Pustule and make Fistule go yellow. Had to deal with all of it, doesn't mean I'm in any position to call foul play.
By Brink 2011-07-12 15:30:01
Honestly it sucks but if you time it right you're going to be fine. I got from 5 to 35 before 1 person came and they just needed the KI from him, i know it sucks that there is only one but there are down times where people who do sleep can get fistule items too. The hardest part of Gandiva for me is getting people to do the damn VNMS XD
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 15:37:44
Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
and whiney *** gming you
Stop breaking the ToS, or get over being jailed, only two options :)
By sefalon 2011-07-12 15:39:55
13.5 hrs you can complete fistule based on your math. Try doing glavoid in 13.5 hrs. Maybe if you have full aliances and no competition. I fell cleave and make 3 full sets in about 4 hrs. My server Adze is camped 24/7 along with minho. Realistic time for glavoid be 40hrs ...Fistule. I can solo on bst and only need the nm to be up. For the most part he always is.
I would be thanking SE for making an empy so east obtain. LOW MAN
Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-07-12 15:41:02
Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
and whiney *** gming you
Stop breaking the ToS, or get over being jailed, only two options :)
your tears give me power
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 15:42:22
Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
and whiney *** gming you
Stop breaking the ToS, or get over being jailed, only two options :)
your tears give me power
And jailed holders gave me my 32nd, 46th and 47th Fistule discharge, at least my progress was tangible.
Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-07-12 15:43:24
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-12 15:43:41
The fact that you actually remember what number discharges you got from it, just makes you seem sad, lol.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 15:47:10
It's not all that hard. I just have a good memory.
Fix'd
Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-07-12 15:48:45
Odin.Zicdeh said: It's not all that hard. I just have a good memory.
or youre full of bologna
or you were nerding with the sun of 10,000 rages at the time and its been stained into your essence
either way its not that serious and you are a whining baby
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 15:50:18
Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: It's not all that hard. I just have a good memory.
or youre full of bologna
or you were nerding with the sun of 10,000 rages at the time and its been stained into your essence
either way its not that serious and you are a whining baby
Continue being mad, see if that solves anything, friend.
Sylph.Kimble
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-12 15:52:44
Ps.
Drk isnt as useful as NIN or WAR.
Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-07-12 15:53:21
lol Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: It's not all that hard. I just have a good memory.
or youre full of bologna
or you were nerding with the sun of 10,000 rages at the time and its been stained into your essence
either way its not that serious and you are a whining baby
Continue being mad, see if that solves anything, friend.
you called the gm over a pixel problem brother, I just thought it was funny how cool you were trying to sound
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 15:53:36
Sylph.Kimble said: Ps.
Drk isnt as useful as NIN or WAR.
Phoenix.Fondue said: lol Odin.Zicdeh said: Phoenix.Fondue said: Odin.Zicdeh said: It's not all that hard. I just have a good memory.
or youre full of bologna
or you were nerding with the sun of 10,000 rages at the time and its been stained into your essence
either way its not that serious and you are a whining baby
Continue being mad, see if that solves anything, friend.
you called the gm over a pixel problem brother, I just thought it was funny how cool you were trying to sound
Personally, I think you just got all defensive, because I only meant it as a warning for people not to be idiots and talk about "How awesome is this, we are totally holding this mob for the lulz", and if they are going to do that, to maintain plausible deniability.
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Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-07-12 15:54:29
Sylph.Kimble said: Ps.
Drk isnt as useful as NIN or WAR.
and farsha sucks
what are you doing with your life
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-07-12 15:58:55
Phoenix.Fondue said: Sylph.Kimble said: Ps.
Drk isnt as useful as NIN or WAR.
and farsha sucks
what are you doing with your life
Farsha's great(BST only) outside Abyssea. Sucks hardcore balls inside.
I mostly got it because it looks pretty, and was easy aside from the surprisingly rare "Let's hold bloodguzzler for 20minutes" dude.
Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-07-12 16:01:15
bst sucks balls outside too, grats on soloing cerb for an agol
Leviathan.Snakeslice
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By Leviathan.Snakeslice 2011-07-12 16:01:52
Odin.Zicdeh said: Sylph.Kimble said: Alright, so if you're smart and dont say a word in game, the GM cant take action on you.
If they are dumb enough to say in chat log "im going to hold this NM" thats their own fault for being stupid.
Right. It's all about plausible deniability.
This is when i just pull out clubs and start skilling up on the leech till the fatty spawns
I know SE added 3x ??? for all Empy NM trial except for this one, i can also understand it would be a major problem if they add 3x and all them aggro at same time if you bring 1 mob, but don't you think they could just add up:
Fistule(A) only eat Guimauve
Fistule(B) Only eat Bloodguzzler
Fistule(C) only eat Lentor
As much i found this amusing to hold 3 NM just to get 1x Fistule every 20 min, don't HOLDING NM is from base again ToS, but then people have no choice... Would be nice if SE review this path.
I have to agree fistule don't REQ Ki as other path and make it easy from base, but when it come overcamped is by far another story, you can't get a fistule pop from gold chest =X So the only option is holding all 3 NM (kinda again the ToS) or hold your single Bloodguzzler 20min to 1h long...
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