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Abyssea exp = bad player?
Bahamut.Aeronis
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-06-28 17:20:39
I only came at you because you said you knew what you were doing on your job when you clearly don't lol
Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-06-28 17:20:55
oh ***he busted out the bold and the caps
let's go home guys, it's over
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By Odin.Skeero 2011-06-28 17:21:29
Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-06-28 17:23:06
Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Its just impossible to enjoy exp pt in Abyssea for the gameplay/game mechanics, its just win exp for win exp.
Maybe on next update SE will guive the right to players to choice lv 90 jobs in moghouse and get them from an huge scroll exp paper in delivery box.
I personaly realy miss 6 man exp pt.
no one is stopping you from doing a 6-man party in aby, it's how i got the majority of my xp
Carbuncle.Lolserj
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2011-06-28 17:24:05
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Its just impossible to enjoy exp pt in Abyssea for the gameplay/game mechanics, its just win exp for win exp.
Maybe on next update SE will guive the right to players to choice lv 90 jobs in moghouse and get them from an huge scroll exp paper in delivery box.
I personaly realy miss 6 man exp pt.
no one is stopping you from doing a 6-man party in aby, it's how i got the majority of my xp
2.5 man party
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Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-06-28 17:24:32
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Its just impossible to enjoy exp pt in Abyssea for the gameplay/game mechanics, its just win exp for win exp.
Maybe on next update SE will guive the right to players to choice lv 90 jobs in moghouse and get them from an huge scroll exp paper in delivery box.
I personaly realy miss 6 man exp pt.
no one is stopping you from doing a 6-man party in aby, it's how i got the majority of my xp
2.5 man party
okay that produced a lot too
Bahamut.Gimpness
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By Bahamut.Gimpness 2011-06-28 17:25:39
Wenuden said: Siren.Sehbeh said: Odin.Skeero said: whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, more stuff
stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuff How long were you away from the game? The community has been like this for a while.
this. x2
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Carbuncle.Rasalgethi
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By Carbuncle.Rasalgethi 2011-06-28 17:28:14
Bahamut.Gimpness said: Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Now i hope SE prepare some cool new HNM for lv95 and 99, Voidwatch are not so fun I think...
Voidwatch is fun D: you just have to not suck :x
We have done all the Voidwatch path and get some good items but ill just quote what another guys said on our forum and i agree with it about Voidwatch
Quote: unrewarding, time consuming, lots of walking around, trying to proc ***10 times is no fun at all.[...] about it being challenging, its not. just toss bodies while tank hold ***, or PD zerg and you got it done ~. ya i know im really negative and all but game going back to HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE mode is just killing me.
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-28 17:30:32
Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Bahamut.Gimpness said: Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Now i hope SE prepare some cool new HNM for lv95 and 99, Voidwatch are not so fun I think...
Voidwatch is fun D: you just have to not suck :x
We have done all the Voidwatch path and get some good items but ill just quote what another guys said on our forum and i agree with it about Voidwatch
Quote: unrewarding, time consuming, lots of walking around, trying to proc ***10 times is no fun at all.[...] about it being challenging, its not. just toss bodies while tank hold ***, or PD zerg and you got it done ~. ya i know im really negative and all but game going back to HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE mode is just killing me.
That person sounds dumb.
By Wenuden 2011-06-28 17:31:02
Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Just reply me, can you enjoy exp pt in abyssea for the GAMEPLAY? its fun?
Realy?
I find opening chests pretty relaxing, and far more enjoyable than fighting colibri.
Colibri was already the begening of the ***, but it was better than Abyssea exp pt.
What i would like back in exp pt is a real teamwork, a tank, a healer, and no afk/leecher members etc... and kill ***with skillchain and magic burst faster than spam 100% TP WS like a stupid bot and run to a dominion NPC after each 5 mobs.
Maybe its an utopia but thats what i would like to see
And like I said if you like win exp just for win exp so, Abyssea pt are perfect. Go back to 2004, then. SC/MB hasn't been an accepted good way to kill XP mobs for a long time because it wasn't faster than 100tp WS spam, not because nobody wanted blms.
Quetzalcoatl.Dijana
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dijana 2011-06-28 17:33:35
I miss the old xp pts, and yes I could go back and lvl a job that way, but why. Enjoy it or not whats the point of gimping your lvling rate if you know you can go into aby and get it done much faster. I've leeched a couple jobs, some because I know its not exactly rocket science, others because soloing on that job would be a *** and there just arent the numbers of people doing old style xp pts anymore.
Aby leeching doesnt cause the bad player. Its what the player does afterwards. Are they gonna take the time to skill up, gather the correct gear, read up on and test what their new abilities/spells do? Or just gonna go straight in to an event and do no dmg/miss and have all their spells resisted. Since everything happens in Abyssea these days pretty much, it doesnt really require much skill beyond knowing what the procs are and making sure you have them. I dont like playing with lazy gimp players so I dont do pickup groups. If I have to, the only time I will cringe at an obviously leeched job is if its a tank or healer who obviously doesnt have the skill or knowledge to do what they're meant to. The amount of times I've teamed up with someone to get (their) NMs done faster and been taking hate of nins, mnks etc AS DNC does get ridiculous though.
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By Wenuden 2011-06-28 17:34:23
Oh yeah, forgot to add. I don't need you to do a SC when I can one or two shot a mob consistently on blm.
Bahamut.Gimpness
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By Bahamut.Gimpness 2011-06-28 17:34:57
Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Bahamut.Gimpness said: Carbuncle.Rasalgethi said: Now i hope SE prepare some cool new HNM for lv95 and 99, Voidwatch are not so fun I think...
Voidwatch is fun D: you just have to not suck :x
We have done all the Voidwatch path and get some good items but ill just quote what another guys said on our forum and i agree with it about Voidwatch
Quote: unrewarding, time consuming, lots of walking around, trying to proc ***10 times is no fun at all.[...] about it being challenging, its not. just toss bodies while tank hold ***, or PD zerg and you got it done ~. ya i know im really negative and all but game going back to HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE mode is just killing me.
lol. i don't have 18 people to throw at something. I do things with a group of 6 people at the most (unless i tag along with a shout group or whatever.) we haven't got very far into voidwatch because we're in abyssea most of the time. I'll agree, the gear is really situational and not worth the effort, but we just do it for a break from other things (and cus it's fun... as you've been saying). Try doing something like voidwrought without dieing D: i don't really think you can...
Ramuh.Krizz
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-06-28 17:35:29
Just let this thread die.
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By Wenuden 2011-06-28 17:36:20
There's still discussion going on.
Leviathan.Pimpstix
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By Leviathan.Pimpstix 2011-06-28 19:09:08
My epeen is bigger than yours. (translation) I'm light in the pants.
By bradi 2011-06-29 08:58:06
Ramuh.Austar said: Fenrir.Fearforever said: its all good Seoha, just having a bad day is all lol.
I duo'd Jailer of Faith earlier for my faith torque which was fun.
What's been the most annoying situation for you when a gimped player has screwed it up for you? Probably the entire situation if they managed to screw something up.
that would be loosing a T3 vnm that took me 3 days to farm for another noob to pop a T1 VNM that was in the pt 2 kill us all. she cost us our T3 pop and was removed from the LS
By bradi 2011-06-29 09:03:53
Wenuden said: bradi said: i dont think if you have all of your skillups and proper gear for the lvl you desire going into leech or burn or what ever your preference is would make you gimp. but as long as you're willing to go out and get the skillups and gear you need that you dont have so that way your job wont be gimp. most people get irritated because you have new players going in and leeching the job they probably spent months on without the abyssea zones. but as long as you get the skillups and gear needed i dont see why you would be gimp. unless the person is too lazy to go and get them. Capped skills and good gear do not equal not gimp. Sorry.
it does if they know how to use their job i mean seriously most jobs r really easy to do and are not that hard to figure out
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-06-29 09:04:24
Seems like the noobish thing here is to die to a T3 and T1 at the same time. Also fairly fail to take 3 days to get a T3.
Probably the most annoying thing a gimp has done to me is just be there. I can't tell you how many times I have stood around waiting for a group to finish an NM because they all suck to hard to kill it and proc in a timely fashion.
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-06-29 09:05:52
Double post but... In reguards to the thread, gimps will be gimps, Aby or not. Bad players will be bad Aby or not. You can't fix stupid.
By bradi 2011-06-29 09:19:08
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Seems like the noobish thing here is to die to a T3 and T1 at the same time. Also fairly fail to take 3 days to get a T3.
Probably the most annoying thing a gimp has done to me is just be there. I can't tell you how many times I have stood around waiting for a group to finish an NM because they all suck to hard to kill it and proc in a timely fashion.
ok id like to see you farm a T3 on ur own as a mage (blm or whm) and see how fast u can kill a mob and second we only had 4 ppl there to kill it and would have been fine if it wasnt for that 1 person.
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-06-29 09:37:30
Depending on the zone it would be pretty damn easy as BLM. And I still don't see how a group of even 2 would have trouble with killing the 2.
Sylph.Krsone
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By Sylph.Krsone 2011-06-29 09:43:31
Bad reason to kick a member from a ls for popping a t1 by accident and you subsequently wiping to a t3, if that caused you to wipe in all honesty I rather not be in that shell anyway. I cant think of one hard t3 besides Diab in Grauberg, should one shot a tier one anyway or at least enfeeb it sleep/bind/grav if its causing you problems.
Cerberus.Kaht
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-06-29 09:52:09
bradi said: ok id like to see you farm a T3 on ur own as a mage (blm or whm) and see how fast u can kill a mob
I farmed and killed Ruminator on BLM many times. Is this comment for real?
By bradi 2011-06-29 09:52:30
Sylph.Krsone said: Bad reason to kick a member from a ls for popping a t1 by accident and you subsequently wiping to a t3, if that caused you to wipe in all honesty I rather not be in that shell anyway. I cant think of one hard t3 besides Diab in Grauberg, should one shot a tier one anyway or at least enfeeb it sleep/bind/grav if its causing you problems.
it wasnt just the T3 it was a lot of other stuff before hand. but the loss of a T3 is what was the last straw and it wasnt accidental. we were in miseraux i do believe and when our tank told me to pop it i did but the rest of the pt wasnt there. we got the T1 killed but the thing that looks like a CoP mob the gorger i think ended up killing our tank b 4 everyone else was there and ss blink and phlanax only last for so long. i died a lil b 4 the other 2 got there.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-06-29 09:57:56
Ppl wipe to vnms?
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-06-29 09:59:37
bradi said: Sylph.Krsone said: Bad reason to kick a member from a ls for popping a t1 by accident and you subsequently wiping to a t3, if that caused you to wipe in all honesty I rather not be in that shell anyway. I cant think of one hard t3 besides Diab in Grauberg, should one shot a tier one anyway or at least enfeeb it sleep/bind/grav if its causing you problems.
it wasnt just the T3 it was a lot of other stuff before hand. but the loss of a T3 is what was the last straw and it wasnt accidental. we were in miseraux i do believe and when our tank told me to pop it i did but the rest of the pt wasnt there. we got the T1 killed but the thing that looks like a CoP mob the gorger i think ended up killing our tank b 4 everyone else was there and ss blink and phlanax only last for so long. i died a lil b 4 the other 2 got there.
If you'r a WHM you can easily cure yourself and hold mostly anything for a long time.
If you'r a BLM you can easily hold stuff using manawall and MP meds for quite some time.
Try to remember that next time:p
I am coming up on a month into my return to FFXI. I am still getting used to abyssea and all that it offers players. There is one thing that i do not understand. The thing is: Why do people say that if you lvl a job in abyssea you are bad, gimp, noob, etc...??
I am currently lvling up WHM, and i am doing so by leaching exp off abyssea alliances or my friends farming runs. I try to look from all points of view. Someone might power level themselves almost overnight 30>90. This being said you do not have allot of time to cap your magic/combat skills, thus creating a "bad player".
But what about someone who has played FFXI since release? I will use myself as an example again here: I am lvling WHM in Abyssea. RDM was my first 75 way back when, then BLM, then THF. My magic skills have long been capped and merited. My combat skills have long been capped and merited. If I power level WHM to 90 I will have all my skills leveled up already.
What gives one player the right to lvl a job in abyssea over another player? Nothing IMO. So why all the hate towards anyone who lvls jobs in abyssea?
I hope some of you can shed light on this for me.
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