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 Leviathan.Angelskiss
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2011-06-14 10:54:18
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Would that not be a logical fallacy?
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-14 10:55:36
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Would that not be a logical fallacy?

Nope!
Just a comical quip.
I don't actually know if tall and athletic is Honhenheim's type.

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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2011-06-14 10:56:11
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Is it really comical if no one laughs?
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 10:56:31
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I have nothing against your communication style, just know that it leaves an avenue for people to poke fun. In differentiation, there is teasing. I know full and well this with my opinion of faith. It differs from quite a few people here, and I am the brunt of opposition at times.
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
I'm 6'4" 235, athletic build. I hardly come across as small. Of course we all know what happens when one assumes.

Leviathan.Hohenheim said:

When you assume, it makes an *** out of u and me!

In this case I just think it's out of elanabelle.

I think Hohenheim is hitting on you, Daemun.


I'll take what attention I can get : )
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-14 10:56:37
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?

It could be.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 10:57:07
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?
Is it comical that I (literally) lol'ed to this statement?
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 10:57:36
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?

It could be.
Step one to being a good comedian: know your audience
 
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-14 10:59:50
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?
Rhetoricalquestion.gif?
aka "the pat yourself on the back" questioning tactic.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-14 11:01:22
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
I have nothing against your communication style, just know that it leaves an avenue for people to poke fun. In differentiation, there is teasing.

I'm definitely aware that some users here are "turned off" by my communication style. I'm equally as "turned off" by "no u", "lolwut", "OP is fgt", and "fap fap fap".
Turnabout is fair play, and if one can't take the heat, one should stay out of the kitchen.
Since I've stayed here, clearly I can take the heat. If people want to tease me, have at it, but don't expect me to take it lying down.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-06-14 11:02:17
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
I have nothing against your communication style, just know that it leaves an avenue for people to poke fun. In differentiation, there is teasing. I know full and well this with my opinion of faith. It differs from quite a few people here, and I am the brunt of opposition at times.
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
I'm 6'4" 235, athletic build. I hardly come across as small. Of course we all know what happens when one assumes.

Leviathan.Hohenheim said:

When you assume, it makes an *** out of u and me!

In this case I just think it's out of elanabelle.

I think Hohenheim is hitting on you, Daemun.

I think he/she is jelly that they couldn't get me..........or probably anyone else for that matter.

I'll take what attention I can get : )
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2011-06-14 11:02:45
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?
Rhetoricalquestion.gif?
aka "the pat yourself on the back" questioning tactic.
I find nothing amusing about his inference that just because a gay man agreed with another man, he was hitting on him. Did you?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-14 11:04:06
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?
Rhetoricalquestion.gif?
aka "the pat yourself on the back" questioning tactic.
I find nothing amusing about his inference that just because a gay man agreed with another man, he was hitting on him. Did you?
Hohenheim hits on me all the time.
Why do I see you making verbal war all the time?
:P
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-14 11:07:02
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?

Actually, now that I considered this for a moment longer, it's rather appropriate for this thread, since it's a fine example of a loaded question.

Whether I answered "yes" or "no", I would be admitting that what I said wasn't comical, which was Angelkiss's intent.
The only "defense" against a loaded question is to answer neither "yes" or "no". Hence, I replied "it could be".

Thanks for the example, Angelkiss!
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2011-06-14 11:08:54
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:

Why do I see you making verbal war all the time?
:P
You obviously don't read all I post =/

@ Elana- You are welcome :)
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-06-14 11:09:39
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No one answered me :(
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 11:11:31
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Brane hurtz

Fairy.Spence said:
No one answered me :(
Question was?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-14 11:12:56
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Fairy.Spence said:
No one answered me :(
the question to elana? or?
Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:

Why do I see you making verbal war all the time?
:P
You obviously don't read all I post =/

@ Elana- You are welcome :)
Okay, not all the time.
But it does seem quite often that you are in a combative state.
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2011-06-14 11:15:17
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lol..okay?
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-06-14 11:15:50
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"Have you ever cheated on your girlfriend?" is a loaded question, isn't it? Implying you have a girlfriend?
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 11:16:14
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Fairy.Spence said:
No one answered me :(
the question to elana? or?
Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:

Why do I see you making verbal war all the time?
:P
You obviously don't read all I post =/

@ Elana- You are welcome :)
Okay, not all the time.
But it does seem quite often that you are in a combative state.
Incoming sarcastic, obligatory, sexist remark
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 11:17:25
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Fairy.Spence said:
"Have you ever cheated on your girlfriend?" is a loaded question, isn't it? Implying you have a girlfriend?
Depends on the situation. If it has already been stated that said person has a girlfriend, no. Could it be used as a loaded question on the premise that it infers there is a girlfriend? Yes
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-14 11:18:59
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Is it really comical if no one laughs?
Rhetoricalquestion.gif?
aka "the pat yourself on the back" questioning tactic.
I find nothing amusing about his inference that just because a gay man agreed with another man, he was hitting on him. Did you?

Nah, Angelkiss, take off your bias-shaded glasses.
I quipped because it wasn't until Daemun announced his height/weight and "athletic build" that Hohenheim chirped in to take a (weak) shot at me, by de facto calling me an ***.

Not to make this personal, but (quite a while ago) I had taken sides with Hohenheim in some debate in these forums, when he was on the losing side of the argument, and I tried to help restore some respectability to his side. I wasn't looking for his thanks or admiration; at that point all I knew was he was some dude that had a decent opinion, but was getting lambasted unjustly in the forum here.
Not long after, I was involved in some other debate and Hohenheim wasn't initially involved, but he decided to chime in, directly insulting not only my opinion on whatever topic, but also insulting me in the process.

So much for gratitude, eh?
Anyways, since then, Hohenheim sporadically chirps into threads that I'm involved in, and he typically has nothing interesting, relevant, or nice to say. Up until today, I've basically ignored him. But frankly I'm sick of it, so I made a light-hearted quip at him in this thread. No need to get your panties in a bunch, Angelkiss.

Would you like me to apologize to Hohenheim? Would that make you feel better?
 
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2011-06-14 11:20:22
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And I am the combative one trying to engage in verbal war? lol..

/slides out of the thread

Edit: The comment of the panties being in a bunch is a logical fallacy. You assume I wear panties.

=)
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 11:23:48
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
And I am the combative one trying to engage in verbal war? lol..

/slides out of the thread

Edit: The comment of the panties being in a bunch is a logical fallacy. You assume I wear panties.

=)
Of the last 3-4 women I have dated, I never assume a woman wears panties.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-06-14 11:24:52
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Fairy.Spence said:
"Have you ever cheated on your girlfriend?" is a loaded question, isn't it? Implying you have a girlfriend?


No, it is not a loaded question.
However, it does presume a context where it's been established that the listener has (or had) a girlfriend, yes.

I worded the example that way in comparison to the previous example "Are you still cheating on your girlfriend?", which IS a loaded question.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-14 11:25:54
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
And I am the combative one trying to engage in verbal war? lol..

/slides out of the thread

Edit: The comment of the panties being in a bunch is a logical fallacy. You assume I wear panties.

=)
more of a cultural implication.

Ifrit.Daemun said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Fairy.Spence said:
No one answered me :(
the question to elana? or?
Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:

Why do I see you making verbal war all the time?
:P
You obviously don't read all I post =/

@ Elana- You are welcome :)
Okay, not all the time.
But it does seem quite often that you are in a combative state.
Incoming sarcastic, obligatory, sexist remark
osnap, incoming /ragequit
continuation of informal logical fallacies:

Non Causa Pro Causa:


Correlation does not imply causation esentially I do believe.
Damn it's busy here at work today.
I'll add more on this one later.


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One-Sidedness
Red Herring Fallacy
Special Pleading
Vagueness
Weak Analogy
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-06-14 11:26:34
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Hmm, okay, thanks.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-14 11:27:22
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Fairy.Spence said:
"Have you ever cheated on your girlfriend?" is a loaded question, isn't it? Implying you have a girlfriend?


No, it is not a loaded question.
However, it does presume a context where it's been established that the listener has (or had) a girlfriend, yes.

I worded the example that way in comparison to the previous example "Are you still cheating on your girlfriend?", which IS a loaded question.
One in which is easily defeated if the addressee is on their toes. Of course I would presume most loaded questions are aimed to trap people who aren't
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