The Top 5 DD

Amarant sucked because his story sucked.

Freya found her husband in Cleyra and that's where her story ended. She could have left then, she has no more plot points.

Eiko had a small part explaining the fact that she could summon and once you were out of Esto Gaza she was pointless and had no more plot points.

Quina had no plot points.

Amarant was following Zidane to learn from him, because Zidane though looking weaker managed to defeat him, therefore he was following him to learn about friendship. A shallow plot, but no more shallow than any of the other characters bar Garnet, Zidane and Vivi.

Stop liking what I don't like etc etc.

yo dawg, pld is the bestest dd k?

peace.

No Freya was with the team because she wanted to get revenge against Kuja who started the whole mess. He manipulated Brihanne and the characters knew that. Amarant had no loyalties, freya was friends with everyone, he was a empty character lol

Stop imagining plot points that don't exist. Freya hated Kuja as much as every other character hated Kuja. She was still a character with very little in the terms of character development after her and Beatrix let the others escape in disk 2.

All the characters bar Zidane, Vivi and Garnet were empty.

He has as much plot as Steiner, Freya and more so than Quina. Less so than Eiko granted.

At least Freya and Eiko had a reason to exist till some point. He didn't at the beginning, didn't in the middle, didn't in the end.
Also Steiner is an important character.

I googled this but:


That's Freya talking, her involvement with the group was fighting against Kuja... Amarant had no loss, no reason at all to be there. To "learn from Zidane"? That's a pretty pathetic reason. I guess someone could argue he was just a lost drifter who found friendship with the team and decided to go with them to explore that, but other than that his involvement was pretty weak.

Steiner was following the Princess and vowed to protect her. His story began and ended there.

Amarant joined the party to try and understand why Zidane defeated and spared him. Zidane told him it was friendship and he followed Zidane around to try and learn why he did actually defeat him.

In Ipsens castle Amarant decided to try and go on his own to show that he's better alone, Zidane proved him wrong and rescued him from death, earning his friendship and trust.

The ATB's explain why he had a beef with Zidane in the first place, because Zidane cost him his livelihood in Treno by pinning a robbery on him.

Paine > All other FF characters

prove me wrong.

LolPaine.

Anyway, your points don't convince me Flion. We just disagree.

It wasn't friendship, it was just mercy. How was it friendship when they had just met, the team and him.

Steiner was an important character, yes he was protecting the princess, but he had reasons of his own for going with the group. The reason was Kuja and what he did to Alexandria/Queen and all of that.

He's a drifter, Most Final Fantasies have one.

Freya's story was just as shallow and convoluted as every character bar Zidane, Vivi, Garnet and arguably Eiko.

No disrespect to niniann, but really love how people seem to think that not a single other person seems to know how to play dancer ._.

Been said by others already but a soloing and a DD dnc are different. From what I've seen though, most dnc tend to just sit on their tp in full eva gear, maybe stack one or two steps at a time but never make it to lvl 5, rather than take advantage of all their abilities for wsing and general DD.

Do you not remember Zidane giving him a speech as to why he works in a group? And Amarant countering the point by saying it's better to work alone?

And again you're making up plot points. Steiner never claimed he wanted to kill Kuja out of revenge, he was simply following orders. His major revelation was when he went against Brahne's orders when Vivi, Zidane and Garnet escape. And that was to do with him wrestling with doing the right thing vs following orders.

After Garnet becomes Queen he just follows her.

It's a light hearted FF anyway, either that or the script writers didn't put too much emphasis on the secondary characters. The point is, Amarant is extremely weak compared to a lot of other characters in the game. It was just as if they plopped him in there just to have an additional character, Beatrix would have made more sense as another character outside of the fact I guess they felt she was overpowered or because she shared the same abilities as Steiner/Eiko/Garnet.

Beatrix <3

Chill and get back to the topic.

You can see the characters plot in their quotes:

Zidane: "You don't need a reason to help people."

- His plot is based around helping the princess out of the goodness of his heart.

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Vivi: "How do you prove that you exist ... ? Maybe we don't exist ... "

- His plot is based around wrestling with his identity.

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Steiner: "Having sworn fealty, must I spend my life in servitude?"

- His plot is based around following orders vs doing the right thing.

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Garnet: "Someday I will be queen, but I will always be myself."

- Her plot is based around her not making the same mistakes as Brahne.

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Freya: "To be forgotten is worse than death."

- Her plot is based around losing her home and her husband.

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Amarant: "The only dependable thing about the future is uncertainty."

- His plot is about him learning about friendship

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Quina: "I do what I want! You have problem?!"

- Comic relief.

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Eiko: "I don't wanna be alone anymore ... "

- Her plot is about her learning that she's not the last summoner.

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She'd make sense if she took Quina's spot yeah. Other than that, not really.

Yeah I know his plot Flion, I'm just saying it is extremely weak. Quina's is acceptable because of being comic relief but really..? He was lonely and wanted to join them just to make friends? Beatrix had a much stronger involvement in all of this and it sucks they didn't add her as a main character :/ (even though I always sharked her in!)

hmm u really need to skillchain on level 1 hares?
u lost!

You make up plot points about Freya but forget about explained plot points to do with Amarant. I'm beginning to get the feeling that you're a bit of a Freya fanboy.

And I'm done, feel free to hate on Amarant lol. Most people do anyway, I'll still use him and enjoy his plot/battle style

Nah I rarely ever used her in my team lol. What plot points am I making up? The reason she continued staying with the team was because of the fight against Kuja after all she had lost, that's the truth.

Edit: done too... not like there was much to this topic anyway, seemed like trollbait or a trap.

yall nerdin' it up hardcore now idunno wtf is going on anymore

One final thing:

Amarant was just a big homage to shadow from VI anyway, I always saw him as an anti Zidane, and a way to bolster his story.

Could have been far worse if we were discussing about FFVIII!

Hisssssssssssssssssssssssss...

Echo drops yo (I'm sure the stupidity of your reply was already adressed, but 8 pages is a lot to look through when you're lazy like me)

I'm pretty sure a Kraken club Jishnu's RNG/SAM would have to be high up there if the wall doesn't attack back. Spamming TP like crazy, and half the time you'll also make a Light skillchain to follow. Add 2 Barrages, and EES... I would have to say this would probably be at least in the top 5.