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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-06-10 13:15:21
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Alright this is the situation. every job in game no subjobs no outside buffs of any kind but your own. 5 minutes to prepare and 5 minutes to fight a single mob. (No day bonus no weather bonus)

Neutral mob no weaknesses or exploits and no tanking needed, just pure dding. So out of every job in the game using the best gear possible what do you think would come out as the top 5 dds?

I'm guessing Sam for 1. hello self skillchains and 3 light chains right when we start.

War and sch tied for second. those strategms with dmg boost, casting time mp down + cost down, spamming for crazy dmg. and war psht enough said lol

well SCH isnt really a DD. its more of a caster job... even though im all about SCH <3
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By Phoenix.Kaeoni 2011-06-10 13:17:02
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Blm done deal baby.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-10 13:17:27
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what is this.... I don't even...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-10 13:17:33
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Blue mage.
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By Shiva.Galbir 2011-06-10 13:17:57
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It would depend on the level of the mob. This is just like back at the 75 cap if the mob had a ton of def a sam would out parse a war if the def was lower then the war would win. Given no subjob and assuming it's a higher level mob I'm going to say 1 rdm(Chainspell), 2 drk(With the recent update and the fact they were already zerg kings this is obvious), 3 sam, 4 war, 5 blm.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-10 13:18:22
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Assuming no high level mobs since you saying can spam w/o without tanking, BLU has a ton of spells they can spam to dish out a lot of dmg. No DD will compete with BLU w/o buffs (brd etc).
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-10 13:21:24
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Are you trolling?
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-06-10 13:22:58
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Paladin hands down. Best dd evah.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-06-10 13:25:19
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Assuming no high level mobs since you saying can spam w/o without tanking, BLU has a ton of spells they can spam to dish out a lot of dmg. No DD will compete with BLU w/o buffs (brd etc).

if ur including mage classes into the DD ranks then SCH will outdo BLM. (we all know blm wins inside abyssea) outside though, no refresh2, no ballad,etc... BLM still has mp issues outside abbysea. also SCH has the ability to self skillchain and magic burst. while still having a crapton of MP left over.

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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-10 13:28:30
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I didn't say BLM I said BLU...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-10 13:29:23
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Also, take into account what OP said. No buffs of any kind except your own, this means BLU has adequeate defensive buffs with occultation/cocoon and also access to haste and self refresh. BLU will wipe the floor with anyone.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-06-10 13:30:07
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
I didn't say BLM I said BLU...

oh no i agree 100% with u on BLU being a top notch DD without buffs. Goblin Rush is just fantastic. I was talking about this other dude earlier in the thread.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-10 13:30:13
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Also, take into account what OP said. No buffs of any kind except your own, this means BLU has adequeate defensive buffs with occultation/cocoon and also access to haste and self refresh. BLU will wipe the floor with anyone.

You're like the biggest fanboy ever. You're not actually an immortal draylo.
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By Phoenix.Probester 2011-06-10 13:31:49
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I'm gonna have to agree with draylo on this one blu has the ability to have self buffs only and manage multiple different scenarios. I mean come on have you seen draylos work?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-06-10 13:32:11
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War, Sam, Mnk, Blu, Drg (with Ryu).

No particular order there. Assuming empyreans on all DDs (cept drg).
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-06-10 13:34:36
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The top 5 DD of all time:

Also, @ Draylo: Can you at least word the same post, 1000 times, differently? It'd be nice for a change of pace.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-10 13:35:40
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blu...seriously? even with just 26% gear haste... drk + k club + blood weapon + soul eater says hi.....
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By Fairy.Spence 2011-06-10 13:36:15
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Phoenix.Probester said:
I'm gonna have to agree with draylo on this one blu has the ability to have self buffs only and manage multiple different scenarios. I mean come on have you seen draylos work?

There's only one scenario. Do damage.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-06-10 13:36:24
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BRD with Twastar also says hello lol
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By Carbuncle.Ianpyst 2011-06-10 13:38:47
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Leviathan.Draylo said:
Blue mage.

This^
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-10 13:40:59
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in a 5m span there is no way a blu is gonna match k club drk....once blu runs out of mp its pretty much over lol... ya you get mad refresh gears....guess what you also lose dps putting those gears on lol
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By Shiva.Galbir 2011-06-10 13:41:35
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
in a 5m span there is no way a blu is gonna match k club drk
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-10 13:42:01
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BLU, DRK, DNC, SAM, and MNK or WAR would be my guesses for melee DD, in no particular order. BLM, SCH, and RDM would certainly be on the list in a non-buffed situation though.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-10 13:42:01
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This mob has souleater resistance.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2011-06-10 13:45:34
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Fairy.Spence said:
Phoenix.Probester said:
I'm gonna have to agree with draylo on this one blu has the ability to have self buffs only and manage multiple different scenarios. I mean come on have you seen draylos work?
There's only one scenario. Do damage.

You guys are bringing up defensive buffs but like Spence has pointed out the scenario is who can deal most damage, not defend for longest.

Leviathan.Draylo said:
Blue mage.

I would have to agree with this.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-10 13:45:38
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the situation said no resistences... good one though Draylo lol....blu is still not gonna win lol
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-06-10 13:47:24
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No one has mentioned HF with Vere aftermath? I would think that would parse rather well up there including Impetus. BLU will run out of MP in 1 minute and have to just sit and swing their swords... Being a career rdm, idk how Chainspell would parse. You get like 8~12 Blizzard IV's in a 1 minute span and you're sorta just done.

RDM is the premature ejaculation job in Vana'diel =/ It's alot of build-up for a 1 minute show.

Edit: Are we assuming the thing will attack us back....or are we going with it's a wall with inf. HP, who can knock the most of it down?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-10 13:50:31
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rdm can convert and last another 40s or so nuking no? lol... still not gonna beat the ole k club drk lol.....I thought this had been established for years already, considering this is how most stuff got done back in the day (though i realize those were with haste and/or march...kinda not even the point at this point considering the sheer amount of swings with souleaters dmg bonus)
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